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CJacobs posted:It is when there is no intermediary shot that cuts away from them. It happens to Audrey at the end of the latest episode too, she grabs her drink and then in the next shot she's holding it with a different grip even though it cuts from one shot of her directly to another. OK
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My fantasy draft is the same time as the finale this Sunday....I may actually follow this thread to spoil myself on what happens since I may not be able to watch it until Monday night.
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Solice Kirsk posted:My fantasy draft is the same time as the finale this Sunday....I may actually follow this thread to spoil myself on what happens since I may not be able to watch it until Monday night.
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Solice Kirsk posted:My fantasy draft is the same time as the finale this Sunday....I may actually follow this thread to spoil myself on what happens since I may not be able to watch it until Monday night. This seems like the natural conclusion for you.
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Why not just wait until Monday night to watch it? 
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Solice Kirsk posted:My fantasy draft is the same time as the finale this Sunday....I may actually follow this thread to spoil myself on what happens since I may not be able to watch it until Monday night. fix your heart or die
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Elias_Maluco posted:whats a fantasy draft? Something nerds invented to make watching football actually somewhat interesting.
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Solice Kirsk posted:My fantasy draft is the same time as the finale this Sunday....I may actually follow this thread to spoil myself on what happens since I may not be able to watch it until Monday night. Don't do this. That would be an awful way to experience the finale to this amazing show. Just wait.
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I am trying not to act like it's totally a coincidence that the one person who seriously criticized Lynch for being overly indulgent in Season 3 and compared it to season 2 is also seriously thinking somehow that reading a bunch of sweaty nerds comment on a show is somehow even remotely equivalent to watching it or even worth reading in lieu of an unspoiled watch of the finale 
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I'm not the only person. I'm just the one that voiced it with no vitriol or melodrama and still openly states that I love the show despite the flaws I perceive in it. edit: You're right though. I'll just have to wait another day to see it. Waited this long, whats another few hours.
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Comparing it to season 2 IS pretty odd though. The issues both seasons have are nothing alike.
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Escobarbarian posted:Comparing it to season 2 IS pretty odd though. The issues both seasons have are nothing alike. I don't think I ever compared it to season two besides just a fleeting "they're both flawed" observation. I could be wrong. I do mostly post in here drunk since reading half the silly theories that are posted in here make the backs of my eyes hurt.
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kaworu posted:I am trying not to act like it's totally a coincidence that the one person who seriously criticized Lynch for being overly indulgent in Season 3 and compared it to season 2 is also seriously thinking somehow that reading a bunch of sweaty nerds comment on a show is somehow even remotely equivalent to watching it or even worth reading in lieu of an unspoiled watch of the finale Imagine experiencing episode 8 through forums posts. Or last episode. Or any of them, really. This is a show that is more about the experience of watching it than the plot. The best thing about the show is that you have no idea what strange or beautiful thing you could see from week to week, or scene to scene. Why watch someone sweep for 3 minutes? Because you don't know what is going to happen next or how important it will be. I can't understand why anybody who has made it this far in the show would want to lose the joy of discovery by reading reactions just because you can't watch it live.
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Sorry bub I didn't mean to be rude, either and it's never fun to feel piled-on for saying something dumb (I know, because I say dumb things all the time!) But yeah, I sincerely wouldn't want anyone who has stuck with the show to sacrifice that first virginal watch of the finale, not knowing what even could possibly happen because this is like the one guy left who can really and truly shock me out of my seat. I'm frankly hoping for something that's more... scary and terrifying in tone, I have to say. I sort of hope we get a really dark episode for 17, and something a little more bittersweet for episode 18. I mean, frankly it's a privilege to see how Lynch is going to choose how to end all this, because he's had all the time in the world to meticulously set up each and every little tiny thing in advance. I think maybe that's also what's most exciting - the prospect of a realization that just *whoosh* changes the way you perceive everything that preceded it. That's what Episode 8 was a little bit like.
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I'm trying to think of all the unresolved issues. this doesnt count unresolved narrative threads like glove man, just items where we have big burning questions. in no particular order. no idea how even like half of these could be addressed. add more if you can think of them, there's got to be more this was just off the top of my head. whats up with red whats up with billy whats up with audrey what's up with the drunk in the cell what's up with the sick kid what's up with naido what's up with the hum/the furnace room what's up with sarah what's up with becky whats up with jerry how will evil coop be defeated what's up with the box who or what is mother what are the sounds what side is jeffries on what role did laura play in all of this/whats up with the laura orb whats up with the bell/kettle structures can cole hear what's at the coordinates and of course is ___ a tulpa
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Solice Kirsk posted:Why has no one looked at that one cop's new car yet?! i bet its a really cool product placement mercedes
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The Walrus posted:I'm trying to think of all the unresolved issues. this doesnt count unresolved narrative threads like glove man, just items where we have big burning questions. in no particular order. no idea how even like half of these could be addressed. add more if you can think of them, there's got to be more this was just off the top of my head. I feel like maybe a lot of those are the same answers with context, but it'll be interesting to see what was its own thing, and what was something connected.
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My friend gave me the sweet Blu Ray with all the Twin Peaks s1/2 stuff and FWWM. I haven't seen 1/2 in about a decade so if I were to do a rewatch, is there anything I should skip or should I just bare out the whole thing? I don't remember anything from S2 being REALLY bad but I know a lot of the non-Frost / Lynch eps get a bad rap. Also what's the verdict on FWWM before or after the show? I watched it after the series first time round and didn't like it too much but I'm really up for it now after seeing S3
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I skipped most of S2 by skipping through episodes. Like, skip all of James' scenes. They're straight up irrelevant soap opera, like they had time to fill so they just tapes of another show.
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Besson posted:Stop when the killer is revealed and skip to the season 2 finale The first time I ever watched the show, people recommended I do this, and it turned out to be a loving terrible idea. The S2 finale concludes a bunch of plotlines that didn't get rolling until after the killer's reveal-- the Packard/Eckhardt/Martell business, the Windom Earle plot, Donna's crisis over her father's identity, the entire existence of Annie, and most importantly the general investigation of the lodges. Even if you think most of those plotlines are stupid, if you watch it without having seen them you'll just be extra lost. Supercar Gautier fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Sep 3, 2017 |
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cptn_dr posted:Just watch it all. Yeah, do this.
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It's crazy how much FWWM impacts S3. Not just the style but many of the major plot points (Jeffries, Blue Rose, the ring, Laura's lost diary pages, etc.) Since the movie was so panned by critics and audiences, you have to wonder if Lynch is saying "Oh, you didn't like that? Well I did, and here's 18 more hours of it." S3 is much lighter than FWWM but it feels way more like it than it does S1/2.
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As much as I adore The Return, I think FWWM is the culmination of the show, and possibly Lynch's work as a whole. The way it twists our notion of authority figures (Chester Desmond does nothing to help Teresa Banks or Laura, who's being abused by her own father), the way it portrays the harrowing disintegration of teenage friendships and innocence, and the way it reminds us that the show is at its heart about incest and murder are absolutely amazing. I suspect we're coming back to Laura's story in the finale, based on what's come before, and it's what I'm most looking forward to. Lynch is right that she was "the goose who laid the golden eggs" - her story seems almost infinitely rich to me.
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I've been on a binge through S3 this weekend and it does make for a great rewatch, knowing where certain stories and characters are going since so many stories/characters pop up infrequently through the first half of the season. I was always ok with the Dougie scenes but knowing that Cooper awakens fully intact & with memories of everything Dougie went through (eventually) really allows you to enjoy the great physical comedy by Kyle MacLachlan that most of the those scenes end up being. And knowing Ed & Norma end up together (presumably) makes Ed'e absence for so long not seem like a big deal. Etc. etc. Some of the most confounding scenes of the season are actually from the first couple of episodes: Hawk walking through the woods to Glastonbury Grove while talking to Margaret and Cooper talking to Laura in the Red Room. I'm hoping for some resolution to those scenes in the finale. And hopefully some more clarity on what exactly the endgames that both Mr. C and Jeffries were working towards. And what's up with Sarah Palmer. And 119 lady. And what happens at Jack Rabbit's Palace on the 2nd day. Etc. etc. I know many "mysteries" won't be answered tomorrow night and that's ok, but hoping a few of the weirder things will be addressed. I just can't wait for tomorrow night because I have no idea what to expect. It could be a couple of standard episodes tying up different storylines or it could be a complete sojourn into the Lodge world - that's what makes this show unpredictable and a joy to watch. Just think about the (maybe?) inevitable showdown between Cooper and Mr. C - it could go so many ways. It could be a fist fight, it could take place in another dimension, it could be an arm wrestle between Mr C and Freddie's green glove, etc. Anything could happen! The back half of the season has been so strong and I have no doubt it's going to be an amazing couple of hours.
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el oso posted:It's crazy how much FWWM impacts S3. Not just the style but many of the major plot points (Jeffries, Blue Rose, the ring, Laura's lost diary pages, etc.) Since the movie was so panned by critics and audiences, you have to wonder if Lynch is saying "Oh, you didn't like that? Well I did, and here's 18 more hours of it." S3 is much lighter than FWWM but it feels way more like it than it does S1/2. I mean, this IS the guy who had a character look right at the audience and tell them "hey that character you guys thought was lame for over two decades? Nope. Always cool.
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cptn_dr posted:Just watch it all. This. S2's cringiest stuff--which for me involves James, Donna, Windom Earle, pine weasels, and/or civil war re-enactments--is woven in with the good stuff, like super-powered teen Nadine and the lodge investigations. S2 was hurt in some ways by starting so strong (that premiere is quality Peaks) and resolving the Laura Palmer mystery so well. Even a top-notch story idea--which they eventually got with infiltrating the Lodge and the DoppelCoop cliffhanger--would be overshadowed by the quality stuff in the first third of the season. Hell, early S2 has the Mr. Tojamura subplot and you won't even mind because what surrounds it is just riveting. Just take it all in knowing that mid-S2 is an all-time-low. I feel like FWWM is improved with viewing or knowledge of The Missing Pieces. There are certain Missing Pieces like the extended scenes with the Palmers, Laura's horrifying grimace at SpookyFan where I want to shout at Dacid Lynch, "You stupid man! You threw away the wrong bit!" It likely would've been a lot better if Lynch had, say, 18 hours to play with This season has been so good. I don't want it to end, but I'm glad that something as special as S3 happened.I'm hoping Andy has a big part to play in the finale given that he's the only one who seems to "get" interdimensonal beings and their otherworldly Lodge-ic, but I suspect we may end with a fairly traditional story of Cooper defeating his Doppel hand-to-hand and rescuing Audrey from limbo. Or not. I'm on pins and needles. I don't think I've ever been this excited about where storylines are going and how they will conclude.
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So, one of my two theories about the finale. The less stupid of the two. All the "continuity" errors in the Diane scene. The weird timeline fuckery all season. The backwards blinks throughout the season. The weird glitches during gunshots. The Double R customers switching. The multiple versions of the police after they rescue Naido. What has been the recurring theme of this season? If anything else, it's certainly in large part about dopplegangers and the idea of doubles or pairs, which has been a theme throughout Twin Peaks: the two versions of the giant. The two sides of Philip Gerard. Twin Peaks and its shadow version at the beginning of FWWM. Two roles played by Sheryl Lee. Hell, the twins in Invitation to Love. The Horne brothers. The casino brothers. Diane and not-Diane. I think the doppleganger aspect goes beyond Coop. I think the world, or reality, has been doubled or has a doppleganger. It was created when the atomic bomb was detonated. Or maybe when Coop went into Dougie and Booper remained, which was never supposed to happen. Sometimes we're seeing events in reality a, sometimes in reality b. Dougie is hanging out with the casino guys and is playing catch with his son at the same time? It's because it's two versions of Dougie. Probably most events are almost the same but sometimes they differ and that's when we get those weird glitches or inconsistencies (Diane's texts from Booper having different capitalization, for example). Maybe the backwards blinks or gunshot glitches are when we're changing which reality we're currently seeing. It would explain a lot, though I don't know what the ultimate end game would be for this scenario. My impossible dream would be that after the finale Lynch announces there's another set of episodes online, with many of the same scenes, but what we discover is that any given scene is in a different version of the reality than the televised version and it's up to the community to ultimately make sense of which scenes belong to which reality and recreate the actual narrative from that. That will never happen and I'm probably wrong about all of it. But I'm enjoying thinking about it.
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