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Man Musk posted:Sounds like you're saying America is not ready for single payer healthcare I feel in my heart that Americans are ready for universal healthcare, but there are certain legal and structural issues that need to be settled before we can get a workable piece of legislation going. *fast forward 16 years* I feel in my heart that Americans are ready for universal healthcare, but there are certain legal and structural issues that need to be settled before we can get a workable piece of legislation going.
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Ace of Baes posted:The old daily shows whole thing was cutting clips of Republicans arguing with themselves and making stupid jokes, it was alright and the options for political comedy on the were pretty sparse. Yeah, I mean it was funny to watch Republicans get made fun of and Jon Stewart was pretty good with comedic timing and making goofy faces, but the humor was never particularly "interesting" from a political perspective (and sometimes it was outright terrible/harmful, like the dumb "rally to restore sanity" stuff). punk rebel ecks posted:I don't understand the ridicule. Kamala Harris is an African American, a woman one at that. She stated that she was for universal healthcare before during Q and As and no one believed that she was for a single payer plan. Now that she finally cosponsored a bill by Bernie Sanders ( aka the most popular WASP in politics) only then people will take her seriously on single payer? Looks fishy and is just filled with racial undertones. Isn't Bernie like literally not a WASP? Like he does not fit the P in that acronym. The reason people were/are skeptical is that Harris's history isn't exactly leftist and includes a bunch of questionable, if not outright bad, stuff. Because she doesn't have a history of reliably being in support of leftist causes, she isn't as reliable as someone who does. This is also the reason why most not-dumb leftists don't like Tulsi Gabbard much; aside from supporting Bernie and UHC there isn't really anything in her history indicating an ideological commitment to leftism (and there's a number of things that run directly contrary to it). Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 08:10 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:I don't understand the ridicule. Kamala Harris is an African American, a woman one at that. She stated that she was for universal healthcare before during Q and As and no one believed that she was for a single payer plan. Now that she finally cosponsored a bill by Bernie Sanders ( aka the most popular WASP in politics) only then people will take her seriously on single payer? Looks fishy and is just filled with racial undertones. she tried to keep people who were ordered released in jail for cheap labor. it's gonna take a lot more than her cosponsoring a bill she knows won't pass for me to believe she actually cares about anyone but the rich and powerful
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Man Musk posted:ya it's a systemic problem. the conditions of capitalism invariably produce great inequities in economic power which then directly translates to great inequities in political power.
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Their greatest mistake was probably calling the socialists "socialfascists", as instructed by the Komintern, until Hitler had a comfortable grip on power. Which would be relevant today if the current analogical structure to the Komintern (that is disseminating the idea that socialists are the true enemies of progress) weren't bourgeoisie cliques that stand to gain from a fascist takeover. steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 08:26 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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MaxxBot posted:Please, take a moment to mourn for the ultra-super-mega-fuckoff-rich they literally cannot sympathize. they are too sheltered from us. this goes for the democrats too
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steinrokkan posted:Their greatest mistake was probably calling the socialists "socialfascists", as instructed by the Komintern, until Hitler had a comfortable grip on power. tbf the german communists might have been reluctant to team up with the social democrats for other reasons, such as the mentioned social democrats teaming up with literal protofascists to repress and slaughter communists en masse not twenty years beforehand.
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MaxxBot posted:Please, take a moment to mourn for the ultra-super-mega-fuckoff-rich "grief #disrupts our lives"
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Cerebral Bore posted:tbf the german communists might have been reluctant to team up with the social democrats for other reasons, such as the mentioned social democrats teaming up with literal protofascists to repress and slaughter communists en masse not twenty years beforehand. Look, the Spartacists wanted a revolution and the SDs just weren't ready to take the relationship to that level, you know? The Communists, they just wanted to take things too fast. https://twitter.com/Julie_Johnsoned/status/903371074150289408 Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 10:31 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol the daily show has always been like this remember the rally to restore sanity Ytlaya posted:Yeah, I mean it was funny to watch Republicans get made fun of and Jon Stewart was pretty good with comedic timing and making goofy faces, but the humor was never particularly "interesting" from a political perspective (and sometimes it was outright terrible/harmful, like the dumb "rally to restore sanity" stuff). What made the rally to restore sanity so bad, anyway? I stopped watching TDS as much during the Obama years and missed it entirely.
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I don't care about The Daily Show, but I hate that Colbert wasted his talent on his stupid show.
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John Stewart: “But, as always in these debates, it’s left to the longest shot to say the craziest thing. (smugly) I give you Ohio Representative, Dennis Kucinich.” Clip of Dennis Kucinich: I’d nominate any gay to the Supreme Court, or lesbian or bisexual or transgendered person to the Supreme Court (as long as they were ready to uphold Roe v. Wade) John Stewart: “Yes, Yes. All rise for the honorable Justice Chick with Dick!” *Laughter, applause* The Daily Show, July 22. 2003
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Some people have been trawling Trevor Noah's old tweets and he's the corniest motherfucker on the planet. https://twitter.com/Trevornoah/status/5127985863 https://twitter.com/Trevornoah/status/14615981199 https://twitter.com/Trevornoah/status/248058331795705856
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Atahualpa posted:What made the rally to restore sanity so bad, anyway? I stopped watching TDS as much during the Obama years and missed it entirely. It was a completely ineffectual bullshit event designed to let libs feel good about themselves rather than to work towards any kind of actual political goal.
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the american left is so hosed that the ideological front line is now a half-hour comedy program aired at 11:00 PM on basic cable lmfao
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Some people have been trawling Trevor Noah's old tweets and he's the corniest motherfucker on the planet. Man, I had this buddy who wanted to do stand up and for about 6 months his entire life was devoted to producing these same variety of corny rear end jokes and posting them on twitter. Then he moved back to the south and got a job at his dad's office.
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Corny jokes own. If that was all Noah did he'd be great
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Over Easy posted:Man, I had this buddy who wanted to do stand up and for about 6 months his entire life was devoted to producing these same variety of corny rear end jokes and posting them on twitter. Then he moved back to the south and got a job at his dad's office. Maybe he'd do better in South Africa.
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https://twitter.com/JamesPindell/status/903585415684337664 https://twitter.com/chucktodd/status/903587148531675136 https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/903588152207605760 i'm the politics expert who thinks what's really gonna help a dem running for senate in alabama is the vocal support of nancy pelosi and chuck schumer
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Atahualpa posted:What made the rally to restore sanity so bad, anyway? I stopped watching TDS as much during the Obama years and missed it entirely. it wasn't actually that bad, it just made a lotta people Real Mad that stewart wasn't personally leading the revolution or whatever also the "rally to restore sanity" was explicitly targeted at the post-9/11 iraq-war fearmongering rather than the left
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How do you take "don't spend any money whatever you do" as the lesson of Jon Ossoff lol
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jBrereton posted:How do you take "don't spend any money whatever you do" as the lesson of Jon Ossoff lol Look, if the bad dems couldn't win in their chosen battleground then no dem can win anywhere else so might as well just not even try. After all, if they could it would expose all them consultants and strategists and other sinecured people as the bunch of hacks they really are, which obviously is completely unacceptable.
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jBrereton posted:How do you take "don't spend any money whatever you do" as the lesson of Jon Ossoff lol isn't this statement about consolidating data centers and cutting government waste
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Fallen Hamprince posted:https://twitter.com/JamesPindell/status/903585415684337664 the article literally doesn't mention his views or positions at all, wtf it talks about his endorsements and says he refuses to talk bad about Trump, but doesn't say anything about what he prefers to talk about instead. and since he'd be getting big sloppy editorial blowjobs from Politico if he was a Ossoff-style tax cutter, let's do some Googling... he opposes tax cuts, supports raising the minimum wage to a living wage, wants more education funding, opposes charter schools, wants to make equal pay for women mandatory, believes all Americans have a right to healthcare, and openly calls out "states rights" arguments for healthcare as the bullshit they are yeah, I'm sure the Dems are just staying out of that race for his own good. nothing to do with his views being to the left of the Democratic party
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Man Musk posted:daily show should have a host wot is wretchedly poor, wearing a barrel w/ straps over it, i wouuld watch that id settle for a host wot is funny
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Yinlock posted:it wasn't actually that bad, it just made a lotta people Real Mad that stewart wasn't personally leading the revolution or whatever nah, it was targeted at all the people who were Mad About Politics in 2010 the Tea Party was in full swing at the time, and the left was starting to get mad at the ACA, Obama's austerity efforts, and various other betrayals the rally was a shrine to the Reasonable Moderate Centrists, a celebration of rejecting those crazy extremists on both the right and the left
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Ytlaya posted:Isn't Bernie like literally not a WASP? Like he does not fit the P in that acronym. Or the AS, and depending on who you ask, the W is questionable too It's a comically dumb statement and I'm still mad that source never got quoted 
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Cerebral Bore posted:tbf the german communists might have been reluctant to team up with the social democrats for other reasons, such as the mentioned social democrats teaming up with literal protofascists to repress and slaughter communists en masse not twenty years beforehand. also the whole "stalin refusing to let the KPD form a United front" thing Atahualpa posted:What made the rally to restore sanity so bad, anyway? I stopped watching TDS as much during the Obama years and missed it entirely. it was basically a giant event to celebrate being moderate and reasonable in the face of the forces that would eventually elect trump
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Main Paineframe posted:he opposes tax cuts, supports raising the minimum wage to a living wage, wants more education funding, opposes charter schools, wants to make equal pay for women mandatory, believes all Americans have a right to healthcare, and openly calls out "states rights" arguments for healthcare as the bullshit they are wow, dude sounds super racist
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Aurubin posted:Jesus Christ. I thought they just got rid of their copy editors, instead they outsourced the whole opinion pages to Breitbart. taking a lesson from late-July r/sandersforpresident
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jBrereton posted:How do you take "don't spend any money whatever you do" as the lesson of Jon Ossoff lol The GOP ran more ads against Nancy Pelosi than they did against Ossoff in that race. THey're really good at nationalizing races and boy howdy do them good ole boys hate theyselves Pelosi
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Al! posted:i guess i do have something in common with them after all well that and grits being good
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Fallen Hamprince posted:the american left is so hosed that the ideological front line is now a half-hour comedy program aired at 11:00 PM on basic cable lmfao
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Terror Sweat posted:Corny jokes own. If that was all Noah did he'd be great Lol
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Condiv posted:they literally cannot sympathize. they are too sheltered from us. this goes for the democrats too 50/50 shot the pod save America boys praise this.
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