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Antioch
Apr 18, 2003

Methanar posted:

I actually kind of miss Edmonton. I liked taking late night drives on Groat Road and along the river

Man, you're missing out. The Henday is finished, it takes like 45 minutes to circle the city. It's the best night drive think about poo poo road I have ever been on.

Edit: oh my god what an embarassing page snipe. Visit Edmonton! It's nice almost 4 whole weeks a year! We have a road that's a circle (mostly)!

Antioch fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Aug 30, 2017

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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Adjectivist Philosophy posted:

Greatest Ride of All Time

:vince:

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Vulture Culture posted:

Maybe my impressions are wrong, but to me, contract-to-hire is an organizational smell that suggests the company is unable to terminate underperformers once they hire them.

It can be and I see how it would be undesirable to want to work at place that's just treating its problems opposed to curing them. It's also used a way to not give out full-time benefits - see permatemps.

On the other hand, it sometimes can work out in your favor with a higher overall hourly rate.

What I'm saying is it can be a bad deal but don't completely just write these jobs off. Employees do get burned but so have plenty of managers.

Zapf Dingbat
Jan 9, 2001


We offer VoIP and cloud services to medical businesses that are not HIPAA compliant. How hosed are we?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Probably not hosed unless you mean the potential loss of business, or you're claiming about compliance that you don't have. It's up to the organisation that needs to adhere to regulations to ensure that they do things properly.

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf
Groat sounds like a word Steve Brule would use, ya dingus

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Where you been? John o' Groats?

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Tailored Sauce posted:

Groat sounds like a word Steve Brule would use, ya dingus
Awesome show, groat job!

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Zapf Dingbat posted:

We offer VoIP and cloud services to medical businesses that are not HIPAA compliant. How hosed are we?

Ensure your cloud services are HIPAA compliant on your end. Other than that, just don't touch the poop. You probably shouldn't even know that they're not HIPAA compliant if you really want your asses covered.

How do you know without looking at their confidential information, and do you have authorized access to that data?

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

The saga continues and it is loving beautiful...

Since this individual was placed on "some type of leave" our CIO realized that we don't have a proper protocol in place for resetting passwords on devices once an IT staff member leaves or is terminated.
So... he gave the responsibility to our poor network engineer who is already overloaded with several concurrent projects (that are all gonna get ripped out in a few weeks when we begin building renovations).

Our Network Engineer went dutifully about creating new passwords for everything.
He typed them all up in notepad, didn't save it, changed the passwords and went home for the weekend. His computer rebooted because patches were set to install over the weekend.
We have a password manager (like last pass) but apparently that didn't save his changes either somehow.
So... now we don't have a way to get into almost anything and it's loving hilarious.

The saga ends.
Our unfortunate Sr SysEng was fired for going to the doctor.
We're about to renovate the entire building and can't have any downtime. Which means we have to move the entire server room, AND all of the utilities including all of our incoming phones, internet, and fiber to satellite locations.
So now not only are we short handed in actually doing this move, we've lost the one person who has the most intimate knowledge of our virtual environment right in the middle of the biggest project anyone here has undertaken.

Great job boss.

The best possible outcome of all this is that we actually manage to pull off the move and thereby justify that we do not need to fill his position, so we're permanently down a guy.

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
Sounds like an easy justification for a raise..

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





So he can get fired for going to the doctor?

gently caress that, time to start looking.

DONT TOUCH THE PC
Jul 15, 2001

You should try it, it's a real buzz.

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

The best possible outcome of all this is that we actually manage to pull off the move and thereby justify that we do not need to fill his position, so we're permanently down a guy.

Don't pull off the move and start looking for a new job.

Zapf Dingbat
Jan 9, 2001


Judge Schnoopy posted:

Ensure your cloud services are HIPAA compliant on your end. Other than that, just don't touch the poop. You probably shouldn't even know that they're not HIPAA compliant if you really want your asses covered.

How do you know without looking at their confidential information, and do you have authorized access to that data?

Wow, it was late when I wrote that post. What I meant was that our services are not HIPAA compliant and we sell it to medical companies. Most don't think to ask whether they are. I've seen some evidence that the service provider bears some liability along with the customer for HIPAA.

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe

IndustrialApe posted:

Don't pull off the move and start looking for a new job.

This!

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

The saga ends.
Our unfortunate Sr SysEng was fired for going to the doctor.
We're about to renovate the entire building and can't have any downtime. Which means we have to move the entire server room, AND all of the utilities including all of our incoming phones, internet, and fiber to satellite locations.
So now not only are we short handed in actually doing this move, we've lost the one person who has the most intimate knowledge of our virtual environment right in the middle of the biggest project anyone here has undertaken.

Great job boss.

The best possible outcome of all this is that we actually manage to pull off the move and thereby justify that we do not need to fill his position, so we're permanently down a guy.

Leave.

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016

Zapf Dingbat posted:

Wow, it was late when I wrote that post. What I meant was that our services are not HIPAA compliant and we sell it to medical companies. Most don't think to ask whether they are. I've seen some evidence that the service provider bears some liability along with the customer for HIPAA.

Is your company signing BAA's with the medical customers?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Counterpoint: I went to the doctor a half dozen times and was out for surgery for nearly a week in my first month of employment at my current gig.

Then got a raise and a bonus 3 months later.

i'm still paying for the surgery because it happened 3 days before my new insurance coverage started

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

The saga ends.
Our unfortunate Sr SysEng was fired for going to the doctor.
We're about to renovate the entire building and can't have any downtime. Which means we have to move the entire server room, AND all of the utilities including all of our incoming phones, internet, and fiber to satellite locations.
So now not only are we short handed in actually doing this move, we've lost the one person who has the most intimate knowledge of our virtual environment right in the middle of the biggest project anyone here has undertaken.

Great job boss.

The best possible outcome of all this is that we actually manage to pull off the move and thereby justify that we do not need to fill his position, so we're permanently down a guy.

:sever:

Zapf Dingbat
Jan 9, 2001


milk milk lemonade posted:

Is your company signing BAA's with the medical customers?

No.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

Our unfortunate Sr SysEng was fired for going to the doctor

Lmao move out of the third world

Necronomicon
Jan 18, 2004

Has anybody here heard of a program called Covenant Eyes? One of our sales dudes dropped off his laptop for a fix and mentioned offhand that his church requires that he use it. On cursory research, this looks like some kind of activity tracking software, but can this poo poo monitor keystrokes / mouse movement too?

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016

Well then they have bigger problems than not having HIPPA compliant cloud services.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

The saga ends.
Our unfortunate Sr SysEng was fired for going to the doctor.
We're about to renovate the entire building and can't have any downtime. Which means we have to move the entire server room, AND all of the utilities including all of our incoming phones, internet, and fiber to satellite locations.
So now not only are we short handed in actually doing this move, we've lost the one person who has the most intimate knowledge of our virtual environment right in the middle of the biggest project anyone here has undertaken.

Great job boss.

The best possible outcome of all this is that we actually manage to pull off the move and thereby justify that we do not need to fill his position, so we're permanently down a guy.

If you do this right, your old SysEng is gonna get a new boat.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

CLAM DOWN posted:

Lmao move out of the third world

Not emptyquoting

Zapf Dingbat
Jan 9, 2001


milk milk lemonade posted:

Well then they have bigger problems than not having HIPPA compliant cloud services.

So both us and the customer would be in the poo poo for not doing this basic step?

I'm very low at this company but I keep bringing these concerns up, but I'm no expert, and I wish they would talk to someone who knows about these kinds of things. And here I am asking a dead gay comedy forum for help... that's where I am at this point.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


Necronomicon posted:

Has anybody here heard of a program called Covenant Eyes? One of our sales dudes dropped off his laptop for a fix and mentioned offhand that his church requires that he use it. On cursory research, this looks like some kind of activity tracking software, but can this poo poo monitor keystrokes / mouse movement too?

Its supposedly just a web-filter, but I saw it cause all ~kinds~ of weird issues at my old job on peoples PC's. I wouldn't put it past that shitheap to be a keylogger, etc.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

Our unfortunate Sr SysEng was fired for going to the doctor.
Boss: "If he goes to the doctor he might get a legitimate doctor's note for time off that requires us to pay for sick time. Better fire him preemptively."

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Zapf Dingbat posted:

So both us and the customer would be in the poo poo for not doing this basic step?

I'm very low at this company but I keep bringing these concerns up, but I'm no expert, and I wish they would talk to someone who knows about these kinds of things. And here I am asking a dead gay comedy forum for help... that's where I am at this point.

I don't know this level of details with HIPAA but if I ran a cloud company, I would be sure not to take on any medical data (or sign contracts with medical clients) if I knew the system wasn't compliant.

Ultimately it's the hospital's responsibility to know what data they are putting where. If they sign a deal with you to store employee review files and end up putting medical history of patients on there, that's on them for using non-compliant storage. If they signed a deal with you to store medical data but nobody asked about HIPAA, that's still on them, but also on your company to know better.

I don't think HIPAA is taken lightly as to who's at fault, but who knowingly has breachable data.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



CLAM DOWN posted:

Lmao move out of the third world

Pretty sure that's illegal even here. And since he's a senior sys admin he probably has the money for a lawyer. Civil suits only have to be concluded as really likely rather than beyond a reasonable doubt. The coincidence of being put on leave the day of his appointment is probably going to be enough.

Seriously Charlie, :sever:

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

Our unfortunate Sr SysEng was fired for going to the doctor.

But did he get his pension?

Did he change his phone number? You need to have drinks with this guy. Don't do knowledge transfer, just drink. Also remind him to setup a consulting LLC.

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Pretty sure that's illegal even here. And since he's a senior sys admin he probably has the money for a lawyer. Civil suits only have to be concluded as really likely rather than beyond a reasonable doubt. The coincidence of being put on leave the day of his appointment is probably going to be enough.

It's highly dependent on way more factors than we can know here, but on the surface it's not illegal to fire someone because you want to fire them. Taking a sick day is not a protected class. Now if he put in for FMLA time that would be different. He can almost certainly get unemployment.

H110Hawk fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Aug 30, 2017

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Zapf Dingbat posted:

So both us and the customer would be in the poo poo for not doing this basic step?

I'm very low at this company but I keep bringing these concerns up, but I'm no expert, and I wish they would talk to someone who knows about these kinds of things. And here I am asking a dead gay comedy forum for help... that's where I am at this point.

I can't see how it's your (employers) problem if people buy a service that is unsuitable for their requirements, when you've made no claims regarding its suitability. You're not claiming that your product is suitable for use in regulated industries but all the data is stored on USB disks stored in an alley.

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
iirc everyone involved with handling and/or storing medical data must be HIPAA compliant - even MSPs otherwise they COULD be held liable if someone's records become compromised and they decide to sue.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Necronomicon posted:

Has anybody here heard of a program called Covenant Eyes? One of our sales dudes dropped off his laptop for a fix and mentioned offhand that his church requires that he use it. On cursory research, this looks like some kind of activity tracking software, but can this poo poo monitor keystrokes / mouse movement too?


Siochain posted:

Its supposedly just a web-filter, but I saw it cause all ~kinds~ of weird issues at my old job on peoples PC's. I wouldn't put it past that shitheap to be a keylogger, etc.

Not just a web filter, it sends logs to designated people because it's so you don't fall victim to the perils of internet pornography. I wouldn't allow it on a company machine.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

Methanar posted:

It's a nice road, okay?

Yeah, until they drop a bridge on it.

(Literally. This actually happened. Construction team was pretty embarrassed about it.)

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Siochain posted:

Its supposedly just a web-filter, but I saw it cause all ~kinds~ of weird issues at my old job on peoples PC's. I wouldn't put it past that shitheap to be a keylogger, etc.

I wouldn't allow it on a corporate laptop either citing something something NDA something something Trade Secrets. Talk to Legal, have them make the policy decision.

It claims not to be a keylogger, for what it's worth. Also Jesus Christ $11/month.

http://www.covenanteyes.com/support-articles/what-does-covenant-eyes-monitor/

Necronomicon
Jan 18, 2004

H110Hawk posted:

I wouldn't allow it on a corporate laptop either citing something something NDA something something Trade Secrets. Talk to Legal, have them make the policy decision.

It claims not to be a keylogger, for what it's worth. Also Jesus Christ $11/month.

http://www.covenanteyes.com/support-articles/what-does-covenant-eyes-monitor/

We have no "Legal" to talk to and I'm the lone IT guy (80 person company) but ho-lee poo poo I'm getting this scrubbed off the dude's laptop asap. Hopefully once his internet shame nanny is gone he won't start cruising porn at work.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Necronomicon posted:

We have no "Legal" to talk to and I'm the lone IT guy (80 person company) but ho-lee poo poo I'm getting this scrubbed off the dude's laptop asap. Hopefully once his internet shame nanny is gone he won't start cruising porn at work.

I would at least talk to your direct supervisor about this and document the reasons you are doing it. Make sure you never, ever, mention religion. It's all AUP based, which you had everyone sign right? 80 people has a lawyer somewhere, it may just be outside counsel. If you haven't had everyone sign some semblance of a policy it's time to cobble one together. This includes something about not using work equipment for personal use and not sending operational data to unapproved vendors. That software is personal use and sending operational data (including potential trade secrets) to an unapproved vendor.

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016

Thom and the Heads posted:

iirc everyone involved with handling and/or storing medical data must be HIPAA compliant - even MSPs otherwise they COULD be held liable if someone's records become compromised and they decide to sue.

The onus is almost 100% on the organization that owns the data, and without so much as a BAA they aren't compliant in the first place.

People make a way bigger deal about HIPPA than it is in practice. I have clients that have literally had data breaches and lost millions of patient records and all they had to do was become compliant. No fines, lawsuits, etc.

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Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Necronomicon posted:

Has anybody here heard of a program called Covenant Eyes? One of our sales dudes dropped off his laptop for a fix and mentioned offhand that his church requires that he use it. On cursory research, this looks like some kind of activity tracking software, but can this poo poo monitor keystrokes / mouse movement too?

I don't even know where I would start in a conversation like this. Is this a cult church or something?

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