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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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"laff"

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brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!

ate all the Oreos posted:

ICP actually has pretty good opinions on a lot of things and while I'm not gonna stop laffing at weirdos in clown makeup their heart seems to be in the right place :shrug:

I remember someone linked me some ICP lyrics back when they declared their march on washington to protest trump and they were like, bizarrely woke??

They are allies against fascists and white supremacists, as it turns out.

That they were declared a gang by DHS is also super lovely.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMJsqXzz5zs

Dogcow
Jun 21, 2005


Consider this your reminder that BoJack Horseman season 4 is out on next week on Netflix which is about a horse who is also a man and a sitcom actor in the 80s who spent most of his money on drugs. It's reverse meta BWM thread.

Dogcow fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Sep 3, 2017

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*


The Pornographer
8 months ago
this video is so relaxing
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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Huh, I always thought horses slept standing up for some reason. I learned something today.

Hoodwinker
Nov 7, 2005

Solice Kirsk posted:

Huh, I always thought horses slept standing up for some reason. I learned something today.
That's supposed to be cows, isn't it?

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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I don't think either of them really sleep standing up. But horses lay eggs the size of basketballs and a baby horse is called a kid. I know that.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Many people train their horses to sleep standing up because a horse that wakes up laying down may be confused and think it has died, causing it to die.

Hoodwinker
Nov 7, 2005

Ashcans posted:

Many people train their horses to sleep standing up because a horse that wakes up laying down may be confused and think it has died, causing it to die.
Assuming it doesn't dream of ants first.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

ate all the Oreos posted:

I probably should have put "**** wallet" in quotes because I was just mirroring the original phrasing, I didn't actually mean to ask for details on the wallet other than where it is.


Are you talking about me or someone else? Because I'd say I have a pretty good understanding of it, I've read the bitcoin whitepaper and laffed at the bitcoin thread for like, geez, 4 years now?

Still why would you ask him to identify even which exchange it was on? He can't disclose customer information and you are kind of being a dork by asking him to.

Also ICP/juggalos are not good just because they aren't down with the alt-right. What is wrong with you people?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
[quote="“therobit”" post="“476027564”"]
Still why would you ask him to identify even which exchange it was on? He can’t disclose customer information and you are kind of being a dork by asking him to.

Also ICP/juggalos are not good just because they aren’t down with the alt-right. What is wrong with you people?
[/quote]

No, it’s cool - they don’t like fascists either. They totally deserve a seat at the Star Chamber.

As they spill Fa-go all over the fancy conference table

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009
The vast majority of people have the need to feel like they belong somewhere, to something. People who aren't smart/rich/cultured/etc still need something to be a part of. People of color widely have communities based on shared ethnic and cultural heritage, but for somewhat obvious reason it's bad when white people do that. There aren't a lot of communities for people in that situation to be a part of, and ICP fandom is, given the people they're attracting, probably the best conceivable version of a community for white people at the bottom of the economic and cultural heap to get behind. It's not that they don't have problems, but their problems, when compared to the alternative of people who would probably otherwise end up in the Klan or something similar, are pretty benign. The fact that ICP exists is weirdly a pretty strong net benefit to society for the same reason that it's a net positive that section 8 housing exists: people need somewhere to live. It's not that hard to understand. They're real easy to poo poo on, because they're poor rural white people with an average IQ of 85, probably due to FAS and developmental lead poisoning, but you shouldn't poo poo on them, because they've organized into a community that is explicitly inclusive and is at least making attempts at tamping down problematic elements of their subculture.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Bunch of people want to get together over a shared love of drugs and terrible music.

This isn't that weird

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Business, Finance, and Careers › Bad With Money: ICO/ICP, whatever it takes

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Solice Kirsk posted:

Huh, I always thought horses slept standing up for some reason. I learned something today.

Most of their sleeping is done standing up, being prey animals and all. They lay down like that if they feel safe enough for REM sleep which they do require regularly. They will go even more nuts than usual from REM sleep deprivation if they are in a situation where they don't feel safe enough to do it an extended period of time.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

therobit posted:

Still why would you ask him to identify even which exchange it was on? He can't disclose customer information and you are kind of being a dork by asking him to.

I mean I'm not asking him to anymore at this point I'm just clearing up my phrasing to clarify what I meant re wallet vs "Wallet" vs exchange. I acknowledge all that, c'mon

therobit posted:

Also ICP/juggalos are not good just because they aren't down with the alt-right. What is wrong with you people?

I'm not saying to go listen to them or even stop making fun of them or anything, it's just they're not terrible people apparently :shrug:

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe
There are more details of the mortgage credit tightening in New Zealand. House sales going to 65% of the previous quantity and lending being about 70% of the monthly amount show an obvious change that is affecting prices. We've gone from an environment where just about any house put on the market would sell quickly to people just not having the finance. The headline leading into the article shows the banks are looking closely at people buying houses with 30 year mortgages where the last payment would be past retirement age. In Auckland the average time to save a deposit is around 10 years then you have to borrow a lot ($800k to $900k) on 30 year repayment. Of course banks are refusing to lend most buyers large sums approaching $1m.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/96401149/banks-tighten-home-lending-for-older-borrowers

What I'm also hearing from inside banks is the number of people that are in trouble with their payments or are applying for loans for consumption and having them turned down. There was a lot of borrow to spend activity going on over the past 2-3 years (maybe longer). Everything has changed as mortgagee sales were rare and now there are numerous mortgagee sales and those desperate to sell prior to the bank selling the property for them.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Devian666 posted:

Of course banks are refusing to lend most buyers large sums approaching $1m.

Amateurs. :canada:

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

ate all the Oreos posted:

I'm not saying to go listen to them or even stop making fun of them or anything, it's just they're not terrible people apparently :shrug:

I think they DO spend a lot of time talking about attacking people with hatchets.


Also holy poo poo, how long is their loving wikipedia page?

John Smith
Feb 26, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

TheQuietWilds posted:

People of color widely have communities based on shared ethnic and cultural heritage, but for somewhat obvious reason it's bad when white people do that.
Disagree. It is very common for Chinese people to set up Clan associations once our people reach a new land. I see no reason why white people are not similarly entitled to set up cultural institutions centred around their common heritage.

It is one thing to be against neo-Nazis, it is quite another to be pre-emptively against all white cultural / racial associations for no reason other than it feeling awkward. Stinks of guilt by association, and indirect association at that. Perhaps part of why white angry people are angry is precisely because of this?

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Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


1) gently caress you

2) 'white people' isn't a clan (unless you mean :heritage:, you stupid motherfucker)

3) polish/german/greek/italian/etc groups are pretty ubiquitous and pop up all the time without issue and are generally enjoyed by wider communities at large because they're legit cultural institutions as opposed to white nationalist bullshit which strangely revolves around gassing fags and kikes, dumbass

4) gently caress you

e. gently caress your disingenuous bad faith arguments

Guest2553 fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Sep 4, 2017

ohgodwhat
Aug 6, 2005

Cultural institutions/associations for white people would be society

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009

John Smith posted:

Disagree. It is very common for Chinese people to set up Clan associations once our people reach a new land. I see no reason why white people are not similarly entitled to set up cultural institutions centred around their common heritage.

It is one thing to be against neo-Nazis, it is quite another to be pre-emptively against all white cultural / racial associations for no reason other than it feeling awkward. Stinks of guilt by association, and indirect association at that. Perhaps part of why white angry people are angry is precisely because of this?

Beyond the objection that White isn't either an ethnicity or a race, which is relevant (although 'Chinese' has similar issues), white-people only clubs are bad in the US for the same reason why having a "Ethnic Chinese" club in a major Chinese city would be bad but having an American/European ex-pat group in China wouldn't be a huge problem. Power imbalances between minority and majority groups make majority-only groups a method for excluding minorities from opportunity, resources and important social connections.

E: Lol, common

John Smith
Feb 26, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Guest2553 posted:

2) 'white people' isn't a clan (unless you mean :heritage:, you stupid motherfucker)
Dude, are you loving kidding me? I literally said I am racially Chinese, and that that is our name for these institutions. You must be on drugs to jump from there to the KKK. You must have some serious personal issues to be so butthurt...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_clan_association



TheQuietWilds posted:

Beyond the objection that White isn't either an ethnicity or a race, which is relevant (although 'Chinese' has similar issues), white-people only clubs are bad in the US for the same reason why having a "Ethnic Chinese" club in a major Chinese city would be bad but having an American/European ex-pat group in China wouldn't be a huge problem. Power imbalances between minority and majority groups make majority-only groups a method for excluding minorities from opportunity, resources and important social connections.

E: Lol, common
It is our cultural tradition to segment these Clan associations by the specific province our forefathers came from, hence the term "Clan". So, yes, you are indeed correct that it is less common (?) to have an overarching Chinese association. Although it is quite common for the clan associations to join together in a loose federation of sorts (not speaking for all the Chinese in the world).

Yes, but that is my point. They are not guilty of anything, and yet it is presumptively judged that they are up to ill intentions. Can you not see why it seems unfair that it is acceptable for me to join a Clan association, but unacceptable for Tommy to join his equivalent?

John Smith fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Sep 4, 2017

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
Cut the D&D poo poo


Please :3:

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
That bitcoin wallet find is exhilarating. Holding a speculative position with funny money that goes 4x is fun enough, but can you imagine if your position went from "a used car" to "2.5x 'gently caress-you' money" at age 35? Plus it's been long enough that his tax rate on this sale is going to be LTCG, it's like a 25% bonus versus if he'd won this same amount in a lottery ticket.

I wonder if he's going to liquidate the whole position (I wouldn't) or just diversify it down so that his BTC is only 10% of his remaining net worth?

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

That bitcoin wallet find is exhilarating. Holding a speculative position with funny money that goes 4x is fun enough, but can you imagine if your position went from "a used car" to "2.5x 'gently caress-you' money" at age 35? Plus it's been long enough that his tax rate on this sale is going to be LTCG, it's like a 25% bonus versus if he'd won this same amount in a lottery ticket.

I wonder if he's going to liquidate the whole position (I wouldn't) or just diversify it down so that his BTC is only 10% of his remaining net worth?

What, gently caress that, he should liquidate as much as he can before it disappears. Which, given btc, could be after he gets it all out or it could be tomorrow.

Ralith
Jan 12, 2011

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

That bitcoin wallet find is exhilarating. Holding a speculative position with funny money that goes 4x is fun enough, but can you imagine if your position went from "a used car" to "2.5x 'gently caress-you' money" at age 35? Plus it's been long enough that his tax rate on this sale is going to be LTCG, it's like a 25% bonus versus if he'd won this same amount in a lottery ticket.

I wonder if he's going to liquidate the whole position (I wouldn't) or just diversify it down so that his BTC is only 10% of his remaining net worth?
Is BTC 10% of your net worth? If not, why do you think it should be of his?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Ralith posted:

Is BTC 10% of your net worth? If not, why do you think it should be of his?

We're in the laughing at bad finance decisions thread, for one

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009
"Content generation" Id imagine

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
My crypto holdings are approximately 1% of my net worth, varying depending on the market price.

I think it should be a much higher percentage of this guy's portfolio, and I'll justify why: this guy has more money than he ever had any idea he would have, and has been living a presumably frugal existence devoid of the untold riches that this could bring his way. Bitcoin is still a speculative asset with enormous variability of what it's probably worth. I don't think anyone really knows what this asset is worth (lol buttcoin), and I definitely think he should liquidate enough that he'll never have to worry about money again (90% of his position would do quite nicely). But given that he's young and probably has some appetite for risk, I don't think it's an entirely stupid idea to hold on to 10% of that position for the possibility that a bitcoin is worth $10,000 or $20,000 or $100,000 or $1,000,000.

It's an asset that's treated him quite richly so far, and he's shown his ability to hold onto it and forget about it while playing a long, long position.

If I had a net worth 5 times what we have now, I might have crypto as 10% of my portfolio instead of 1%, but I think it's a foolish decision not to hold some.

Hoodwinker
Nov 7, 2005

Since cryptos almost unilaterally took a massive dive in the last 24 hours at a whiff of instability, maybe, uh, don't put money into something as substantial as a butterfly's fart.

Noctone
Oct 25, 2005

XO til we overdose..

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

My crypto holdings are approximately 1% of my net worth, varying depending on the market price.

I think it should be a much higher percentage of this guy's portfolio, and I'll justify why: this guy has more money than he ever had any idea he would have, and has been living a presumably frugal existence devoid of the untold riches that this could bring his way. Bitcoin is still a speculative asset with enormous variability of what it's probably worth. I don't think anyone really knows what this asset is worth (lol buttcoin), and I definitely think he should liquidate enough that he'll never have to worry about money again (90% of his position would do quite nicely). But given that he's young and probably has some appetite for risk, I don't think it's an entirely stupid idea to hold on to 10% of that position for the possibility that a bitcoin is worth $10,000 or $20,000 or $100,000 or $1,000,000.

It's an asset that's treated him quite richly so far, and he's shown his ability to hold onto it and forget about it while playing a long, long position.

If I had a net worth 5 times what we have now, I might have crypto as 10% of my portfolio instead of 1%, but I think it's a foolish decision not to hold some.

lol no. If you win the Powerball you don't dump 10% of your winnings into buying more tickets.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

My crypto holdings are approximately 1% of my net worth, varying depending on the market price.

I think it should be a much higher percentage of this guy's portfolio, and I'll justify why: this guy has more money than he ever had any idea he would have, and has been living a presumably frugal existence devoid of the untold riches that this could bring his way. Bitcoin is still a speculative asset with enormous variability of what it's probably worth. I don't think anyone really knows what this asset is worth (lol buttcoin), and I definitely think he should liquidate enough that he'll never have to worry about money again (90% of his position would do quite nicely). But given that he's young and probably has some appetite for risk, I don't think it's an entirely stupid idea to hold on to 10% of that position for the possibility that a bitcoin is worth $10,000 or $20,000 or $100,000 or $1,000,000.

It's an asset that's treated him quite richly so far, and he's shown his ability to hold onto it and forget about it while playing a long, long position.

If I had a net worth 5 times what we have now, I might have crypto as 10% of my portfolio instead of 1%, but I think it's a foolish decision not to hold some.

BWM coming from inside the thread now.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost

Krispy Kareem posted:

This guy sounds like someone I knew in High School. What was his mother's maiden name again? And his first dog...starts with a Sssssssomething....Sppppaniel?

You're way off. It's Samsonite.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Vox Nihili posted:

BWM coming from inside the thread now.

Nah if you're high net worth and not dependent on the money I think it's fine to do some weird high risk poo poo with a small fraction of assets.

Noctone
Oct 25, 2005

XO til we overdose..

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Nah if you're high net worth and not dependent on the money I think it's fine to do some weird high risk poo poo with a small fraction of assets.

Fine to do? Sure, maybe. Foolish not to do? gently caress no.

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
This is by all estimates a pretty clear edge case so let's get back to bashing lower middle class whites spending beyond their means and "budgeting" revolving around horse equity.

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Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
I'll get you close.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6y1hx4/i_will_buy_10_of_bitcoin_everyday_instead_of_my/ posted:

I will buy 10$ of bitcoin every day instead of my daily cigarettes !

Sounds the greatest idea i've ever had ! Please wish me good luck (i know it is gonna be hard but maybe i'll get rich before my 30)


top response posted:

worst case scenario, you lose your investments and you live healthily ever after

He's right in that he's no longer trying to actively kill himself :unsmith:

He's probably going to buy cigarettes AND bitcoin though in a week. :smith:

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