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Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?
An email came in:

quote:

Subject: My password for [software that has 3 different instances, with no sync'd password] is not working please send me a temp one so that I can log on and change to new password

Body: Thanks see subject for issue

Gee, thanks. Which version is your password not working for. Also DON'T PUT EVERYTHING IN THE SUBJECT. God drat that pisses me off. At the very least copy and paste from subject to body.

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nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Here you can watch 3 hours and 47 minutes of a printer working hard and a shredder constantly jamming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXwb_7DdZeQ

Perhaps the best use of a printer I have ever seen.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

nielsm posted:

Here you can watch 3 hours and 47 minutes of a printer working hard and a shredder constantly jamming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXwb_7DdZeQ

Perhaps the best use of a printer I have ever seen.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


The printer should print directly into a shredder and then the video ends with the printer and shredder themselves being put into a larger shredder.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT
So I'm loving my new job and the fact that it's more organized, everyone is cool, and I feel like I've been there for years even though it's been less than 60 days. Better pay, no on call duties, I can dictate what (if any) work I do after hours, and I actually get compensated for overtime!

Anyhow, I got a small card in the mail from the CEO of my last job, basically talking about how they "knew I worked hard" and "appreciated all the time and effort I put in" and said to feel free to come back and visit the office sometime. This was the same CEO that, over the last 2 years, would literally talk trash behind peoples' backs in email after they'd quit. Usually it was some snarky garbage about how "they couldn't handle the pressure/workload" or "they weren't cut out for the MSP business." Every person that left ended up quitting for the same reason - lovely management, non-existent work/life balance, below-market wages, and being plain burned out because management dragged their feet hiring anyone.

I chuckled and threw the card in the trash. I left for a reason, and that idiot was the biggest one. When I can leave their poorly run MSP and get a job for a solid 20% increase in pay where I do less work, there's a serious problem with how the company is being "managed".

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Malek posted:

This ^

If the channel had "This is a parody tech channel" on the front or in the name. Cool. But giving bad advice to people while faking being an authority figure is a dick move. I'd be walked out (and laughed out) of my current job if I told a customer to stripe 3 RAID-5 arrays then software chain a RAID-0 across those 3 RAIDs for their business as "best practice for maximum redundancy and speed."

So on a scale of 1 to 10 how terribly bad is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brdmnUBAS00

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

So on a scale of 1 to 10 how terribly bad is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brdmnUBAS00

That is a 10 because it is a parody channel.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Anyone remember the one that was sorta like How To Basic, where he shows how to remove a heat sink from a CPU, and he just ends up using a hammer?

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club

SEKCobra posted:

IDK, my problem with Linus is his pretending to be scientific and acting like he is an authority on things when just about everything that company produces is SO loving WRONG.

I have never seen them pretend to be remotely scientific. I don't know how any viewer could possibly confuse their channel with a serious-you-should-do-these-things tech channel. We just had a link where he exclaimed "Our PCI Express riser chain is almost as tall as Darth Vader!"

Point out to me the person you guys have encountered who thinks they're acting like an authority.

Deuce fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Sep 3, 2017

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I dunno if you can browse the members list on Spiceworks, but that

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016
Spiceworks

lol

Their forums are literally full of the most wrong idiots who have ever maintained tiny environments and there are never any threads where people dogpile people for posting flat-out untrue bullshit.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
If I was interviewing someone, I think a good question to ask would be "when searching for information about an error or problem, you see results from the following websites, tell me which ones you might check first, and your opinion on the reliability of the information."

Then include a printout, or show then a screen of a Google search that shows

HP support forums
Spiceworks
Support.Microsoft.com
Serverfault/Stack Overflow
Some random website

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

If I was interviewing someone, I think a good question to ask would be "when searching for information about an error or problem, you see results from the following websites, tell me which ones you might check first, and your opinion on the reliability of the information."

Then include a printout, or show then a screen of a Google search that shows

HP support forums
Spiceworks
Support.Microsoft.com
Serverfault/Stack Overflow
Some random website

And if the answer isn't "I'd click on spiceworks, microsoft, stack overflow, and the random website. I'd scan the information to make sure it's relevant, then check data from all four sources and compile a conclusion based on our actual problem" you can be pretty sure you're gonna be teaching the candidate some google-fu anyways.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


The random website is usually a blog by an expert on the subject as opposed to a four year old unsolved thread

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

the expert is as likely to have named himself such as not tho.

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008
I always liked experts exchange, 90% of the "answers" are the OP. "Well I just did these 20 random things, most of which are barely related to the problem, and one of must them fixed it! Or maybe the problem just went away on it's own, anyway, thanks guys!"

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"
[quote="“RFC2324”" post="“476033861”"]
the expert is as likely to have named himself such as not tho.
[/quote]

Yeah and this guy on Microsoft Support forums is an MVP. That’s a certification if I’ve ever heard one.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
By the way, these kinds of nuanced, careful answers are the correct answer.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
Ninety out of a hundred "answers" marked "Answer" on the technet forums are by some self-proclaimed Microsoft Support Specialist whose reply to a detailed and logically-explained post about how $random_service is crashing at regular intervals while logging $event_id but only when $particular_DC_is_authenicating is a cut-and-pasted "I reccomend that you reinstall ur domain, here sir is the steps you should follow to retinsatll your domain".

Another nine "answers" are actual Microsoft staff responding to the initial question with a request for more information and some troubleshooting, and after the OP provides it, the MS staff just nopes the gently caress out of there and blueballs everyone.

The final one is an actual answer that solves the problem in a reliable and permanent way but only for the previous version of the OS to what I'm running :argh:

Forget needle in a haystack—finding worthwhile answers there is like finding a needle in an entire sewerage treatment plant.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Rudager posted:

I always liked experts exchange, 90% of the "answers" are the OP. "Well I just did these 20 random things, most of which are barely related to the problem, and one of must them fixed it! Or maybe the problem just went away on it's own, anyway, thanks guys!"
Alternatively, "Nevermind, I fixed it." with no explanation of how.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

Collateral Damage posted:

Alternatively, "Nevermind, I fixed it." with no explanation of how.

These are definitely the best. Makes me so happy when people contribute so constructively to the community.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:
I always make sure to provide a detailed explanation of what the problem was and how to fix it and it pissed me off so much when I fixed my own ticket with MS (Convergys) and this was their response when I asked for an explanation and why they couldn't figure it out:
"Unfortunately on Professional level of support we can’t work on root cause analysis or the observed problems, because of that we can’t provide you an explanation "

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Half of my points on Stack Overflow are from one question I asked, and then answered myself after I solved it. It's not a lot of points, but every now and then I get a notification that I got an upvote, which tells me that someone actually got some use out of my question.

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe

Weatherman posted:

Ninety out of a hundred "answers" marked "Answer" on the technet forums are by some self-proclaimed Microsoft Support Specialist whose reply to a detailed and logically-explained post about how $random_service is crashing at regular intervals while logging $event_id but only when $particular_DC_is_authenicating is a cut-and-pasted "I reccomend that you reinstall ur domain, here sir is the steps you should follow to retinsatll your domain".

Another nine "answers" are actual Microsoft staff responding to the initial question with a request for more information and some troubleshooting, and after the OP provides it, the MS staff just nopes the gently caress out of there and blueballs everyone.

The final one is an actual answer that solves the problem in a reliable and permanent way but only for the previous version of the OS to what I'm running :argh:

Forget needle in a haystack—finding worthwhile answers there is like finding a needle in an entire sewerage treatment plant.

This happens way too many times!

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Sefal posted:

This happens way too many times!

I'll be honest, I got the the point where i assumed that to view the actual answer, you had to subscribe or something

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I don't think you guys have tried getting useful info from the Apple forums. :getout:

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



My bugbear is Adobe, where I can extensively detail exactly what the issue is, what software versions it occurs in, the actual root cause, and supply materials for 100% reproduction on any machine with the inevitable result of "I can't reproduce it on my side, have you tried updating to Creative Cloud?"

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Ghostlight posted:

My bugbear is Adobe, where I can extensively detail exactly what the issue is, what software versions it occurs in, the actual root cause, and supply materials for 100% reproduction on any machine with the inevitable result of "I can't reproduce it on my side, have you tried updating to Creative Cloud?"

That's where WebEx and a "let me step you through and SHOW you what's happening" can be handy.

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?

Collateral Damage posted:

Alternatively, "Nevermind, I fixed it." with no explanation of how.

PM'd you the fix ;)

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Super Slash posted:

PM'd you the fix ;)

This is just a windows 98 SE image with instructions for formatting my drive and installing it!

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009




This way, you won't have the problem you were having! It's the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation approach where the essential uselessness of completely is completely obscured by the sense of achievement you get from getting it to work at all.

BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Sep 4, 2017

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:
I just watched the Linus video and I just dont get why they painted rgb components instead of building a pc that isnt rgb. They didnt play the joke up enough to do it just for the lulz i feel

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Yeah, Linus is basically a master shitposter at this point.

Like, the absolute madman is actually doing the 1920x1080 PC.

Spring Heeled Jack
Feb 25, 2007

If you can read this you can read
What does everyone use for helpdesk/ticketing software? We currently use Spiceworks but are looking to replace next year. Asset management is a requirement as well, preferably with AD integration. I keep seeing Freshservice and Samanage pop up as recommended solutions, but I'd prefer some real world opinions.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Spring Heeled Jack posted:

What does everyone use for helpdesk/ticketing software? We currently use Spiceworks but are looking to replace next year. Asset management is a requirement as well, preferably with AD integration. I keep seeing Freshservice and Samanage pop up as recommended solutions, but I'd prefer some real world opinions.

I haven't used it myself but a few friends use this and swear by it:

https://www.jitbit.com/hosted-helpdesk/

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




We use...lists and workflows in sharepoint :negative:

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?
We use BMC's Service Desk Express. Apparently the full on-prem version is different and not terrible, but SDE is really not wonderful. I don't hate using it, but it's little things that are super annoying. 1.5MB total attachment limit, only can attach one thing at a time, apparently no way to flag clients as inactive so the autosuggest keeps users who have been gone for 3 years. You can't make changes to a record someone else has open, and you can't kick them off it.

So don't go for the Express version of Service Desk.

Spring Heeled Jack
Feb 25, 2007

If you can read this you can read

GreenNight posted:

I haven't used it myself but a few friends use this and swear by it:

https://www.jitbit.com/hosted-helpdesk/

This looks promising. A lot of the ones I look at charge per agent and extra for additional assets.

And Jira integration!

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007

Boogalo posted:

We use...lists and workflows in sharepoint :negative:

Asset management in Sharepoint? How does that work out?

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Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




Foxhound posted:

Asset management in Sharepoint? How does that work out?

Assets are just items in a custom list. It doesn't work out at all. The server room has its own database at least, but its in access with a builtin frontend.

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