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JBP posted:We have a dearth of international film coming in after Aquaman and the government can't be convinced to fund location offsets at an international standard unless they can see that the industry is worth putting money into for them. Pirating international films and tv always has an effect on this and that's why it makes me really angry. lol as if the tiny tiny market we have even makes the movie companies think twice filming here. Here are the two big reasons why they come down to this shithole of a nation: - Tax breaks - Aussie dollar vs. US dollar Most Hollywood movies know that even if their movies poo poo their pants in the US (and just look at the latest lot of poo poo pushed by them during the US summer) that they will get their money back from Chinese market.
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That's what a location offset is and is more important than the dollar. Thanks for agreeing with me.
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JBP posted:That's what a location offset is and is more important than the dollar. Thanks for agreeing with me. I want to quote one or two words from one of your posts at random and thank you for agreeing with me too. JBP posted:Also please join ... me ... dude. Ahhhh
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DancingShade posted:I want to quote one or two words from one of your posts at random and thank you for agreeing with me too. He said that international studios come for the tax breaks, which are called location offsets. They are provided by the government which takes tax revenue into account and will use piracy figures as lost income to reduce screen funding and not agree to offsets.
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JBP posted:I don't understand your take on this but want to hear it. There's two components to this: the distribution and artificial scarcity which I kind of touched on but everyone basically already understands, and the way movies at the studio level are funded. It used to be that someone could fund a creative project for a tax rebate but that went away under Howard I think, nowadays, nothing really gets made without Screen Australia money, which I'm pretty sure is a money laundering scheme by Village where they get return on investment for their lobbying funds. Screen funds studio movies, which are big enough to have political clout, and they obviously get first pick of any funding passing through the arts. This, coupled with the art fund George Brandis created is just turning into spin cycle. If Village didn't dominate distribution as well, do you think they would give a poo poo about piracy? In their particular case it's just about one branch being more profitable than the other. In Newscorp's case it's holding creative work Australian's should at least know that exists to ransom. Both are old models protecting their weak position in a world where the multiplex/cable TV/standard definition dial-up friendly streaming is dead. Piracy definitely isn't the answer to this in the long-term but it's got to be the easiest boycott in the world. And there are solutions: either adapt and rejuvenate or cut down prices and speed up availability, like how Valve fixed Steam for the Russian market. They price gouge here still, but they wised up in the case of Russia when it was clear the government wasn't going to do their work for them. Edit: Stan doesn't have HBO but it does have Preacher and Twin Peaks, so it's already a better local alternative to Netflix. Frogfingers fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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It makes it easier to get more work for film crews if you buy all the media. If you don't care then don't buy the media. I'm not sure why this thread is so doggedly defending LNP/ALP policy that is anti creative industries, but whatever. The more offsets we can provide, the more big budget stuff goes into Sydney Fox Studios, Docklands and Gold Coast Roadshow and the more our crews get to work on stuff with newer tech and improve the quality of Australian film with that experience. It also means more actors are being paid well thanks to 70/30 splits and other quotas on local actors. I like the Australian film industry and want it to get work. That's all 
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Frogfingers posted:There's two components to this: the distribution and artificial scarcity which I kind of touched on but everyone basically already understands, and the way movies at the studio level are funded. It used to be that someone could fund a creative project for a tax rebate but that went away under Howard I think, nowadays, nothing really gets made without Screen Australia money, which I'm pretty sure is a money laundering scheme by Village where they get return on investment for their lobbying funds. Screen funds studio movies, which are big enough to have political clout, and they obviously get first pick of any funding passing through the arts. This, coupled with the art fund George Brandis created is just turning into spin cycle. If Village didn't dominate distribution as well, do you think they would give a poo poo about piracy? In their particular case it's just about one branch being more profitable than the other. In Newscorp's case it's holding creative work Australian's should at least know that exists to ransom. Both are old models protecting their weak position in a world where the multiplex/cable TV/standard definition dial-up friendly streaming is dead. Agree 100% Screen Aus is too afraid to touch anything that isn't being done by a major studio and it's bullshit, but it's work for the industry. Their last 12 months of funded television is a pretty awful joke by and large. The only way I can imagine something akin to Steam happening for screen is going to be if Google Play and the other internationals eventually manage to get the rights to stuff when the American cable networks die, or we allow freer access to the market (which is also kind of dicey considering it will mean a lot of work leaving Australia on the back end of things). I hope that happens, but in the mean time there is the problem where there isn't going to be much screen work next year and a bunch of dudes working job to job are probably going to be in a bit of trouble unless they can get a load of commercial work. CBS Ten is going to be pretty interesting and their entire game is going to be breaking in with streaming. Hopefully it will cause a shock wave and break the market open to international streaming services because the argument will be easy to make that we already have internationals in network tv and streaming.
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JBP posted:I like the Australian film industry and want it to get work. That's all i think you & are the only two
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I am very sorry to admit that I downloaded Red Dog 50,000 times
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Australian Journalism: A Play In One Tweet https://twitter.com/annabelcrabb/status/903886956718735360
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JBP posted:Spotify is apparently horrible for artists, but I don't know a lot about music distribution. It definitely is, in the same way that Kindle Unlimited is poo poo for authors (but Spotify is way worse for musicians). Basically, artists get paid tiny fractions of pennies for every stream rather than the $0.70 or so (I think) they'd get for the purchase of a single, or even more for the purchase of an album. They generally get paid around 0.2 CENTS per stream. So someone has to listen to the song 350 times on Spotify before they get paid as much as they would for a sale. Plus there's the whole thing about being able to listen to the music for free, which devalues it. For the people further down the food chain, like people with writing credits, they get even less money than that.
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All I know about Spotify is that it might be my only option for 'music you might like' that I don't have to actually pick after Pandora shut up shop in Australia. But even that I don't know for sure, I don't even know how Spotify works, I just know it's absolute hot garbage for the artists and only really works in favor of the labels. EDIT: This is of course, excluding radio as an option. Because radio isn't a good option unless you like Triple J's offerings or AC/DC. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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open24hours posted:Pandora shutting down was devastating. Jango seems like an OK replacement, but it's definitely not as good. I want Pandora back too
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Cleretic posted:EDIT: This is of course, excluding radio as an option. Because radio isn't a good option unless you like Triple J's offerings or AC/DC. Non-Brisbane Goon detected.
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open24hours posted:Pandora shutting down was devastating. I don't even know how to do music anymore now that's gone. I've been listening to way more podcasts than I used to, because at least I know where those are. I'm most of the way through the entire My Brother My Brother And Me backlog. I still miss my station that started off with Daft Punk, somehow ended with phenomenally lovely (but extremely fun) Brazilian dance-pop, and on the way introduced me to Ladytron and the fact that Ellie Goulding's got at least one really good album.
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It should say something that even with legendarily lovely internet Australians are prolific pirates. The distribution is poo poo. Foxtel is poo poo. Everything comes late, gouged, and incomplete. This is already a solved problem that Valve is making billions on. And Apple before them. The only way to reduce piracy is to make it easier to buy than to pirate.
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Anidav posted:Triple Z has a dedicated Ska bloc called Skar Trek This owns.
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I just listen to podcasts all the time. Getting through mbmbam and all the McElroy-adjacent shows and things like "my dad wrote a porno". I suspect people seeing me in the shops think I'm mad as I cackle away listening to my headphones.
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Back when we owned the coffee shop there was one radio station that would play the exact same playlist of like 10 songs from the 70s every single day, without question. The only thing they would do is change the order sometimes. Bohemian Rhapsody for a few minutes, and the Courier Mail crossword puzzle were the only two things that brought me joy during that dark time.
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You guys should listen to Athletico Mince. I think Barry Homeowner would resonate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i14ddHgQNOM&t=2025s open24hours fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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open24hours posted:Pandora shutting down was devastating. Jango seems like an OK replacement, but it's definitely not as good. Does that mean the Pandora app in cars (like the one I looked at today!) does not actually work?
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Comstar posted:Does that mean the Pandora app in cars (like the one I looked at today!) does not actually work? Not in Australia. The phone app will tell you that (before you delete it). Soundcloud will be next, they're on borrowed time. So if there a track you really really like, better download it.
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Comstar posted:Does that mean the Pandora app in cars (like the one I looked at today!) does not actually work? Correct. Pandora is one of those lovely American companies that expanded too fast and didn't have the cash to walk the walk so they are winding back and becoming US exclusive. Not even a VPN will work because VPNs are banned by Pandora actively now. I tried and got ban hammered.
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adamantium|wang posted:Australian Journalism: A Play In One Tweet GODDAMNIT Seriously if journalists in this country did their loving jobs occasionally we might not be in the lovely quagmire we find ourselves in, but there you go. Fetch me a rope.
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Anyone have video of Malcolm Turnbull with Tony Abbott on Fox Studios claiming Copper isn't that bad because they use copper in the iPhone? Anyone else remember that and how Tony kept on using the phrase "Mr. Broadband" like a freaky postman pat Narrator?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKbANwmJyWcquote:https://www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/media/transcript-launch-of-the-coalition-broadband-policy
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ewe2 posted:Not in Australia. The phone app will tell you that (before you delete it). Soundcloud will be next, they're on borrowed time. So if there a track you really really like, better download it. Seriously, is there a way to listen to music that I can actually hold on to that doesn't suck for either me or the artist? Preferably that doesn't ask me to curate my own awful, nebulous tastes and does it for me?
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Get a portable CD or Cassette Walk man.
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Anidav posted:Get a portable CD or Cassette Walk man. I am using Techmoan's latest Walkman guide for assistance with that
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My current theory is that people will just realise that Silicon Valley has Juicero'd their music and the consumer hive mind will just go full circle back to physical formats and sharing MP3s. Cause if you're not in America and the hipsters in charge of streamr music or whatever decide to downsize then you're hosed. Atleast with physical formats you can downsize via a garage sale and recoup your spending but if you subscribe to these American asshats and they decide to fly out of Australia then cya pal nice knowing you thanks for the cash sucker. Anidav fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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