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The Notorious ZSB posted:Dude has just lost all motivation or interest in the story now that the TV show has take on a life of it's own. I'm sure he wanted to finish it, but at this point it sounds like in every interview he just can't convince himself to write more of it with any consistency or drive. I'm no writer, but the general consensus seems to be if you want to finish stuff you gotta write it almost daily, and he by his own admission has been more interested in writing other stories and doing other projects (that aren't writing) than ASOFAI. some guy on the bus posted:Just look at GRRM's total state of confusion when Stephen King is talking to him about writing fast. That should tell you all you need to know about when TWOW is coming out. IIRC Stephen King wakes up every morning and writes 2 500 words, has breakfast and goes about his day, then writes another 2 500 in the afternoon (I wrote this post before coming across sgonb's video link) emanresu tnuocca posted:GRRM recently said he gets three chapters done in 6 months. And I don't know if he counts going back and rewriting existing chapters in that tally or not. A quick check of ADwD shows that it had... 72 chapters. That's 12 years to complete it, going by his numbers, when when we know it took 6, but I can see him slowing down as the ending gets nearer and nearer.
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If loving Shannara got a tv series, Wheel of Time can manage it. It will suck but so do the books. No doubt once GoT is over, someone will try and push forward Malazan or Prince of Nothing or something similarly edgy to fill the niche too.
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I think it's no secret that GRRM's writing speed dropped off completely when his assistant went off to co-write the Expanse novels.
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I think Wheel of Time could make a great series if they cut away all the chaff, really. But who knows.
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GaussianCopula posted:Preston Jacobs just announced he is writing a novel ... I have no interested in his writing, but maybe he can become a renowned novelist before GRRM dies and then finish the series for him. excited for jacobs to write a ulillilia-tier insane nonsense novel and somehow get it published in the mainstream on the strength of his built-in youtube audience
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VanSandman posted:Do you really believe Winds of Winter will ever come out? Yes. Posthumously.
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No foolin', I kinda still believe that Winds of Winter will be out - but it will still at least 2-3 years. Dream of Spring will remain a dream, alas.
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TeaJay posted:No foolin', I kinda still believe that Winds of Winter will be out - but it will still at least 2-3 years. Dream of Spring will remain a dream, alas. I thought Dream of Spring was a secret metaphor as well.
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skasion posted:If loving Shannara got a tv series, Wheel of Time can manage it. It will suck but so do the books. No doubt once GoT is over, someone will try and push forward Malazan or Prince of Nothing or something similarly edgy to fill the niche too. Malazan is wordier than GoT, makes less sense, and Erickson has all of Tolkien's worst anthropologist/historian tendencies. Prince of Nothing is way too loving weird for a mainstream adaptation, although I could see Showtime or somebody taking a crack at it. Just give the world the Black Company adaptation that it needs  .esperterra posted:Wheel of Time has been picked up by Sony iirc, and has been in pre production the last year while they shop around to networks. "Rafe Judkins is attached to write and executive produce. Judkins previously worked on shows such as ABC’s “Agents of SHIELD,” the Netflix series “Hemlock Grove,” and the NBC series “Chuck. An adaptation of “The Wheel of Time” novels has been in development in one form or another going back as far as 2000, but the projects mostly never made it past that stage. However, a pilot episode called “Winter Dragon” aired on FXX back in February 2015 starring Max Ryan and Billy Zane. It aired at 1:30 a.m. with no prior publicity." Oh boy. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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Mazalan was awful, I've never read a book before and had no idea what actually happened when I was done with it. I only read the first one, I was hoping it would all come together in the end but somehow it ended up making less sense.
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I need to track down a bootleg of that pirate, like who the gently caress was Billy Zane playing. e: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQE0-G_GeU Here we go. esperterra fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:"However, a pilot episode called “Winter Dragon” aired on FXX back in February 2015 starring Max Ryan and Billy Zane. It aired at 1:30 a.m. with no prior publicity." It's my understanding that this "pilot" was basically the laziest attempt to make something in order for the rights-holders to say they were using it, instead of it defaulting back to Jordan's widow and her being able to sell them to someone less shady.
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I guess it was made 100% without permission from Jordan's estate.
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Talking of authors dying, Terry Pratchett left instructions for his hard drive to be destroyed by a steamroller when he died and his friends did indeed do it Now that's classy
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Bran's actor says Bran = night king theory is dumb. http://www.avclub.com/game-of-thrones-star-shoots-down-your-bran-night-king-t-1798663803
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Prince of nothing first book was even worse than mazalan. Reading crappy starts to "epic" fantasy makes me appreciate GRRM even more. They aren't even in the same class.
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So, they wrote and filmed a scene where Sansa and Bran talked and he revealed Littelfinger's plan but didn't show it because of time and the director is a loving moron.
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JaySB posted:So, they wrote and filmed a scene where Sansa and Bran talked and he revealed Littelfinger's plan but didn't show it because of time and the director is a loving moron. Sincerely I don't know if that would have made everything less or even more dumb Their conflict was completely stupid from the very beginning. Sansa would have to be retarded to believe that Arya was plotting to became Lady of Winterfell in her place, just as Arya would have to be a complete moron to believe that Sansa was sincere on that letter. They needing Bran omniscience to realize their are being retarded maybe would make everything even more stupid Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Aug 31, 2017 |
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Aug 31, 2017 23:23
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yeah it's just as dumb with that scene.
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I think they could have tossed that scene in way earlier in the season and saved us the pain of all of that awful Sansa/Arya bullshit.
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Groovelord Neato posted:yeah it's just as dumb with that scene. At least without that scene it seems like Sansa figured LF out and then dealt with him. Her arc should be becoming good at all that palace intrigue stuff. The conflict was still idiotic and forced.
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Aryas bag of dollar store halloween masks was hysterical tho. All the winterfel poo poo this season was worth it just to hit that rock bottom
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JaySB posted:So, they wrote and filmed a scene where Sansa and Bran talked and he revealed Littelfinger's plan but didn't show it because of time and the director is a loving moron. Yea I think it would have taken the suprise out of the Littlefinger scene too though I'd already done that by reading all the spoilers which I really shouldn't do for next season
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In It For The Tank posted:Season 4 is definitely where the show plummeted off the edge of a cliff in terms of quality. It had its moments (the Purple Wedding, Tyrion's trial) but it also had Yara at the Dreadfort, KUNK KUNK KUNK, Jojen getting stabbed by a knife attached to a drinking bird, Olly, etc. Even good scenes like Arya and the Hound's road trip stopped being interesting after a while because basically every storyline was spinning its wheels until the finale. If KUNK KUNK KUNK is the scene I'm thinking of then you're wrong because that scene is cool and good and well acted by both peter dinklage and ((Jamie, I forget his name)).
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The Essos stuff post-Khal Drogo sucked in the books, too. You know from the beginning that dragons and Dothraki burning down Westeros is the real game and so everything with Dany which isn't that feels like sideshow filler, because it is. "Let's watch dragons grow up in real time, that sounds fun." Also it gets really old how every time someone on the internet complains that the books are taking too long to come out, there will ALWAYS be That Guy who quotes "GRRM is not your bitch." Imagined fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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I'm afraid to watch season 6 again because I remember liking it well enough and I found the north storyline very affecting, but I know if I watch it again I'll just be annoyed at how it goes to poo poo a season later.
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Imagined posted:The Essos stuff post-Khal Drogo sucked too. You know from the beginning that dragons and Dothraki burning down Westeros is the real game and so everything with Dany which isn't that feels like sideshow filler, because it is. "Let's watch dragons grow up in real time, that sounds fun." tbf, he isn't.
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No but I imagine his publisher wants to kill him.
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Max posted:No but I imagine his publisher wants to kill him. Eh, he's made them a buttload of money on what he's already done. He may not be my bitch but he is a bitch.
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I really hope that dumb theory doesn't end up being true. VanSandman posted:He may not be my bitch but he is a bitch. Acceptable imo esperterra fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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Imagined posted:The Essos stuff post-Khal Drogo sucked too. I like Fantasy not-Carthage because it was so loving weird, but the Slaver's Bay stuff is awful, yes.
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Looking at the rankings just reminds me of how the show used to be interesting character duos like Arya/Tywin, Jaime/Brienne and Tyrion/Cersei at its core and now the dialogue is borderline mediocre in a good scene.
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Shneak posted:Looking at the rankings just reminds me of how the show used to be interesting character duos like Arya/Tywin, Jaime/Brienne and Tyrion/Cersei at its core and now the dialogue is borderline mediocre in a good scene. Tormund / Sandor was good. Too bad those scenes are so few and far between now.
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Away all Goats posted:Tormund / Sandor was good. Too bad those scenes are so few and far between now. Also the bit with Tormund/Gendry
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And Arya/Tywin wasn't even in the books; it's a show-only thing but the writing was solid and the actors worked really well together.
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Somebody here had a theory that something in the show indicated that Euron would kill Jon, but now I can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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The Little Kielbasa posted:Somebody here had a theory that something in the show indicated that Euron would kill Jon, but now I can't find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Even though Jon isn't really a Conqueror, but prophecies have always been vague and poorly worded drivel, so...
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So I finally decided to check out this Preston guy's videos, and aside from the annoying characters he tries to play, I think his review stuff is pretty on point, and he does have a ton of interesting things to say about the show and the books. A lot of his theorycrafting is hilariously dumb, though. I'm currently watching one of the videos in his 'what you are missing' series, and he speculates that Donal Noye probably ate his own arm at the Siege of Storm's End (because, I mean, how else could you lose an arm during a siege?), and was sent to the Wall as a punishment for this. 
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Drunk in Space posted:So I finally decided to check out this Preston guy's videos, and aside from the annoying characters he tries to play, I think his review stuff is pretty on point, and he does have a ton of interesting things to say about the show and the books. Also Noye's arm was an agent of the Three Eyed Raven.
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