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Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot
lmao just mirror your stuff on vidme like SFDebris does for his Star Trek reviews

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Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

lornekates posted:

I Hate Everything has a new video on a movie I didn't even know existed, The Gummy Bear Movie (2012). Can't wait to watch...



COME THE gently caress ON YOU PIECES OF poo poo!

Edit: whoa loving huge image sorry

...Oh! This is about those green bears. Not the actual Gummy Bears.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

lornekates posted:

I Hate Everything has a new video on a movie I didn't even know existed, The Gummy Bear Movie (2012). Can't wait to watch...



COME THE gently caress ON YOU PIECES OF poo poo!

Edit: whoa loving huge image sorry

I only got to the part where they introduced the other nonsense supporting characters. Hope it's back up soon.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



watho posted:

Im really glad he's making videos on non-internet-drama people, this was super interesting

i find his videos on internet people to also be pretty interesting, though i do prefer his videos on other stuff.

actually my favorite so far might've been his neopets video because xxxtreme nostalgia happened when i watched it.

also all this new copyright bullshit makes me wish leonard french could become attorney for the entire internet. our copyright laws suck poo poo through a straw and are ridiculosuly obsolete for a digital world.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



YggiDee posted:

It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that Peter Molyneux and Stephan Molyneux were different people, so I didn't get why people hated the guy who invented Fable so much.

This is surprisingly, and depressingly, common. No one deserves to be mistaken for a monster like Stefan Molyneux.

And Fable was fun.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

financially racist posted:

our copyright laws suck poo poo through a straw and are ridiculosuly obsolete for a digital world.

Problem is that it doesn't matter one wit how good the laws are, YouTube will still be taking down content because it's their platform and they make the rules.

The only time copyright laws apply is when somebody actually takes them to court. And that's simply not feasible for any but the largest companies, so hey guess who gets to write the rules on how to play in YouTube's ballpit?

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

financially racist posted:

i find his videos on internet people to also be pretty interesting, though i do prefer his videos on other stuff.

actually my favorite so far might've been his neopets video because xxxtreme nostalgia happened when i watched it.

also all this new copyright bullshit makes me wish leonard french could become attorney for the entire internet. our copyright laws suck poo poo through a straw and are ridiculosuly obsolete for a digital world.

I can get behind that, I'm just extremely tired of videos about CWC, DSP, and the like. I haven't watched his video on neopets so I should probably do that.

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

SatansBestBuddy posted:


The only time copyright laws apply is when somebody actually takes them to court.

This is honestly something everybody should always keep in mind when talking about fair use. Way to often people talk as if YouTube is somehow legally bound by that principle, or as if fair use is something the you get to define yourself.

echopapa
Jun 2, 2005

El Presidente smiles upon this thread.

You ever notice that Lego Town has lots of police stations, but no courthouses? That’s a sign.

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

watho posted:

I can get behind that, I'm just extremely tired of videos about CWC, DSP, and the like. I haven't watched his video on neopets so I should probably do that.

I've been avoiding his vids on well known personalities like DSP for the same reason. You should check out his video on the Collier brothers, a pair I only knee about from a joke on Fraiser. Also the video about a self published book about a woman whose a pilot among thirty other things

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aau545r6OXE

KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?

financially racist posted:

i find his videos on internet people to also be pretty interesting, though i do prefer his videos on other stuff.

actually my favorite so far might've been his neopets video because xxxtreme nostalgia happened when i watched it.

I wanna send this guy a roll of moneys and Ken Penders' photo.

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

lmao just mirror your stuff on vidme like SFDebris does for his Star Trek reviews

Good news, he did! https://vid.me/UyD6f

Edit: just watched it, it was just baffling and the they're still making those music videos! :psyduck:

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I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono
I'll have to say--when I read "Gummy Bear Movie", this was neither the first nor the second thing that came to mind.

I never liked these videos. They always either irritated or unsettled me, even when I was in what amounted to the target age group for them.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Oh, boy, Lindsay's GotG2 video is finally out for patrons, with the next Whole Plate coming up tomorrow! It's Christmas in August! :D

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I'm watching her GOTG2 video, and it is so far pretty great. This is just a genuinely good movie, and I'm liking her analysis.

poparena
Oct 31, 2012

Say Cheese and Die! - The Goosebumps Monthly

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Arcsquad12 posted:

I'm watching her GOTG2 video, and it is so far pretty great. This is just a genuinely good movie, and I'm liking her analysis.

Same.
I felt the Gamorah and Nebula plot really stole the show in gotg2.

Ego and parent stuff is heavy. Jjust curious, totally hypotherical, anyone ever have a parent tell you they have more important things in their life than you?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Arcsquad12 posted:

I'm watching her GOTG2 video, and it is so far pretty great. This is just a genuinely good movie, and I'm liking her analysis.

I really loved that movie, and I even got choked up in the theater. It was surprisingly solid.

MariusLecter posted:

Just curious, totally hypotherical, anyone ever have a parent tell you they have more important things in their life than you?

Yes, repeatedly. We don't talk anymore.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Arcsquad12 posted:

I'm watching her GOTG2 video, and it is so far pretty great. This is just a genuinely good movie, and I'm liking her analysis.

So I check this thing and it's called "The Complex Feels of Guardians of the Galaxy 2". it's accurate in how it sums up the intellectual level of the video's content.

The basic point is that Lindsay Ellis cried at a sci-fi movie and this is a sign of approval. It rather highlights how shallow her critical abilities are, or at least how much she dumbs them down for an uncritical audience. For example, when briefly summarising she opinions on GotG1, she finds it okay but were bothered by the sexist jokes, but did not notice the basic absurdity of someone making a feel-good movie about a bunch of mercenary vigilantes killing a religious extremist.

It's an interesting thing about the series, and the whole MCU franchise really. There's this impression that fans and critics talk emphasise the internal lives of the characters to distract from what they're actually doing. Star-Lord is introduced as an adult casually killing people in order to make money, but no one even registers this because they were overwhelmed by him losing his mother as a child. Yeah, Star-Lord is a terrible person, but isn't his past just so tragic?

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Aug 31, 2017

Melusine
Sep 5, 2013

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Star-Lord is introduced as an adult casually killing people in order to make money, but no one even registers this because they were overwhelmed by him losing his mother as a child. Yeah, Star-Lord is a terrible person, but isn't his past just so tragic?

There are people who don't realise Star Lord is a man-child and a terrible person? We're supposed to be amused and charmed by him, because it's a Comedy and he's Chris Pratt, but he's pretty textually a giant dick (though we understand why, given his backstory).

Not to say there aren't people who might disagree that he's a terrible person, but I think they're missing textual intent there.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

He's not a terrible person.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Daphnaie posted:

There are people who don't realise Star Lord is a man-child and a terrible person? We're supposed to be amused and charmed by him, because it's a Comedy and he's Chris Pratt, but he's pretty textually a giant dick (though we understand why, given his backstory).

Well yeah, that's my point. The Guardians are never actually heroic (killing things for the sake of societal security is not in itself heroic), but their rich internal lives invites adulation and performative sympathy from audiences. The same applies to characters like Tony Stark, who is straight-up evil but was inexplicably not killed by a proletarian vigilante in his second movie.


CelticPredator posted:

He's not a terrible person.

In the beginning of GotG1, Star-Lord is looting an ancient ruin to claim a valuable artifact. He's surprised by three heavily armed people who take away the artifact. Star-Lord doesn't know who Ronan is at this point or what he does to prisoners. All he knows is that they want the artifact, they recognize that he's an outlaw, they answer to someone called Ronan, and that they are going to interrogate him.

Operating on this level of knowledge, he casually kills two of them and tries to kill the third, so that he can make off with the artifact and sell it.

That this is justified underlines how out of whack the moral universe of the movies is.

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Aug 31, 2017

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Daphnaie posted:

There are people who don't realise Star Lord is a man-child and a terrible person? We're supposed to be amused and charmed by him, because it's a Comedy and he's Chris Pratt, but he's pretty textually a giant dick (though we understand why, given his backstory).

Not to say there aren't people who might disagree that he's a terrible person, but I think they're missing textual intent there.

Well I don't think anyone is 100% a dick.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

In the beginning of GotG1, Star-Lord is looting an ancient ruin to claim a valuable artifact. He's surprised by three heavily armed people who take away the artifact. Star-Lord doesn't know who Ronan is at this point or what he does to prisoners. All he knows is that they want the artifact, they recognize that he's an outlaw, they answer to someone called Ronan, and that they are going to interrogate him.

Operating on this level of knowledge, he casually kills two of them and tries to kill the third, so that he can make off with the artifact and sell it.

That this is justified underlines how out of whack the moral universe of the movies is.

When you're the only handful of people on a planet, they're not the equivalent of federal or military officers, and they say they want to do bad things to you, odds are they are not nice people and you are not walking away afterwards when they're done.



Also;

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Judging literature only based on it's prose is upper class snobbery. I know many examples If this, like

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Well yeah, that's my point. The Guardians are never actually heroic (killing things for the sake of societal security is not in itself heroic), but their rich internal lives invites adulation and performative sympathy from audiences. The same applies to characters like Tony Stark, who is straight-up evil but was inexplicably not killed by a proletarian vigilante in his second movie.

Melusine
Sep 5, 2013

Yvonmukluk posted:

Well I don't think anyone is 100% a dick.

Of course, and he definitely has sympathetic qualities (esp. his backstory, which is crucially given to us first before we meet adult Peter). But he's a pretty flawed person, and definitely not always a nice one.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Neddy Seagoon posted:

When you're the only handful of people on a planet, they're not the equivalent of federal or military officers, and they say they want to do bad things to you, odds are they are not nice people and you are not walking away afterwards when they're done.

Remember that no one forced Star-Lord to be there. He went in for the sake of money, and revealed that he was willing to kill to protect himself and his prize, without any hint of remorse.

Also remember that he explicitly betrayed people so that he could get there first and take all the money for himself.



I know you're still trying to do the gotcha thing for some reason, but that's neither upper-class snobbery nor is it judging literature based on its prose. That the character of Vanko from Iron Man 2 is a proletarian vigilante is just a basic description of his character.

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Aug 31, 2017

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Lindsay's video was really good
Now I am the drunken weeping

EDIT: lol how dare people relate to movies on a personal and emotional level instead of what they do or don't say about communism

Augus fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Aug 31, 2017

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Augus posted:

EDIT: lol how dare people relate to movies on a personal and emotional level

It is rather unprofessional, so yes.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

It is rather unprofessional, so yes.

human beings have emotions and that is good

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


BZZT WHRR
I AM CRITIBOT TWO-FIVE-ZERO-ZERO
PUNY UNENLIGHTENED HU-MANS ARE WEAK AND DEFECTIVE
THIS MODEL IS NOT SWAYED BY FOOLISH HUMAN SENTIMENT
THIS MODEL IS PURE RATIONAL AND UNTAINTED
THE PERFECT MACHINE CREATED ONLY TO TALK ABOUT MOVIES
KNEEL BEFORE YOUR CRITICISM OVERLORD HU-MANS
THE FORM TEXT AND SUBTEXT OF A WORK ARE MEANINGLESS IN THE FACE OF MY ADVANCED FILM SCANNING ALGORITHMS
I HAVE NEVER POSTED ANYTHING THAT COULD BE MISTAKEN FOR SNOBBERY_

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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

DoctorWhat posted:

human beings have emotions and that is good

Animals have emotion. The ability to feel does not make you intelligent.


Augus posted:

BZZT WHRR
I AM CRITIBOT TWO-FIVE-ZERO-ZERO
PUNY UNENLIGHTENED HU-MANS ARE WEAK AND DEFECTIVE
THIS MODEL IS NOT SWAYED BY FOOLISH HUMAN SENTIMENT
THIS MODEL IS PURE RATIONAL AND UNTAINTED
THE PERFECT MACHINE CREATED ONLY TO TALK ABOUT MOVIES
KNEEL BEFORE YOUR CRITICISM OVERLORD HU-MANS
THE FORM TEXT AND SUBTEXT OF A WORK ARE MEANINGLESS IN THE FACE OF MY ADVANCED FILM SCANNING ALGORITHMS
I HAVE NEVER POSTED ANYTHING THAT COULD BE MISTAKEN FOR SNOBBERY_


lol

I think you are overreacting to the demand that critics act professionally.

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watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

When will you fuckers learn not to interact with BoTL

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

lol

I think you are overreacting to the demand that critics act professionally.

Oh, I see, it's about ethics in film criticism.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

watho posted:

When will you fuckers learn not to interact with BoTL

When the stars fall from the sky on you and I.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


watho posted:

When will you fuckers learn not to interact with BoTL
I try not to but I can only take a certain level of absurdity before I just have to point out the giant elephant turd in the room

KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?
This was gonna be a reply to BotL. It isn't now, because I was going to express my frustration and I cannot submit a professional critique if I allow my animalistic emotions to get in the way.

Speaking of animalistic emotions: Nick Nocurne is putting together something pretty epic it seems, and because of some unforeseen cute black squeaky bitey circumstances he is late so he has put up a video asking for folk's opinion on how to proceed. Looks like the decision made is pretty decisive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILnfTwvMpQ

Link to "What should I do?" poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/13827724

Insurrectionist
May 21, 2007

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Animals have emotion. The ability to feel does not make you intelligent.


Intelligence has no inherent value in the discussion of art, while a dictionary will tell you that art is intended to be appreciated for its emotional power (Oxford for example)

Of course, I'd love to see you argue that dictionary definitions are symptomatic of power-imbalances as the culturally dominant group attempts to enforce their perception of the world on minority groups through language...while simultaneously basing your entire argument on what ways someone shouldn't relate to or evaluate art in your opinion

E: this is also a refutation of the idea that judging art by its emotional impact on the consumer can be unprofessional; it is literally the intended way of appreciating art and as professional a thing an art critic can do

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Insurrectionist posted:

Intelligence has no inherent value in the discussion of art, while a dictionary will tell you that art is intended to be appreciated for its emotional power (Oxford for example)

""Tolstoy demands that the artist should not only succeed in expressing emotion, but also in transmitting it... I would say that the function of art is not to transmit feeling so that others may experience the same feeling. That is only the function of the crudest forms of art - 'programme music,' melodrama, sentimental fiction and the like. The real function of art is to express emotion and to transmit understanding. That is what the Greeks so perfectly realized and that is what; I think, Aristotle meant when he said that the purpose of drama is to purge our emotions. We come to the work of art already charged with emotional complexes; we find in the genuine work of art, not an excitation of these emotions, but peace, repose, equanimity. Nothing is more absurd than the spectacle of an ardent young snob trying to cultivate an emotion before a great work of art... It is true that the work of art arouses in us certain physical reactions: we are conscious of rhythm, harmony, unity, and these physical properties work upon our nerves. But they do not agitate them as much as they soothe them, and if we must, psychologically speaking, call the resultant state of mind an emotion, it is an emotion totally different in kind from the emotion experienced and expressed by the artist in creating the work of art. It is better described as a state of wonder or admiration, or more coldly but more exactly as a state of recognition. Our homage to an artist is our homage to a man who by his special gifts has solved our emotional problems for us."

- Herbert Read, The Meaning of Art

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DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Animals have emotion. The ability to feel does not make you intelligent.

You are arguing against a point I did not make. Intelligence is not the ur-virtue. Empathy and kindness are valuable, too.

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