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botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

ditty bout my clitty posted:

A quick way to tell if war of the chosen is installed correctly? It's been three in game weeks and I've yet to see anything I haven't before.

you started the wrong game. toggle WotC on the pre-game screen, the thing that pops up when you click "play" on steam.

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Apple2o
Mar 25, 2009

by Pragmatica

(and can't post for 9 years!)

Dark event where all the enemies ignore overwatch?! :psyboom:

Also, never leave your grappling guy up on a ledge by himself where nobody can reach him vs the assassin. Just figured that out on ironman :ughh:

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Well there goes my first campaign. Assassin showed up on the blacksite and murdered me. Turns out the claymore isn't a mine!

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Hats Wouldnt Fly posted:

I kind of regret preordering this. It's so good, they've made so many great changes, but until a couple quality of life mods update actually playing it is insanely frustrating.

Why the hell isn't Gotcha a baseline UI piece? C'mon Jake.


Look at the launcher more carefully. You launched the base game.

Aaaaah poo poo. Thank you!

Dr. Carwash
Sep 16, 2006

Senpai...
If you activate the tutorial do you not get the new gatecrasher?

Dervyn
Feb 16, 2014
Apparently a skulljack will prevent one's soldier from going into conceal on a rescue mission. Had the 'High Alert' dark event running had to use conceal from the start. My specialist's conceal icon was grey out and the tooltip said something along the lines of 'unable to because soldier is carrying mission objective'.

Profanity
Aug 26, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Hats Wouldnt Fly posted:

Why the hell isn't Gotcha a baseline UI piece? C'mon Jake.

Left Alt. It's not as fully functional as Gotcha, but it works.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Profanity posted:

Left Alt. It's not as fully functional as Gotcha, but it works.

Be careful with it though. It's not always accurate.

quote:

GTS does not benefit from being adjacent to a workshop. You want facilities that can slot in engineers for that.

I was rushing Squad Size 1, but I figured if I upgraded the power and comms then it wouldn't matter, that'd be enough gremlins.

I'm not going to have gremlins for a while. :stare:

Has anyone tried the lab out to see how useful it is now?

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

So does the Chosen spawn every time you play a mission in their area? Because having to fight then every mission is going to get old fast.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

BigRed0427 posted:

So does the Chosen spawn every time you play a mission in their area? Because having to fight then every mission is going to get old fast.

No, it's just a chance to fight them.

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

When your chosen is weak to explosives and her first move is to hide behind a car 👌

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

I ended up with the assassin being weak to close-range attacks and my sniper being weak to being shot at from above.

It's uh. Not great.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

My chosen assassin gains 3 armor every time you miss her.

I sure do miss a lot of 80%+ now. :v:

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Ok, so im going a Psionic Transmitter mission and I think i missed what Central said. How do I delay the timer? It says network disconnect.

Maluco Marinero
Jan 18, 2001

Damn that's a
fine elephant.

BigRed0427 posted:

Ok, so im going a Psionic Transmitter mission and I think i missed what Central said. How do I delay the timer? It says network disconnect.

There are little nodes you can shoot along the way which give you an extra turn.

Also this expansion is great so far. Like, not enough so that I never want to work on Guerrilla War, but there's so much extra stuff in here to use now to flesh out the world, and the performance improvements are very welcome indeed.

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

The Psionic Transmitter missions can be pretty brutal. The Lost and Chosen showed up during my last one and those mini-transmitters all spawned in the least loving convenient places possible.

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

Profanity posted:

Left Alt. It's not as fully functional as Gotcha, but it works.

That's one QoL mod I never got nor understood the need for. Knowing when the shot is flanking is pretty trivial, the rules are clear as is the adjacent cover to the target.

Hats Wouldnt Fly
Feb 9, 2010

.
Redfont is my hero.

Serephina posted:

That's one QoL mod I never got nor understood the need for. Knowing when the shot is flanking is pretty trivial, the rules are clear as is the adjacent cover to the target.

It puts a little icon over your path if it moves through enemy overwatch, or if your move will activate an enemy you can see. It saves you having to manually check every tile in between.

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

RBA Starblade posted:

My chosen assassin gains 3 armor every time you miss her.

I sure do miss a lot of 80%+ now. :v:

Is that a real thing? That seems way too OP

Profanity
Aug 26, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Hats Wouldnt Fly posted:

It puts a little icon over your path if it moves through enemy overwatch, or if your move will activate an enemy you can see. It saves you having to manually check every tile in between.

Yeah these are the kind of functions they didn't implement in-game, so I'm hoping Gotcha gets updated too. The Left Alt function is really ugly too, Gotcha is way smarter with its health plate integration.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

CharlestonJew posted:

Is that a real thing? That seems way too OP

She also has Shadowstep, to make my life extra terrible.

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
That'd actually be really smart difficulty progression if the 'random' pros/con of Chosen where picked from a pool that got progressively nastier as you get closer to legendary.

lalaland
Nov 8, 2012
Cool we get 6 free games as an apology from gmg

Incy
May 30, 2006
for other Out

RBA Starblade posted:

She also has Shadowstep, to make my life extra terrible.

Mine has that, and the one that causes you to lose will every time they attack (3%?). Oh, and is vulnerable to close range attacks. Not quite sure how to deal with it, honestly.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

lalaland posted:

Cool we get 6 free games as an apology from gmg

Wait, what happened?

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Incy posted:

Mine has that, and the one that causes you to lose will every time they attack (3%?). Oh, and is vulnerable to close range attacks. Not quite sure how to deal with it, honestly.

Rangers, Templars and just get in her grill. Any attack within 3 tiles does +3 damage so a pistol sharpshooter can do some damage if you run them into her face and unload lightning hands and a normal shot.

Also Templars are affected by Muton counter, found that out last night:shepicide:

Zore fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Aug 30, 2017

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I feel like for the first time I actually really need concealment rangers AND blademaster rangers. Too bad for me my only ranger blew up in a freak flamethrower accident. :haw:

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Lore Question: THe Advent troops use to be human or are they creations of the Elders?

MadJackMcJack
Jun 10, 2009
Holy crap! I just had a supply raid with a sitrep called "Location Scout", which removed the fog of war so I could see everything! The mission became slightly trivial once I could snipe enemy groups from miles away.

Incy
May 30, 2006
for other Out

Zore posted:

Rangers, Templars and just get in her grill. Any attack within 3 tiles does +3 damage so a pistol sharpshooter can do some damage if you run them into her face and unload lightning hands and a normal shot.

Also Templars are affected by Muton counter, found that out last night:shepicide:

Yeah, it's not impossible, I just don't ever feel as though I'm really exploiting the weaknesses and instead just pay the will tax then hunt them down inefficiently (they are also vulnerable to reapers so I can at least make use of that).

I've not triggered the others so hopefully they will be a bit more interesting.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

BigRed0427 posted:

Lore Question: THe Advent troops use to be human or are they creations of the Elders?

Modified human stock. Like how most of the aliens have integrated human DNA

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Alkydere posted:

Seriously it blows me away how good this DLC is:
  • Engine improvements so impressive I'm still not convinced they're not black magic
  • New units and toys to play with
  • New enemies to fight that are actually creative and interesting
  • New and intelligent mechanics to mix things up
  • An absolute boatload of new lines and chatter that better fleshes out the world.
  • Even more efforts to mix up the game with random events so that now to campaigns are quite the same.



Yeah it used to take 2+ minutes for me to load a mission up and now it starts in second on my toaster.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I left my game off on a supply raid but didn't start it. Didn't they change how they work or something?

BigRed0427 posted:

Lore Question: THe Advent troops use to be human or are they creations of the Elders?

They distill down a stock of human slurry then toss in some fresh sectoid herbs and spices and set it to simmer for a few months. :v:

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

RBA Starblade posted:

I left my game off on a supply raid but didn't start it. Didn't they change how they work or something?


They distill down a stock of human slurry then toss in some fresh sectoid herbs and spices and set it to simmer for a few months. :v:

They added a new version of supply raids but the old one is in rotation still too. In general they added a lot of new variants for old mission types.

Hobo on Fire
Dec 4, 2008

BigRed0427 posted:

Wait, what happened?

GMG sent an "XCOM Apology Pack" since they didn't get the codes out before the expansion went live. Steam codes for 6 games that probably aren't selling anyway.

But hey, maybe you know someone who is just itching for a copy of Corporate Lifestyle Simulator?

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
Also a 10% off voucher that I think is usable for any game "except selected titles" and doesn't expire for a month. All in all, not a bad deal for getting the expansion a few hours late.

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!
There's... a lot going on in the campaign map now... :stare:


Also, there really needs to be a 'stop, drop, and roll' action that consumes your turn but puts out fire. :negative:

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

do us non-expanjsion-owners get the performance improvements because I really feel like we should

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Fintilgin posted:

There's... a lot going on in the campaign map now... :stare:


Also, there really needs to be a 'stop, drop, and roll' action that consumes your turn but puts out fire. :negative:

It's called hunker down.

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Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

do us non-expanjsion-owners get the performance improvements because I really feel like we should

No

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