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Neeksy posted:Any time I see something about the Liberal party, I can't take it seriously because their dumb logo looks so much like a dildo. We're all liberal here friend  I'd still argue it's better than KD's new logotype for at least being memorable.
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Poil posted:I'll put it this way, some people should get kicked out of Europe. Preferably into the sea. Tied to massive lego bricks made out of concrete.
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Collateral Damage posted:I agree, but who would take their seats in government? Poil fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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Sep 4, 2017 07:36
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Build lifesize lego statues of said scumbags and put those in the vacated seats, then see how long it takes before anybody notices.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Build lifesize lego statues of said scumbags and put those in the vacated seats, then see how long it takes before anybody notices. If you attach a loudspeaker that bleets "deport everyone integrate noone" on repeat - never.
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http://www.dn.se/ekonomi/nordea-flyttar-huvudkontoret-till-finland/quote:Storbanken Nordea flyttar huvudkontoret från Stockholm till Finland. Good riddance. Have fun bearing the ramifications of our housing bubble Finland as one of our largest and historically most incompetent and corrupt banks becomes your burden. God did you gently caress up in joining the Eurozone.
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Sep 6, 2017 16:29
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It's also one of our largest and historically most incompetent banks!
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Sep 7, 2017 09:13
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lmao were loving over finland once again
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Sep 7, 2017 10:04
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Well, I voted and am now waiting to get owned by the populist right-wing surge 
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Sep 7, 2017 19:19
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RIP Syndrome posted:Well, I voted and am now waiting to get owned by the populist right-wing surge Is it really that much of a surge though? I mean FrP was bigger some 10 years ago than they can hope to be today, and they polled even better.
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Randarkman posted:Is it really that much of a surge though? I mean FrP was bigger some 10 years ago than they can hope to be today, and they polled even better. That's true, I was being facetious. It's more like there's a (probably deserved) downwards surge for Ap, so I'm tempering my hopes for a nominally left-wing government. Plus I trust polls less than I used to. (Edit: I didn't vote for Ap, and wouldn't consider doing it strategically either. IMO they should collaborate to the left if they have to, and getting small parties above the election threshold is a strategy too). RIP Syndrome fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Sep 7, 2017 21:35
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Voted V in the name of a higher cause. Now i am a filthy liberal too.
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What higher cause is that? Yelling over and over again that this time FRP have definitely gone too far, but back out and support them anyway?
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gently caress all the unions and let's stroke Listhaug's hate-boner for another four years? Holy hell do I hope we can throw all these assholes out of government come next week. Feel the Bjørn Government Handjob fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Sep 8, 2017 |
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Sep 8, 2017 06:24
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I wish the bigger parties cared more about climate change and changing to a greener industry so I didn't have to feel I need to vote for MDG
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Baudolino posted:Voted V in the name of a higher cause. Now i am a filthy liberal too. Try harder.
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Not a viking posted:I wish the bigger parties cared more about climate change and changing to a greener industry so I didn't have to feel I need to vote for MDG MDG don't have any good solutions either.
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Sep 8, 2017 07:21
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Condoleezza Nice! posted:MDG don't have any good solutions either. Interestingly enough, Rødt kind of has since economics and environment are heavily interlinked. Hell, just the free public transport idea would be a major emissions cut in real terms as people left their car at home. Better-flowing traffic too. Also, Rødt really is all-in on environmentally friendly policies, the most important of which is just no more oil drilling. We have to get off oil. I can't see a single reason to vote for MDG that wouldn't also be true for Rødt. Also, Government Handjob posted:Feel the Bjørn
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Nice piece of fish posted:True words Honestly, MDG should stop trying appeal to the right wing, not a one of the parties right of Labor are even remotely interested in getting out of oil, and most of the labor/center/right voters are ridiculously hostile towards them. With how much of MDGs politics are left leaning they should just say gently caress it, embrace socialism and merge with Rødt.
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https://youtu.be/4ICG77lGkE8 If you only watch one debate this election, make it this one
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Sep 8, 2017 10:41
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The only green policies the big parties go for these days are the comfortable ones, the ones where we don't have to give up any luxuries or money. I don't see that changing before disasters start happening to us. It's all weak, ineffective poo poo that will do little or no good, other than make us feel better. It's mostly on the individual level too, which is not where most of the emissions are. Example: electric cars. (which I'm all for, btw)
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Government Handjob posted:Honestly, MDG should stop trying appeal to the right wing, not a one of the parties right of Labor are even remotely interested in getting out of oil, and most of the labor/center/right voters are ridiculously hostile towards them. I guess it's a sort of bid towards centrism, as in MDG think they can siphon off voters from the right wing that really care about environmental issues? It's a classic mistake, in my opinion, to think that the group this applies to is A: In any way, shape or form an appreciable amount of voters and B: actually willing to vote MDG over this single issue as compared to every other issue they agree with the right wing on. There's not enough of them and they don't give a poo poo when it comes right down to it. I'd love to see statistics about their membership and exactly where their vote growth is coming from. I'd be very surprised if it's mainly FRP or H voters. The fact remains though, that you can't have an realistic - and real - environmental policy that is compatible with consumerist, market liberalist ideology and continued reliance on fossil fuels. It's just  to even entertain that thought. It can't be done. Consumerism and ~*infinite growth*~ is incompatible with a sustainable society with our current and future technology, it's basic loving physics and we knew this way back in the eighties. It breaks down real simple: You can't fight global warming without fighting consumerism, you can't fight consumerism without fighting market-liberalist late stage capitalism, you can't fight market-liberalist late stage capitalism without fighting the rich who very much want the system to stay, no matter what they say out loud.Eat the rich, it's enviro-conscious food.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Det haster å avvikle kapitalismen som økonomisk system!
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Nice piece of fish posted:I guess it's a sort of bid towards centrism, as in MDG think they can siphon off voters from the right wing that really care about environmental issues? It's a classic mistake, in my opinion, to think that the group this applies to is A: In any way, shape or form an appreciable amount of voters and B: actually willing to vote MDG over this single issue as compared to every other issue they agree with the right wing on. There's not enough of them and they don't give a poo poo when it comes right down to it. It worked for MP in Sweden, until they changed party leaders and reoriented left and went from a 10% party (never in an election) to a 4%. MP at their height applied to liberal-green middle class voters in larger cities. FrP or H are not going to lose voters to MDG, but I would assume more liberal center parties would (like for example C and L) in Sweden.
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You'd call Fridolin's MP left? The party is just as centre as it was in 2010, it's just being led by an idiot who can't help himself from stuffing his foot up his own rear end.
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Nice piece of fish posted:I guess it's a sort of bid towards centrism, as in MDG think they can siphon off voters from the right wing that really care about environmental issues? It's a classic mistake, in my opinion, to think that the group this applies to is A: In any way, shape or form an appreciable amount of voters and B: actually willing to vote MDG over this single issue as compared to every other issue they agree with the right wing on. There's not enough of them and they don't give a poo poo when it comes right down to it. It's why I refuse to vote for them, they got some good environmental policy but the rest is garbage and as you said previously, both the Reds and the Socialist Left have good environmental policies which they mix with good labour/economic policies. I have zero interest in voting for a party that could join up with the center or conservative block.
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Condoleezza Nice! posted:MDG don't have any good solutions either. Anything is better than "pump more oil!" E: that said, luckily they aren't the only ones who want to stop pumping
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Not a viking posted:Anything is better than "pump more oil!" True, but Ap, Sp, (KrF?) H and FrP all want to continue straight ahead at full speed.
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Whatever happens -- we gonna pump oil till the Devil come, suck this fucker dry, and then the Arctic too. Pension fund will be gambled away by a rogue trader/used to plug budget holes left by tax cuts for corps and the 1%/rendered worthless by financial collapse and expropriation of our ill-gotten foreign assets/just kind of do nothing because we can't use it domestically without causing massive inflation.
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RIP Syndrome posted:Whatever happens -- we gonna pump oil till the Devil come, suck this fucker dry, and then the Arctic too. Pension fund will be gambled away by a rogue trader/used to plug budget holes left by tax cuts for corps and the 1%/rendered worthless by financial collapse and expropriation of our ill-gotten foreign assets/just kind of do nothing because we can't use it domestically without causing massive inflation. Stop it, you time-travelling rear end in a top hat! I want to maintain my illusions a while longer. No spoilers ITT god damnit!
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Nice piece of fish posted:Stop it, you time-travelling rear end in a top hat! I want to maintain my illusions a while longer. No spoilers ITT god damnit! 
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RIP Syndrome posted:Whatever happens -- we gonna pump oil till the Devil come, suck this fucker dry, and then the Arctic too. Pension fund will be gambled away by a rogue trader/used to plug budget holes left by tax cuts for corps and the 1%/rendered worthless by financial collapse and expropriation of our ill-gotten foreign assets/just kind of do nothing because we can't use it domestically without causing massive inflation. Join the Euro, we could use some inflation over here.
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doverhog posted:Join the Euro, we could use some inflation over here. Why would we want to use your mickey mouse money?
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Sep 8, 2017 19:27
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To avoid your oil inflation problems, duh. It was all in the first post.
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doverhog posted:To avoid your oil inflation problems, duh. It was all in the first post. I think we're already helping inflate your asset bubbles. That good enough?
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Look dude, RIP Syndrome is the one who complained about "we can't use it domestically without causing massive inflation", I was just trying to help. 
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Nice piece of fish posted:Interestingly enough, Rødt kind of has since economics and environment are heavily interlinked. Hell, just the free public transport idea would be a major emissions cut in real terms as people left their car at home. Better-flowing traffic too. Also, Rødt really is all-in on environmentally friendly policies, the most important of which is just no more oil drilling. We have to get off oil. Exactly. Bjørnie for prez
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Biomute posted:Try harder. It was very hard to do. I am going to need a four year break first.
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Siv Jensen has become like some kind of shadow leader or something over here on the northwestern coast, Listhaug is the only FRPer whose statements and appearances and opinions get paraded around everywhere, it's kinda weird. Maybe I'm overestimating the difference in exposure but it's seriously gotten to the point that I temporarily stopped disliking Siv Jensen this past week because I almost forgot she existed at all. I'd love it if this strategy backfired on FRP, but for now an FRP civil-war is only a beautiful dream of far-flung futures.
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Insurrectionist posted:Siv Jensen has become like some kind of shadow leader or something over here on the northwestern coast, Listhaug is the only FRPer whose statements and appearances and opinions get paraded around everywhere, it's kinda weird. Maybe I'm overestimating the difference in exposure but it's seriously gotten to the point that I temporarily stopped disliking Siv Jensen this past week because I almost forgot she existed at all. I'd love it if this strategy backfired on FRP, but for now an FRP civil-war is only a beautiful dream of far-flung futures. 
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