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Zaphod42 posted:There's a ton of backstory lore stuff like Dark Souls, but the actual game story is very minor and mostly cheesy. yeah this is the part I'm interested in, b/c the setting is supposed to be post-apocalyptic but it's still cool since everything is sci-fi with power armor and space ships and floating robot drones and people are wielding like, psychic powers.
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I am a big fan of D2 bringing the Cabal out of loving nowhere. The Vex? poo poo they gently caress around with the flow of time and have machine brains that sit around in timeless chambers trying to mess with the future and past all at once because they ain't got no present. They also have the ability to make massive fuckoff robots and turn everything into pixels made of rock and metal. Fallen? Goro with guns that fire tracking bullets made of energy. loving space pirate clans who do the honor duel poo poo for leadership. I'm pretty sure the hive and the taken have been knocked down a peg so gently caress'em. Cabal? They're these big stupid space spartans who have no clear concept of small unit tactics or fireteams or anything that would make better use of those big shields and their big guns. They did Reliant a ship right into the side of the dreadnought and open a landing area for you so there's that, but even then you were still fighting against them so they weren't thinking that part through very much. But suddenly they show up with a huge armada, wreck the last city, and make like they're gonna steal/kill the traveler? Here's to seeing how big of a space hitler that leader guy is because they absolutely rearmed themselves bigtime.
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Sep 1, 2017 19:33
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khy posted:the Vex which are time-travelling robots that can erase people from time and somehow this is less of a threat than the Cabal? The Vex were the primary concern in vanilla Destiny for exactly that reason. As kilometers Davis can tell you, the original raid, the Vault of Glass, involves going into their time realm so that we could cut off their dick (Atheon) and balls (Templar). They've been total chumps since then. We condensed their time stream into only one possible outcome, which is them getting defeated by another race in the future, so they got really depressed and salty and just kind of teleport around for no reason now. The cabal are a bigger threat now because their real army was just off screen the whole time.
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Sep 1, 2017 19:41
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The weaponized ontology Vex stuff from the grimoire was p cool.
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Sep 1, 2017 19:45
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you guys need to watch that lore video for real
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Sep 1, 2017 19:48
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Destiny has incredible lore because they had a totally hosed up dev process and literally reassembled the game from pieces of the original planned narrative, so they stumbled rear end backwards into what makes good video game world building: multiple potentially contradictory accounts of past events relayed via unreliable sources and narrators. It seems like they actually had their ducks in a row for this project so I'm assuming we will get a bog standard bad video game plot with lots of cutscenes.
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Sep 1, 2017 19:53
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any plot that includes time manipulation or travel is bad
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Sep 1, 2017 19:57
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Doorknob Slobber posted:any plot that includes time manipulation or travel is bad Destiny's "plot" did not directly include time travel or manipulation
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Sep 1, 2017 20:02
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We never did any actual traveling through time or manipulating the time stream. The potential for them to erase us from existence was just their doomsday device. They could have just as easily had a nuclear bomb in the vault, or some kind of potion that turned Guardians gay.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Destiny has incredible lore because they had a totally hosed up dev process and literally reassembled the game from pieces of the original planned narrative, so they stumbled rear end backwards into what makes good video game world building: multiple potentially contradictory accounts of past events relayed via unreliable sources and narrators. As far as I'm concerned, the best mission in Destiny 1 story-wise is Paradox, where you have to re-enter the Vault of Glass after picking up Praedyth's distress signal. Praedyth and his fireteam disappeared there centuries ago and many of them had been erased from time itself, and when you find Praedyth at the bottom of the Vault he's been dead a powerful long time and all find of him is his bones and his dead Ghost. The whole story is a culmination of the story of Kabr's fireteam which we never really get in full because of lost records and the confusing time-bending nature of the Vex and it works perfectly to set a mood and tell a story while leaving the details up to your imagination.
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Sep 1, 2017 20:05
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I love the grimoire entry for the guy trappd in a Vex box without even knowing it.
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Sep 1, 2017 20:06
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I played Destiny for a couple of hundred hours. I have no idea what that dude is saying in that lore video thing.
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Sep 1, 2017 20:09
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Minrad posted:yeah this is the part I'm interested in, b/c the setting is supposed to be post-apocalyptic but it's still cool since everything is sci-fi with power armor and space ships and floating robot drones and people are wielding like, psychic powers. The stuff about previous guardians and the people who invented the power armor and everything are pretty cool, yeah. Its like Diablo 3 where the main story is stupid as hell but the little audio bits you get from picking up books are super cool and well written.
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Sep 1, 2017 20:10
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:We never did any actual traveling through time or manipulating the time stream. The potential for them to erase us from existence was just their doomsday device. They could have just as easily had a nuclear bomb in the vault, or some kind of potion that turned Guardians gay. Turned? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHVtZsCZ1TA Destiny would be so much better if it went full JoJo's.
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Sep 1, 2017 20:13
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Guardians have always been gay. Wait a second... Did the Vex... Win? I don't care how many dicks I have to suck, I'm getting to the bottom of this
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Sep 1, 2017 20:16
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:As kilometers Davis can tell you, the original raid, the Vault of Glass, involves going into their time realm so that we could cut off their dick (Atheon) and balls (Templar). Woah 
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Sep 1, 2017 20:40
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So the Cabal are like Necromongers?
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Capntastic posted:So the Cabal are like Necromongers? I mean we took that gauntlet right off that one cabal dude. So yes?
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Sep 1, 2017 21:20
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Are the emo humans / night elves still around
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Sep 1, 2017 21:36
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Capntastic posted:So the Cabal are like Necromongers? I think that's more the Hive. Their entire thing is they're a potentially immortal undead race that's terrified of death because before they became the hive their max lifespan was around a dozen years. They've spent the last 30k years traveling the universe destroying all life they've come across in the secret hope they find a people that can destroy them. In their mind entropy is the great enemy and they will destroy until they are powerful enough to outlive the heat death of the universe or be destroyed by a culture that already is. Of course, if they become powerful enough to defeat entropy, they will be destroyed in turn by the parasitic creature inhabiting them.
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Sep 1, 2017 21:37
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everything about destiny 2 is making me not want to buy it from that garbage trailer to the story continuing to avoid anything that was interesting about the destiny universe to begin with, but god drat it the core gameplay is fun and i wanted this on PC since destiny 1 so i guess im buying this
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Sep 1, 2017 21:53
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quiggy posted:As far as I'm concerned, the best mission in Destiny 1 story-wise is Paradox, where you have to re-enter the Vault of Glass after picking up Praedyth's distress signal. Praedyth and his fireteam disappeared there centuries ago and many of them had been erased from time itself, and when you find Praedyth at the bottom of the Vault he's been dead a powerful long time and all find of him is his bones and his dead Ghost. The whole story is a culmination of the story of Kabr's fireteam which we never really get in full because of lost records and the confusing time-bending nature of the Vex and it works perfectly to set a mood and tell a story while leaving the details up to your imagination. you left out the part where he took off his armor and died naked
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Sep 1, 2017 21:59
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That trailer was fine, it's aimed at getting the people into Call of Duty interested in the game. The only thing really bad was the weakass script, the costuming and direction was pretty good. And Dinklage's delivery was the worst work he's ever done, he sounded bored as gently caress in every line.
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Sep 1, 2017 22:00
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moist turtleneck posted:you left out the part where he took off his armor and died naked Your clothes are fashioned from Light. When your ghost abandons you, you become naked. Smh did you even read my fanfic, "Eris Morn and the nudey run off the moon"
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Sep 1, 2017 22:15
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At least the commercial is better than the live action commercial for the first Destiny with a dude with gjallerhorn in one hand and a Taco Bell burrito in the other.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:At least the commercial is better than the live action commercial for the first Destiny with a dude with gjallerhorn in one hand and a Taco Bell burrito in the other. I think you're mixing things up here.
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Sep 1, 2017 22:24
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I think that's more the Hive. Their entire thing is they're a potentially immortal undead race that's terrified of death because before they became the hive their max lifespan was around a dozen years. The sword logic is some good poo poo and probably my favorite bit of Destiny lore. Also Oryx and his failson Crota. God drat the books of Sorrow are great. Everyone please read The Traitor Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson.
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Out of all of the stuff that happened in Destiny (which, as most have said, culminates to absolutely nothing), I could've sworn there was some neat stuff about the Traveler trying to run away when the Hive came to Earth but Rasputin alpha-striked the Traveler, crippling him so that he would stay and continue to serve humanity. But now that I'm trying to catch up, I notice that a quick search on this has a lot of people saying it never happened or that it could've, but didn't, or whatever. Did anyone else get the same impression? Is this some sort of mass hallucination between grinding loot?
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Sep 1, 2017 22:50
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FutureCop posted:Out of all of the stuff that happened in Destiny (which, as most have said, culminates to absolutely nothing), I could've sworn there was some neat stuff about the Traveler trying to run away when the Hive came to Earth but Rasputin alpha-striked the Traveler, crippling him so that he would stay and continue to serve humanity. But now that I'm trying to catch up, I notice that a quick search on this has a lot of people saying it never happened or that it could've, but didn't, or whatever. Did anyone else get the same impression? Is this some sort of mass hallucination between grinding loot? It's by far the most interesting theory as to why the Traveler stayed so I choose to believe it.
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DrNutt posted:The sword logic is some good poo poo and probably my favorite bit of Destiny lore. Also Oryx and his failson Crota. God drat the books of Sorrow are great. I particularly like the snippet around Oryx's missing second son Nokris who had been erased out of all existence by the Vex and they don't even have a sliver of awareness save for an ancient statue outside of Oryx's throne room that the Vex ominously left behind as a warning.
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Sep 1, 2017 22:56
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I'm mostly just a fan of the idea that all the enemies we face are loving terrified because Guardians are fearless amnesiac murder zombies that just keep coming back when you kill them. It doesn't really come across in-game but it'd be a shame to lose that.
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Sep 1, 2017 22:58
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FutureCop posted:Out of all of the stuff that happened in Destiny (which, as most have said, culminates to absolutely nothing), I could've sworn there was some neat stuff about the Traveler trying to run away when the Hive came to Earth but Rasputin alpha-striked the Traveler, crippling him so that he would stay and continue to serve humanity. But now that I'm trying to catch up, I notice that a quick search on this has a lot of people saying it never happened or that it could've, but didn't, or whatever. Did anyone else get the same impression? Is this some sort of mass hallucination between grinding loot? that was the assumption for a long time yes but later grimoire cards made it more clear that Rasputin had a contingency plan for this that it did not act on also Seth Dickinson who wrote a lot of this poo poo said pretty definitively on Reddit that the Traveler specifically chose to stay and not leave
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Orv posted:I'm mostly just a fan of the idea that all the enemies we face are loving terrified because Guardians are amnesiac murder zombies that just keep coming back when you kill them. It doesn't really come across in-game but it'd be a shame to lose that. Especially considering our enemies (with the exception of the throne room business) don't have the same ability. So we're essentially murdering thousands upon thousands of sentient creatures that will not be resurrected in the way we are. We must be terrifying.
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Legs Benedict posted:that was the assumption for a long time yes but later grimoire cards made it more clear that Rasputin had a contingency plan for this that it did not act on Death of the author, yo.
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DrNutt posted:Especially considering our enemies (with the exception of the throne room business) don't have the same ability. So we're essentially murdering thousands upon thousands of sentient creatures that will not be resurrected in the way we are. We must be terrifying. Yeah, we just show up in a shimmer of light, loving run around jumping and shooting and exploding poo poo in complete silence, coming back immediately any time we die, kill one of their leaders or officers or whatever, steal their poo poo and then leave. That would loving suck to be a foot soldier against.
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 I don't comsume either of these items. But I've been prepping my keyboard gut and my body is beyond ready.
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Sep 1, 2017 23:09
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in it 2 win it, same name as forums
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Orv posted:Yeah, we just show up in a shimmer of light, loving run around jumping and shooting and exploding poo poo in complete silence, coming back immediately any time we die, kill one of their leaders or officers or whatever, steal their poo poo and then leave. That would loving suck to be a foot soldier against. Don't forget dancing. I love the lore entry from the Cabal perspective that talks about guardians looting and dancing. It's a little on the nose but great nonetheless.
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FutureCop posted:Out of all of the stuff that happened in Destiny (which, as most have said, culminates to absolutely nothing), I could've sworn there was some neat stuff about the Traveler trying to run away when the Hive came to Earth but Rasputin alpha-striked the Traveler, crippling him so that he would stay and continue to serve humanity. But now that I'm trying to catch up, I notice that a quick search on this has a lot of people saying it never happened or that it could've, but didn't, or whatever. Did anyone else get the same impression? Is this some sort of mass hallucination between grinding loot? It didn't happen, Rasputin had a contingency plan to hit the traveler but it looked at the situation unfolding and said "welp im just gonna sit this one out"
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DrNutt posted:Don't forget dancing. I love the lore entry from the Cabal perspective that talks about guardians looting and dancing. It's a little on the nose but great nonetheless. I just found it and read it and I love it. Player fuckery is 100% in-game canon. 'survivors reported Guardians foraging for equipment, dancing, and performing acrobatics with light vehicles' quote:For the Staff of Primus Ta’aun, Legion Commander From Skyburner V Cohort/Auxiliaries/Strategic Intelligence Maniple A Tactical Outcomes Analysis khy fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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