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Arcsquad12 posted:I never understood why the EU always treated Tie pilots as crappy quality men in one hit kill boxes. In the films, even in Rogue One and TFA, tie jockeys are psychotic killing machines that easily break even against X-Wings.
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Canemacar posted:I seriously don't know how Bioware ever got a reputation for good writing. Like someone else said, their early games. Baldurs Gate, KOTOR, my personal favorite Jade Empire. I heard the first Dragon Age was stellar but I honestly never played more than an hour of it.
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Skoll posted:Like someone else said, their early games. Baldurs Gate, KOTOR, my personal favorite Jade Empire. I heard the first Dragon Age was stellar but I honestly never played more than an hour of it. Jade Empire was seriously under appreciated, imo. That game was fun to play and it was neat to have an eastern theme for once.
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So Snoke has a 60KM wide Mega Star Destroyer that looks like a B2 Bomber. That's a thing. Guess it might have been a bit premature to consider the First Order a terrorist fringe group if they're packing this much firepower. And I know I'm saying that after watching a film where they literally turn a planet into a space gun that can shoot through hyperspace. As Plinkett might say, it's all bigger and better-er.
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Sep 2, 2017 02:38
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It's not a fringe group. After doing some thinking about Old Republic and what the origins of the sith are it seems we will get the same story for the rest of forever. The Republic (Known space) vs The Empire (wild space) the names will change and sometimes the sith will control both areas but it's become the same thing everytime. Known space wins, invaders retreat for 1-1000000 years, rebuild, return and attack, rinse, repeat. It's all fine cause there's lots of stories to tell in that big story but the first order being an "evil militant organization hiding and growing beyond the fringe", well yea, that's what sith do. And frankly by now I'm surprised the Republic worlds haven't figured out the pattern after 50000 odd years of the same cycle endlessly repeating. But more to the point, they've done a good job as describing these fringe areas as massive, since we never saw them beyond Starkiller base, there is no telling how many worlds out there they had managed to control in the time they'd been around. We know about when kid Hux and a few others got sent out there to rebuild the empire but it is unknown how long Snoke or whoever else was also out there setting things up for the next inevitable attack on the Republic worlds.
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Sep 2, 2017 03:57
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I just wish they would do something different. I would loving love to see the First Order as this scrappy, do or die band of psychotic Imperial remnants rather than an overwhelming military force. Have the Starkiller be their big one shot "even the odds" gambit, and then have them capitalize on wiping out the Republic Fleet in the immediate aftermath when Starkiller goes belly up. None of this gigantism nonsense with a Toronto sized battleship. I mean, Spaceballs made the jokes about the Supremacy back in 1987 with Spaceball One. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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Sep 2, 2017 04:02
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The Maga-SSD is significantly more restrained than a planetary laser or a Death Star, so it's not like that's that much of a big deal.
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Skoll posted:Like someone else said, their early games. Baldurs Gate, KOTOR, my personal favorite Jade Empire. I heard the first Dragon Age was stellar but I honestly never played more than an hour of it. Nah even by the time they were doing KOTOR and NWN their poo poo was obviously copy/paste madlibs.
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Sep 2, 2017 05:23
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This new ship has a 60 km wingspan. The Death Star apparently was 160 km in width? So the ship is what, like 1/14th of the size, bearing in mind the DS is a sphere and the ship is much thinner. This is supposed to be Snoke's capital ship they were keeping in reserve until they weakened the Republic. With Hosnian Prime and the Senate wiped out, they decide to finally bring it out. It's also not exactly clear how old the ship is, is it? Snoke might be the rumored threat in the Unknown Regions that's been mentioned several times in the books set during the Empire. So it's possible it's been around awhile.
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Sep 2, 2017 06:26
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Skoll posted:Like someone else said, their early games. Baldurs Gate, KOTOR, my personal favorite Jade Empire. I heard the first Dragon Age was stellar but I honestly never played more than an hour of it.  Jade Empire 2 when?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Is there a new trailer out? No, but I got faked out by a huge spate of google news alerts too
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Sep 2, 2017 15:19
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I don't get news alerts or anything, I just assumed there must have been something where this new spaceship appeared. I've seen the model now, though. There was a bit in Darksaber where Pellaeon mentions that building the Executor almost bankrupted the Empire, which makes one wonder what sort of loans Palpatine had to take out to build the second Death Star. 
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Wheat Loaf posted:I don't get news alerts or anything, I just assumed there must have been something where this new spaceship appeared. Including an evil black version of BB-8 called BB-9E  
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Sep 2, 2017 15:40
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Arcsquad12 posted:I just wish they would do something different. I would loving love to see the First Order as this scrappy, do or die band of psychotic Imperial remnants rather than an overwhelming military force. Have the Starkiller be their big one shot "even the odds" gambit, and then have them capitalize on wiping out the Republic Fleet in the immediate aftermath when Starkiller goes belly up. None of this gigantism nonsense with a Toronto sized battleship. This would more accurately reflect the fact that the First Order are leftists fighting against the conservative Resistance.
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Sep 2, 2017 16:09
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Urdnot Fire posted:Yesterday was the second Force Friday, a marketing blitz where they release all kinds of new products, especially things related to The Last Jedi. That's a really bad photoshop.
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Sep 2, 2017 16:32
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Wheat Loaf posted:I don't get news alerts or anything, I just assumed there must have been something where this new spaceship appeared. I've seen the model now, though. this is why he put up with xizor's transparently ridiculous pretensions of being on vader's level
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Sep 2, 2017 16:38
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Man asking that guy to be your sugar daddy must be the worst experince ever. Pretty sure Sheev popped open a bottle of champagne when he heard Vader iced him.
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Sep 2, 2017 16:42
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dublish posted:That's a really bad photoshop.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I don't get news alerts or anything, I just assumed there must have been something where this new spaceship appeared. I've seen the model now, though.
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Sep 2, 2017 17:23
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I picked up the new Claudia Gray Princess Leia novel, and read it through in one sitting. It was pretty good! It's obviously a YA book, but it was interesting enough, had some fun characters, and I think it managed to have a decent sense of paranoia around the danger of the early rebellion, as well as a quiet feeling of doom, knowing what's eventually going to happen to Alderaan. It's not great literature, but if that's what we were after, then we wouldn't be in this thread. Going to grab Phasma next, though my hopes aren't as high since it's not Claudia Gray.
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Sep 3, 2017 02:17
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I'm about halfway through Phasma. It's pretty interesting not just for the story of where she came from...but also more backstory on the First Order, and Brendol and Armitage Hux.
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Sep 3, 2017 02:18
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Yeah Claudia Gray is my new favorite author from the EU. Lost Stars, Bloodline and the Leia book were all great. It's funny, I went from not giving a poo poo about Star Wars books after the NJO to eagerly looking forward to the latest books, even if some are hit or miss. I'll take a Catalyst or Inferno Squad over the Dark Nest Trilogy any day.
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Sep 3, 2017 02:57
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Started Phasma, and I'm pleased to say that, so far, it hasn't disproved my "Captain Phasma is an Adult Cindel Towani" theory yet.
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cptn_dr posted:Started Phasma, and I'm pleased to say that, so far, it hasn't disproved my "Captain Phasma is an Adult Cindel Towani" theory yet. That theory is actually kind of frightening. Tell us more.
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Sep 3, 2017 04:08
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So, think about it. Cindel Towani and her family would have crashed on Endor some time shortly pre-RotJ, as evidenced by the fact that Wicket W. Warrick was there (Ewoks probably don't have very long life spans), but had never seen a human before. She escapes Endor, and then, as her whole family is dead, presumably finds her way to some godforsaken hellhole where she is picked up by Brendol Hux and inducted into his training program. Once enlisted, she uses the skills she learned as a guerilla soldier among the Ewoks to rise to the top of the First Order's stormtrooper legion- after all, who are best known for defeating Stormtroopers? Exactly. I think you'll find it all checks out.
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Sep 3, 2017 04:38
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Maybe she escaped Endor along with the fleeing Imperial soldiers trapped on the planet when DS2 exploded.
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In a world where Rex was on Endor, I feel there's room for Cindel "Phasma" Towani.
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Sep 3, 2017 05:59
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Slave labor probably helps drive down costs quite a bit.
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cptn_dr posted:So, think about it. Cindel Towani and her family would have crashed on Endor some time shortly pre-RotJ, as evidenced by the fact that Wicket W. Warrick was there (Ewoks probably don't have very long life spans), but had never seen a human before. I kind of hope they do this but my heart of hearts knows Disney probably doesn't even acknowledge that movie.
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My theory is that The Thing is a prequel to the Ewok movies. It explains how the Ewoks could defeat the stormtroopers.
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I've never actually watched those Ewok movies. Were they a big deal when they came out or were they too close to ROTJ to have the same impact as, say, a new Star Wars film in 1991 may have had. More to the point, are they actually any good? Supposing Lucas had gone ahead with sequels instead of prequels, when would've been the most likely time for him to have made them? Early 90s? Or at the same time as he did the prequels? I know he explained to Mark Hamill that he hoped Hamill would be back for sequels.
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I've been catching up on some of the new canon books etc. and I appreciate Disney ditching the idea that the Empire was just a bunch of old white British guys. Looking back, it is kind of uncool that a lot of the EU ran with the sexist old white guys angle instead of treating what we see of the Empire in the movies as a relic of the environment they were produced in. I can understand some of the older material, but that trope persisted for a loooong time. The Empire: Still bad, but not that kind of bad.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've never actually watched those Ewok movies. Were they a big deal when they came out or were they too close to ROTJ to have the same impact as, say, a new Star Wars film in 1991 may have had. More to the point, are they actually any good? they were too bad to have any impact
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I finished reading Phasma on the way to work this morning, and all up I'm actually really pleasantly surprised. It was probably the most unusual new-EU book I've read so far. It was almost Mad Max-y/ post apocalyptic, as well as having some interesting stuff about the First Order. I'd maybe put it in the top 5 of the EU novels so far. Parts of it had the same third person present tense as Aftermath, but I think it worked a lot better here (and I say that as someone who was okay with Aftermath on the whole).
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I liked Rogue One, but I seriously can't get over how loving dumb it is Vader's pad is on the same dumb planet he lost all his remaining limbs and old life on, including (to him) his wife. No it wasn't worth it for the in high ground in joke or old school Star Wars drafts refences. I can't let go how dumb that is.
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SeanBeansShako posted:I liked Rogue One, but I seriously can't get over how loving dumb it is Vader's pad is on the same dumb planet he lost all his remaining limbs and old life on, including (to him) his wife. Eh, I can see it from a Sith perspective. This is the ultimate place of pain and loss for Vader, and thus his place of power.
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Cythereal posted:Eh, I can see it from a Sith perspective. This is the ultimate place of pain and loss for Vader, and thus his place of power. That's pretty much exactly why they did it iirc.
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Maybe I am just conflicted because I hate Mustofar and really liked Vader's old school pad in the Jedi Knight Academy game.
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It was hard to go light side in JKA because your fellow student was such a chode. Bast Castle kicked rear end but the boss fight blueballed you super hard since you had to wait to chop that annoying little puke to bits.
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