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I personally find questions of poetic translation more interesting than prose. How to translate Dante is practically it's own field
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Heath posted:I think it's very interesting
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Sep 3, 2017 19:28
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Just finished reading This Earth of Mankind and theres this interesting bit where the main character (a writer) is admonished by his mother for writing in Dutch and not his native javanese but he claims he doesn't know how to write beautifully in Javanese, only in Dutch, despite being a native speaker
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Sep 3, 2017 19:29
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I wonder what ee cummings looks like in translation
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Sep 3, 2017 19:35
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many years ago i tried to practice dutch at some touristy place in amsterdam (the rijksmuseum maybe?) and the ticket clerk admonished me in english "why are you trying to learn dutch, english is much more useful" and i've taken that lesson to heart ever since.
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Sep 3, 2017 19:40
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I wonder what ee cummings looks like in translation 40 klusums .ir p utns kas:lūk ojas mūsos pa griež;tas dzīvei, sānu (sastopamies pirms sniega
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Sep 3, 2017 19:41
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it's a different poem, basically, i think the meaning is quite different here's the literal word-by-word translation back to english with the original English underneath code:code:Burning Rain fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Sep 3, 2017 |
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Sep 3, 2017 19:49
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I wonder what ee cummings looks like in translation What's the point? Everybody speaks English anyway.
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Sep 3, 2017 20:20
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lol if you haven't read the untranslated journey to the west
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Sep 3, 2017 20:30
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lol if you haven't read the extant linear a inscriptions
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Sep 3, 2017 20:35
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Burning Rain posted:40 In particular I am more interested in romance languages since the grammatical structure is much different
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Sep 3, 2017 20:53
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I'm pretty sure English grammar is more similar to that of any Romance language than to that of Latvian
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Sep 3, 2017 20:58
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Ras Het posted:I'm pretty sure English grammar is more similar to that of any Romance language than to that of Latvian Actually I just looked up the grammatical breakdown and Latvian has more in common with Romance languages than it does with English. It even shares a few pronouns. I never realized Baltic languages had a similar form of tense conjugation through suffixes, I assumed it would have borrowed more heavily from Germanic grammar.
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Sep 3, 2017 21:04
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It's good that you're interested in language but it sounds like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
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Sep 3, 2017 21:11
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Ras Het posted:It's good that you're interested in language but it sounds like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about thanks Ras Het, noted linguist
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Sep 3, 2017 21:13
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English and Romance languages have much more in common with each other than with Baltic languages tbh. so much so that for us it might make sense to learn spanish via english, if you speak it well, as the sentence structures, use of articles, etc. are much more alike
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Burning Rain posted:English and Romance languages have much more in common with each other than with Baltic languages tbh. so much so that for us it might make sense to learn spanish via english, if you speak it well, as the sentence structures, use of articles, etc. are much more alike Fair, but I was admittedly looking primarily at verb conjugation For example, the imperative tense clearly works under a grammatical model closer to romance than germanic. pre:es tu viņš / viņa mēs jūs viņi / viņas present lasu lasi lasa lasām lasāt lasa past lasīju lasīji lasīja lasījām lasījāt lasīja future lasīšu lasīsi lasīs lasīsim lasīsiet lasīs Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Sep 3, 2017 |
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Sep 3, 2017 21:16
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no man can stay my hand as i complete my fell quest to murder the duolingo owl.
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Sep 3, 2017 21:27
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You guys are reading texts? Upgrade to telepathy you loving plebes
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Sep 3, 2017 21:36
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Tree Goat posted:no man can stay my hand as i complete my fell quest to murder the duolingo owl. His name is Duo and his golden tracksuit makes him immortal
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Sep 3, 2017 21:37
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Tree Goat posted:many years ago i tried to practice dutch at some touristy place in amsterdam (the rijksmuseum maybe?) and the ticket clerk admonished me in english "why are you trying to learn dutch, english is much more useful" and i've taken that lesson to heart ever since. That's a very Amsterdam thing. The default language for most service industry people there is English. They will respond to you English even if you're a native Dutch speaker speaking Dutch to them. This is not representative of the rest of the Netherlands and Flanders.
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Sep 3, 2017 21:46
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Tree Goat posted:no man can stay my hand as i complete my fell quest to murder the duolingo owl. Good luck.
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Sep 4, 2017 02:52
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i only read books that feature a silhouetted man running down an alley on the cover. they can be pasted into google translate if needed
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Sep 4, 2017 21:33
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I picked up The Book of Disquiet again. I bought it a few years ago and had to put it down because it was hitting close to home in an uncomfortable way. The book straddles this weird line between being crushingly sad and optimistic but melancholy.
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Sep 4, 2017 21:42
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Wow. They're going to translate the remaining six volumes of Solzhenitsyn's The Red Wheel. We got the first three volumes in the 70s and 80s, and it didn't look like we were going to get the rest. But apparently an anonymous donor is making it possible, and the next book comes out in November. Great news. Source: https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2017/aug/22/solzhenitsyn-russian-revolution-epic-novel-the-red-wheel-complete-english-translation
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Heath posted:I picked up The Book of Disquiet again. I bought it a few years ago and had to put it down because it was hitting close to home in an uncomfortable way. The book straddles this weird line between being crushingly sad and optimistic but melancholy. it just got a writeup in the New Yorker
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Sep 5, 2017 05:42
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I'm finishing Oblomov and I've liked all the parts where Oblomov stares at the ceiling hoping he wouldn't have to get up, but all of the "courting" scenes between various characters are insanely pointless and long and dumb and this book hasn't aged well
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Sep 5, 2017 08:48
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What translation of Oblomov?
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Sep 5, 2017 08:57
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Sir John Feelgood posted:What translation of Oblomov? The Penguin Classics one from the 50s
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Sep 5, 2017 09:17
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i was gonna ask if there was a non fiction thread but then i found that there is a non fiction thread but the last post is from nearly a year ago and so what is actually the point of having a non fiction thread?
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Sep 5, 2017 09:24
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Ras Het posted:The Penguin Classics one from the 50s
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Sep 5, 2017 09:30
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Sir John Feelgood posted:McDuff? Edit: I mean, Magarshack? Yeah Magarshack
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Sep 5, 2017 09:54
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fridge corn posted:i was gonna ask if there was a non fiction thread but then i found that there is a non fiction thread but the last post is from nearly a year ago and so what is actually the point of having a non fiction thread? Good threads about cool things always die see also poetry thread and hermeticism thread which are basicazlly the only 2 good threads that have ever been on this forum except maybe the Salinger thread
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fridge corn posted:i was gonna ask if there was a non fiction thread but then i found that there is a non fiction thread but the last post is from nearly a year ago and so what is actually the point of having a non fiction thread? it's not like this drat forum has any taste in non fiction either
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Sep 5, 2017 11:56
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Magarshack is a great translator.
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Sep 5, 2017 14:59
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A human heart posted:it's not like this drat forum has any taste in non fiction either Need a quit being a loving child and read some real non-fiction thread
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Sep 5, 2017 16:34
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maybe quit being a manchild and accept that people enjoy things other than the exact things you enjoy
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Sep 5, 2017 17:40
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oops nvm sorry im impeding the spirit of the thread. good day 
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Sep 5, 2017 17:41
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derp posted:maybe quit being a manchild and accept that people enjoy things other than the exact things you enjoy 
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I am the measure of all things.
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