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RudeCat
Aug 7, 2012

The rudest cat for the rudest jobs


I demand to know what's going on here! Just because we can kill them doesn't mean we should.

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Kangra
May 7, 2012

Get an explanation before we kill them. Or at least ask for one.

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

Demand explanation, they might just be doing their job.

Kanthulhu
Apr 8, 2009
NO ONE SPOIL GAME OF THRONES FOR ME!

IF SOMEONE TELLS ME THAT OBERYN MARTELL AND THE MOUNTAIN DIE THIS SEASON, I'M GOING TO BE PISSED.

BUT NOT HALF AS PISSED AS I'D BE IF SOMEONE WERE TO SPOIL VARYS KILLING A LANISTER!!!


(Dany shits in a field)
Let's not attack human soldiers right away, demand an explanation instead.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
Demand an explanation. We're white people, we're allowed to loot things.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Kanthulhu posted:

Let's not attack human soldiers right away, demand an explanation instead.
They're not just human but Sommerlunding, Kai's chosen people! But it turns out, still capable of evil.

Flight from the Dark posted:

The rough-looking leader approaches you and says, ‘Our needs are simple, kind sir. Your money or your life!’

Although he is being reasonably polite about it, we're still not going to be handing over our money or anything else. Shall we fight the three of them, or make a run for it?

RudeCat
Aug 7, 2012

The rudest cat for the rudest jobs


With a heavy sigh, draw our weapon and prepare to fight.

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

Fight.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Like I thought, unauthorized banditry. Fight!

Omnicrom
Aug 3, 2007
Snorlax Afficionado


achtungnight posted:

Like I thought, unauthorized banditry. Fight!

Let's counter with some morally authorized banditry then fight

Snorb
Nov 19, 2010
"'Your money or your life?' Ugh. You are so gonna die for threatening us with something so stupid."

Let's kick their asses.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Flight from the Dark posted:

They see you raise your weapon, and they instantly attack you.

If you decide to fight them, you must fight them one at a time.

Leader: COMBAT SKILL 15 ENDURANCE 22

Soldier 1: COMBAT SKILL 13 ENDURANCE 20

Soldier 2: COMBAT SKILL 12 ENDURANCE 20

A new twist is introduced in this fight: evasion. Sometimes the book will offer you the chance to evade a fight part-way through. Sometimes there are conditions attached, like "only after two rounds" or something like that, other times (like now) you can do it any time. The way it works is, you do one last round of combat (but ignore any damage you would have dealt to the opponent, only apply the damage they did to you) and then turn to the indicated section. Often what happens is just the same as if you'd avoided the fight altogether, but other times you get a different outcome - sometimes better, sometimes worse.

In addition to that, you may remember me mentioning earlier that fights with multiple opponents function like a gauntlet: as soon as you kill one, you start fighting the next. So what we have here is essentially three separate fights with no chance to heal up or do anything else in between.

Now, when you're playing the game yourself you'd be able to evade at any point during the fight, but it would take way too much time to ask for votes between every combat round, so I'm not always going to ask about evading if the fight looks easy, and when I do ask I'll ask once and you'll be able to vote for whatever conditions you want to evade under. For example, you might say "We'll evade if our Endurance drops below 10" or something like that.

But in this case I'm just going to let the fight with the leader play out and see where we're at after that.

Leader: COMBAT SKILL 15 ENDURANCE 22
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 28
Combat Ratio: 4

We roll: 9
Leader: COMBAT SKILL 15 ENDURANCE 8
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 28

We roll: 2
Leader: COMBAT SKILL 15 ENDURANCE 2
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 25

We roll: 5
Leader: COMBAT SKILL 15 ENDURANCE 0
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 23

So we've taken 5 damage and have two opponents remaining. The combat ratios for those will be 6 and 7 respectively and you can see what that means for our chances by looking at the Combat Results Table. So the question is, will we evade and if so, under what conditions? Immediately? Never? If our Endurance gets below a certain number? If the first of the two soldiers does a certain amount of damage to us? It's up to you.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
I'm going to say Keep fighting, evade if Endurance falls below 10.

RudeCat
Aug 7, 2012

The rudest cat for the rudest jobs


Keep Fighting. Never Retreat. :black101:

Ratatozsk
Mar 6, 2007

Had we turned left instead, we may have encountered something like this...
Onwards! YIELD FOR NO MAN OR NUMBER!!!

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

achtungnight posted:

Keep fighting, evade if Endurance falls below 10.

This would be a good rule.

Omnicrom
Aug 3, 2007
Snorlax Afficionado


Looking at the combat rating it seems like these guys would need to get unreasonably lucky to actually have a real shot at killing us. There's a good chance we can two-shot these guys, and nothing less than a ridiculous streak of ones are actually going to kill us.

Thus I can agree with Evade only if Endurance goes below 10, because that would mean we're getting absolutely horrible luck.

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



We have potions correct? The only time you can actually use them is in combat right? or is it only outside of combat?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


HOOLY BOOLY posted:

We have potions correct? The only time you can actually use them is in combat right? or is it only outside of combat?

We have no potions at this time, and they can only be used outside combat anyway. (Our Action Chart is on the first page of the thread and shows what equipment we currently have and what special rules, if any, apply.)

Kanthulhu
Apr 8, 2009
NO ONE SPOIL GAME OF THRONES FOR ME!

IF SOMEONE TELLS ME THAT OBERYN MARTELL AND THE MOUNTAIN DIE THIS SEASON, I'M GOING TO BE PISSED.

BUT NOT HALF AS PISSED AS I'D BE IF SOMEONE WERE TO SPOIL VARYS KILLING A LANISTER!!!


(Dany shits in a field)
Just keep fighting. I think we are going to school these losers anyway.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Ratatozsk posted:

Onwards! YIELD FOR NO MAN OR NUMBER!!!
A fairly safe choice in this case, as Omnicrom noted.

Soldier 1: COMBAT SKILL 13 ENDURANCE 20
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 23
Combat ratio: 6

We roll: 3
Soldier 1: COMBAT SKILL 13 ENDURANCE 12
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 20

We roll: 5
Soldier 1: COMBAT SKILL 13 ENDURANCE 2
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 18

We roll: 2
Soldier 1: COMBAT SKILL 13 ENDURANCE 0
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 15

Well, that didn't go quite as well as hoped, but we fight to the death!

Soldier 2: COMBAT SKILL 12 ENDURANCE 20
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 15
Combat ratio: 7

We roll: 3
Soldier 2: COMBAT SKILL 12 ENDURANCE 11
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 13

We roll: 2
Soldier 2: COMBAT SKILL 12 ENDURANCE 3
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 10

:ohdear:

We roll: 2
Soldier 2: COMBAT SKILL 12 ENDURANCE 0
Lone Wolf: COMBAT SKILL 19 ENDURANCE 7

That could have gone a lot better. Random.org apparently has it out for us today. Still, it probably wasn't worth running away by the time we hit 10 Endurance since there was literally no chance of the second soldier surviving another round.

Flight from the Dark posted:

The ‘soldiers’ lie dead at your feet. They were bandits who were stealing from the refugees of Toran, and from the abandoned houses and farms in the area.

Searching their bodies you find 28 Gold Crowns and two Backpacks containing enough food for 3 Meals. They had been armed with a crossbow and three Swords. The crossbow has been damaged in the fight, but the Swords are untouched and you may keep one if you wish.

You adjust your equipment, give a cautious glance towards the west, and continue your run towards the outer defences of the capital.

Healing:+1 EP (8/28)

We're already carrying a sword, so unless anyone objects we'll just take the food and cash. This puts us over the 50GC limit, but as with weapons I'm going to rule that we can keep extra in our backpack (up to 50 per slot).

Flight from the Dark posted:

As you reach the walls of the fieldworks, the large oak gates open and you are quickly hurried inside. A sergeant, bloodstained and battle-weary, calls to an officer who turns and recognizes your cloak.

‘My Lord,’ he says. ‘Where are the other Kai Masters? We are in desperate need of their wisdom. The Darklords press us most cruelly and casualties are high.’

You inform the brave officer of the terrible fate of your kinsmen, and the urgency of your mission to seek the King’s council. Without saying a word, he motions to a soldier to bring forward two horses. You both mount and gallop off towards the high city wall of Holmgard.

Healing:+1 EP (9/28)

[quote="Flight from the Dark"]You reach the main gates of the capital, and stare in awe at the height of the city’s walls. Two hundred feet high, the walls of Holmgard have withstood the ravages of both time and the Darklords. You and the officer race through the tunnel of the inner gatehouse, one hundred yards in length, and finally halt outside the doorway of the main watchtower. Great crowds of soldiers and civilians are running to and fro.

Healing:+1 EP (10/28)

Well, we've finally reached the city. Do we stick with this soldier, or should find our own way to the citadel?

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
Let's not get lost, stick with him

Seyser Koze
Dec 15, 2013

Mucho Mucho
Nap Ghost
Stay with our escort.

Kanthulhu
Apr 8, 2009
NO ONE SPOIL GAME OF THRONES FOR ME!

IF SOMEONE TELLS ME THAT OBERYN MARTELL AND THE MOUNTAIN DIE THIS SEASON, I'M GOING TO BE PISSED.

BUT NOT HALF AS PISSED AS I'D BE IF SOMEONE WERE TO SPOIL VARYS KILLING A LANISTER!!!


(Dany shits in a field)
We are a Kai. We work better alone. Ditch the soldier and use our superior training to find the better way.

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

Why make things harder? Stick with him.

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Stay with the soldier.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Batman often disappears when Gordon least expects it. Let's be Batman!

Both options are up for grabs and this felt most fun.

RudeCat
Aug 7, 2012

The rudest cat for the rudest jobs


Let's give this soldier a story to tell to his grandkids and let him escort us.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Seyser Koze posted:

Stay with our escort.
OK!

Flight from the Dark posted:

Staying close to the officer, you follow him through an arched portal and up a short flight of stairs to a long hall. Soldiers run back and forth bearing orders on ornate scrolls to officers stationed around the city wall.

A haggard and scar-faced man dressed in the white and purple robes of the King’s court approaches you and bids you follow him to the citadel.

Healing: +1 EP (11/28)
But should we follow this guy or go our own way?

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



So i know it's jumping ahead a bit, but other than exploring the graveyard closely or going your own way through the city, the next book mentions some items that i don't know how you'd find otherwise.

But in any case, we are to close to the end to risk getting shanked in an alleyway or something. So lets follow him

Snorb
Nov 19, 2010
Let's look back so far at what happened to us:
  • Our monastery was burned to the ground and our fellow monks and instructors lie dead.
  • We ran through a forest.
  • We almost died.
  • We watched the prince of the Sommerlund die in front of us.
  • We almost got killed by looters.
  • This guy shows up and requests we follow him instead of our escort.
  • We have no idea who the gently caress this guy is.
We're staying with our escort.

RudeCat
Aug 7, 2012

The rudest cat for the rudest jobs


All that is gold does not glitter, follow that man!

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

Again don't see much point in ditching our escort, stick with him.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


HOOLY BOOLY posted:

So i know it's jumping ahead a bit, but other than exploring the graveyard closely or going your own way through the city, the next book mentions some items that i don't know how you'd find otherwise.
Not sure what you're referring to here?

Snorb posted:

Let's look back so far at what happened to us:
  • Our monastery was burned to the ground and our fellow monks and instructors lie dead.
  • We ran through a forest.
  • We almost died.
  • We watched the prince of the Sommerlund die in front of us.
  • We almost got killed by looters.
  • This guy shows up and requests we follow him instead of our escort.
  • We have no idea who the gently caress this guy is.
We're staying with our escort.
It's not really made clear in the text, but our original escort has slipped away somehow and we can only choose to follow the new guy or try to find our own way. There's no possibility of staying with the first guy.

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Tiggum posted:

Not sure what you're referring to here?

It's not really made clear in the text, but our original escort has slipped away somehow and we can only choose to follow the new guy or try to find our own way. There's no possibility of staying with the first guy.

some kind of key or crystal i want to say? i might be thinking of something between the 2nd and 3rd books then.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
Didn't these books have fake paragraphs and item prompts for items which never existed? I'm almost sure some of the Fighting Fantasy books worked like that.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
New escort.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


RabidWeasel posted:

Didn't these books have fake paragraphs and item prompts for items which never existed? I'm almost sure some of the Fighting Fantasy books worked like that.
I can't say definitely no, but I don't remember any. I do remember that happening in something I read, but I think it was a Fighting Fantasy.

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

some kind of key or crystal i want to say? i might be thinking of something between the 2nd and 3rd books then.
I'm not aware of anything like that, but I've read the first five books so many times that it's possible there's something there that I just don't notice any more because I skim them more than read them. Or possibly it's on a path I'm less familiar with. Either way, we'll have to keep our eyes open and point it out if we see it.

Flight from the Dark posted:

You follow the man into a small library off the main hall. He pushes one of the many books on the shelves which line all four walls, and you hear a metallic click. One section of the bookcase slowly slides back to reveal a hidden passage.

Healing: +1 EP (12/28)
OK, we followed the first guy and we've followed this second guy so far, but do we follow him into a secret passage or try to find our own way through the streets?

The book almost seems to be mocking us at this point as all the "stop following" choices lead to the same section, so it's very obvious that if you say "no" at this stage then it will have been pointless saying "yes" the first two times. It's either a very unsubtle hint or a mean trick.

Tiggum fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Sep 3, 2017

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

Yea, now I just want to follow for the sake of knowing how it's gonna kill us, the book's making it obvious that it doesn't want us to, though.

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achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Yes, I agree.

Follow the evil advisor to our deaths!

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