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FuriousGeorge
Jan 23, 2006

Ah, the simple joys of a monkey knife-fight.
Grimey Drawer
Does anyone know if I would need to restart my current WotC game if wanted to add Shen's Last Gift? I never got any of the DLC released between the original game and WotC, but Shen's Last Gift looks neat.

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RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

You know, if there's one thing about XCOM 2 I still hate it's how AOEs are now tile-based and not radius-based. It's just a lot less intutive for me to figure out what tiles in the cone are going to get hit at a glance.

Robo Turnus
Jul 12, 2006

Nemo Me Impune Lacessit
The nanomachine aliens suck huge balls. I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't get the longass move to turn one of my dudes into a robit and then another pretty long move to get away.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Hey on those ops to rescue captured soldiers with the security levels, does that security level raise if a SPARK kool-aid mans his way into the cell your soldier's held in?

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
I did it, I turned off the alien rulers DLC after encountering the archon king while moving my C-squad to a facility destroy mission with magnetics/predator armor and a full avatar project bar.

I have ZERO regrets.

hito
Feb 13, 2012

Thank you, kids. By giving us this lift you're giving a lift to every law-abiding citizen in the world.

Shumagorath posted:

Training Centre is great all around but it squares the utility of a good Specialist. Being able to heal and hack with one character even if they're dedicated to e-war or revival is amazing.

Yeah, I think probably the most reliable perk of Training Center is that you can take med and revival protocol on every specialist, then double back for Haywire and Combat on your first specialist to get significant buffs to hacking and have a dedicated anti-robot specialist.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

hito posted:

Yeah, I think probably the most reliable perk of Training Center is that you can take med and revival protocol on every specialist, then double back for Haywire and Combat on your first specialist to get significant buffs to hacking and have a dedicated anti-robot specialist.

Yeah, the other three main classes I either have a straight preference (Ranger and Sharpshooter) and Grenadiers feel 'complete' both ways, but it's really great to be able to make your Specs hacking/healing/scanning jacks of all trades.

Lima
Jun 17, 2012

RBA Starblade posted:

e: I forget how do I get grenades to crit things

Guerilla ops center when you have a captain (or higher?) grenadier.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Ranger would also like Conceal and RunNGun.

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest
Does War of the Chosen affect the early game? Is it the type of expansion where it's all post game content? Considering picking up xcom 2.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

So has anyone else been having this problem where the game crashes while loading the avenger? I have verified files and reinstalled the game and disabled mods and managed to actually load the Avenger once. Just once. When I finished the next mission, it crashed again. Could it be a video driver? I updated my Nvidia driver to try and get past it, but that hasn't helped.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Firstborn posted:

Does War of the Chosen affect the early game? Is it the type of expansion where it's all post game content? Considering picking up xcom 2.

Yes

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Firstborn posted:

Does War of the Chosen affect the early game? Is it the type of expansion where it's all post game content? Considering picking up xcom 2.

It affects literally every part of the game.

aegof
Mar 2, 2011

Firstborn posted:

Does War of the Chosen affect the early game? Is it the type of expansion where it's all post game content? Considering picking up xcom 2.

It dramatically affects the early game. If you turn on the story mission, you get something like an extended tutorial to introduce all the changes (but also locks your choices for a bit). Even without that, there are lots of new mission types and new enemy types and boss enemies and "hero" classes and so on.

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Alchenar posted:

Yeah, the other three main classes I either have a straight preference (Ranger and Sharpshooter) and Grenadiers feel 'complete' both ways, but it's really great to be able to make your Specs hacking/healing/scanning jacks of all trades.

Also you get to combing 'overwatch on attacks' with the largely forgettable 'overwatch fires again 50% of the time' which is a quadratic improvement of better overwatches more often

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Thank you whoever made these characters. They've carried my game.


The clean up crew

temple fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Sep 3, 2017

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes

FuriousGeorge posted:

Does anyone know if I would need to restart my current WotC game if wanted to add Shen's Last Gift? I never got any of the DLC released between the original game and WotC, but Shen's Last Gift looks neat.

I think if you enable it mid-game you won't get the story mission but you can build a Spark in the proving grounds.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Tae posted:

Ranger would also like Conceal and RunNGun.
Cannon-oriented Grenadiers can also pick up double grenades, which is huge. Really I feel like the only underserved class is Sharpshooter. I have a gunslinger who managed to roll Untouchable but I've outright neglected my sniper.

Someone also rolled Lightning Reflexes but I forget who. Might have been the Ranger I've already stacked up to 70+ Dodge.

Firstborn posted:

Does War of the Chosen affect the early game? Is it the type of expansion where it's all post game content? Considering picking up xcom 2.
It has an immediate and revolutionary effect on the pace of the entire game.

marshmallow creep posted:

So has anyone else been having this problem where the game crashes while loading the avenger? I have verified files and reinstalled the game and disabled mods and managed to actually load the Avenger once. Just once. When I finished the next mission, it crashed again. Could it be a video driver? I updated my Nvidia driver to try and get past it, but that hasn't helped.
No, haven't run into that but it sounds really serious. Does the game just vanish-quit or does it do a proper Windows crash? XCOM 2 also has its own crashdump collector that should run.

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Sep 3, 2017

Colapops
Nov 21, 2007

An obsessive reload negatrait almost squadwiped Beagle. That mission was nuts.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Shumagorath posted:

Training Centre is great all around but it squares the utility of a good Specialist. Being able to heal and hack with one character even if they're dedicated to e-war or revival is amazing.

Making sure every specialist has both Revival and Haywire Protocols is for real the first thing anyone should do with the Training Center.

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=
drat, my game has started crashing now. When I restart without restarting my computer I get no sound. I really don't want to have to start a new campaign without these mods (all claim to be WOTC compatible)

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

gonadic io posted:

drat, my game has started crashing now. When I restart without restarting my computer I get no sound. I really don't want to have to start a new campaign without these mods (all claim to be WOTC compatible)

Verify cache always first.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Shumagorath posted:

No, haven't run into that but it sounds really serious. Does the game just vanish-quit or does it do a proper Windows crash? XCOM 2 also has its own crashdump collector that should run.

It does bring up XCom 2's crashdump collector, at least. I just can't figure out what went wrong. It was playing fine until...Thursday night? Hell, it plays fine until it has go between a map and the Avenger. Avenger to map worked okay that one time I got it to work, but then going the other direction killed it again.

marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Sep 3, 2017

Operant
Apr 1, 2010

LET THERE BE NO GENESIS

Robo Turnus posted:

The nanomachine aliens suck huge balls. I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't get the longass move to turn one of my dudes into a robit and then another pretty long move to get away.

Revival protocol kind of trivializes those dudes though. And killing them, which is pretty easy tbh, kills the clone as well as well as reviving your dude if he/she is still down

kater
Nov 16, 2010

I'm kind of shocked there's no built-in flank spotter in WotC.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
Isn't left alt that?

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

kater posted:

I'm kind of shocked there's no built-in flank spotter in WotC.

There is though. It pops up as a tutorial on like your first mission.

Hold alt.

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Finished a play through on veteran just to get familiar with what the game is going to throw at me now and am going to start a "proper" run on Ironman/Commander. I see the advanced option lets me pick which new class I start with first, what do you guys think is the most useful class is early on.

Kin33
Jul 3, 2007

Where is your god now?

Axetrain posted:

Finished a play through on veteran just to get familiar with what the game is going to throw at me now and am going to start a "proper" run on Ironman/Commander. I see the advanced option lets me pick which new class I start with first, what do you guys think is the most useful class is early on.

I like the reaper for high level ranger scouting right out of the gate. If you don't think you need that then I would go Templar.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013

Amuys posted:

I find it funny that Shieldbearers actually provide a shield for non-activated VIPs.

I was collecting a VIP when the Warlock showed. He took a position behind the truck that the VIP was trapped in, making me very reluctant to shower him with grenades. On his second turn, he used 'Teleport Ally' to pull the VIP out of the truck and drop her in cover amongst my squad.

Thanks guy!

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Well, looks like my layout is ruined. I need a second power relay if I want to make enough contacts to even see the Warlock, let alone hit all the currently running facilities. To build on a second coil I need to scrap my Shadow Chamber then scrap my Lab to rebuilt that. I have engineers to spare so maybe I can get away with building the second power relay off in the corner; the difference is only +2.

I could let the next retaliation go in hopes it doesn't wipe out anything in North America, but gently caress that I'm not a monster.

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Sep 3, 2017

GuardianOfAsgaard
Feb 1, 2012

Their steel shines red
With enemy blood
It sings of victory
Granted by the Gods

Zore posted:

There is though. It pops up as a tutorial on like your first mission.

Hold alt.

You can turn it on permanently in the options as well, which is definitely worth doing.

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug
why arent my eyebrow colors changing in the character creator

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!
Yeah, I don't understand why target preview isn't on by default in the options. Switch on, never look back.

ditty bout my clitty posted:

I did it, I turned off the alien rulers DLC after encountering the archon king while moving my C-squad to a facility destroy mission with magnetics/predator armor and a full avatar project bar.

I have ZERO regrets.

No, no. Turn it on but don't integrate it. Then you get the cool weapons for free immediately and just ignore the nest mission forever. :lol:

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

MotU posted:

why arent my eyebrow colors changing in the character creator

Advent gene tampering

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Fintilgin posted:

Yeah, I don't understand why target preview isn't on by default in the options. Switch on, never look back.


No, no. Turn it on but don't integrate it. Then you get the cool weapons for free immediately and just ignore the nest mission forever. :lol:

You can't upgrade them if you ignore The Nest though.

Which makes them quickly pretty useless outside the Frost Bomb

Asehujiko
Apr 6, 2011
Reaper with banish, superior expanded magazine, superior scope and superior repeater and the order to empower weapon mods should give me a 100*1-0.8^8=83% chance to instantly gently caress up whatever I decide to magdump on given I can get close enough for 100% hit chance, correct? Please confirm/deny that the game lets me do this, Archon King is lurking at my next facility.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
Does Banish count as one shot for actions though? Or is he gonna get an action for each shot from banish? I seem to remember Rulers getting an action between the shots of either Chain shot or Dual strike.

SmallpoxJenkins
Jul 9, 2012


Friendly advice: Arc wave does NOT have friendly fire.
So if one of your guys is in the middle of some poo poo, just fire away.

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MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

Internet Kraken posted:

Advent gene tampering

no for real is there just only 1 eyebrow color or is this a bug or what

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