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Rigel posted:Yes, Trump can have Mueller fired, and there's two ways to do it. He can either fire Sessions and start firing acting AG's until he gets someone willing to fire Mueller, or Trump can change the rule saying he can't directly fire Mueller. Wait, where is there indication that sub-30 approval ratings mean he loses Texas? Sure, a -20GOP likely voter swing starts making district maps fly out the window, but is there a good way to map approval rating to congressional elections?
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Potato Salad posted:Wait, where is there indication that sub-30 approval ratings mean he loses Texas? Sure, a -20GOP likely voter swing starts making district maps fly out the window, but is there a good way to map approval rating to congressional elections? there isn't, is the short answer. trump's abysmally unpopular. but remember that campaign to paint him as different from the Republican pack? good news, it's just about the only thing the Hillary campaign pushed that paid off
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PhazonLink posted:How did Fox News pronounce Mario? Like Maria but with an O at the end.
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Potato Salad posted:Wait, where is there indication that sub-30 approval ratings mean he loses Texas? Sure, a -20GOP likely voter swing starts making district maps fly out the window, but is there a good way to map approval rating to congressional elections? A generic Republican doesn't lose Texas in 2018 in almost any circumstances, but in this case the Republican is Ted Cruz, and the circumstances are that Trump is acting like a secret Democratic double-agent doing everything in his power to destroy the GOP from within. Its still unlikely, but we can dream. Texas isn't like Alabama, there's a huge latino population and political demographers have been dreaming of a purple Texas for a while. We're probably still over a decade away.
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PhazonLink posted:How did Fox News pronounce Mario? This is true. If they had uttered "Mare-eeo" I would have rushed over to the studio with an AK like that one guy did to Discovery channel
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Potato Salad posted:Wait, where is there indication that sub-30 approval ratings mean he loses Texas? Sure, a -20GOP likely voter swing starts making district maps fly out the window, but is there a good way to map approval rating to congressional elections? There isn't. Though potentially killing the gerrymandered districts might help flip it some as well. I don't know what the timeline is for redistricting those nor what the net impact would be on that, but presumably it would be bad for the GOP. Texas is definitely turning bluer but there's still a critical mass of shitheads and they've got quite the machine at work keeping those shitheads loyal and entrenching themselves.
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Democrazy posted:Is this a broken clock situation, or are the bishops still hyperconservetive even after Father Dolan stepped down? There's a really strong conservative faction in the US. One of their ringleaders is good buddies with Steve Bannon.  They loving hate Francis. At least one of em was flirting with sedevacantist dogwhistles.
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Rigel posted:Yes, Trump can have Mueller fired, and there's two ways to do it. He can either fire Sessions and start firing acting AG's until he gets someone willing to fire Mueller, or Trump can change the rule saying he can't directly fire Mueller. Right, it's the latter I'm interested in. He can do the Saturday Night Massacre route or direct firing. My question is whether Trump has the authority to fire a special counsel, given its relatively unique nature to the DoJ - could Mueller be told he's fired, turn to Rosenstein and go "am I fired? No? Okay then." and go about his business, or would Trump be able to override Rosenstein's authority? There are limits to the president's Article II powers, and I was wondering if Mueller was someone able to protect himself this way. Again, I know impeachment is far more likely but I was interested in the legality/constitutional basis.
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Rigel posted:A generic Republican doesn't lose Texas in 2018 in almost any circumstances, but in this case the Republican is Ted Cruz, and the circumstances are that Trump is acting like a secret Democratic double-agent doing everything in his power to destroy the GOP from within. Er, aren't there a ton of black voters in Alabama that could push it blue if the GOP vote is even a little depressed? I thought that was everyone's hope with the AL-Sen election this winter.
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axeil posted:Er, aren't there a ton of black voters in Alabama that could push it blue if the GOP vote is even a little depressed? I thought that was everyone's hope with the AL-Sen election this winter. Alabama is 70% White. So, no.
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axeil posted:Er, aren't there a ton of black voters in Alabama that could push it blue if the GOP vote is even a little depressed? I thought that was everyone's hope with the AL-Sen election this winter. Alabama has 9 congressional seats and in the 2008 election was only 5-4 Republican. Though one Democrat immediately switched parties and another might as well have.
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skylined! posted:well ya rick scott building a giant fan to blow the hurricane back out into the atlantic isn't really feasible Brb, writing project proposal
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axeil posted:Er, aren't there a ton of black voters in Alabama that could push it blue if the GOP vote is even a little depressed? I thought that was everyone's hope with the AL-Sen election this winter. not really - alabama and mississippi are very black states relative to the rest of the us but they're still majority white states. neither of those states have any significant cities, meaning no real population attraction or growth, meaning they're safe red for now there are enough rural persons of color to swing a few house seats from the backwater south and make the black belt a thing but in terms of electoral demographics you need cities. alabama barely has them and mississippi definitely does not
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Koalas March posted:This is what kills me. We get our first black president and naturally the next guy comes and erases any legacy he would've had. Ironically, Obama's legacy will be that he was the last classically presidential president because it is going to go Trump --> Zuckerburg --> The Rock --> George Clooney/Kayne --> Former Majority Leader Kid Rock ---> Elon Musk's Incorporeal Transcendent Mind
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Kubrick posted:Ironically, Obama's legacy will be that he was the last classically presidential president because it is going to go Trump --> Zuckerburg --> The Rock --> George Clooney/Kayne --> Former Majority Leader Kid Rock ---> Elon Musk's Incorporeal Transcendent Mind TMs can't be elected if they reside on Mars.
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also the rural black folk who live in alabama would be solid republican voters in terms of social conservativism and the religious vote if the republicans hadn't spent years actively trying to discourage black conservativesRuanGacho posted:TMs can't be elected if they reside on Mars. for legal residency reasons, 50.01% of musk's computational cycles will take place in subsidized data centers in the antarctic
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RuanGacho posted:TMs can't be elected if they reside on Mars. That's where America evacuates to after the category 9 hurricanes.
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See this is where the CNN chyron guy needs to get sassy "Has a 'great heart' for DREAMERS (called them rapists and criminals)
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Kubrick posted:Ironically, Obama's legacy will be that he was the last classically presidential president because it is going to go Trump --> Zuckerburg --> The Rock --> George Clooney/Kayne --> Former Majority Leader Kid Rock ---> Elon Musk's Incorporeal Transcendent Mind You forgot about Ronald Reagan's exhumed corpse in 2039, which was put on trial for the resurgence of the EUSSR after World War IV.
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Tesseraction posted:Right, it's the latter I'm interested in. He can do the Saturday Night Massacre route or direct firing. My question is whether Trump has the authority to fire a special counsel, given its relatively unique nature to the DoJ - could Mueller be told he's fired, turn to Rosenstein and go "am I fired? No? Okay then." and go about his business, or would Trump be able to override Rosenstein's authority? There are limits to the president's Article II powers, and I was wondering if Mueller was someone able to protect himself this way. The congress has the power to pass a law to appoint a special prosecutor and to restrict the president's power to fire him, but they have not done that. Since the independent counsel law expired, there is currently no law governing special prosecutors, they are appointed by DOJ. If it went to court, I believe they would rule in favor of Trump, and tell congress that if they don't like it, then they should do something about it. Currently Muller is 3 steps below Trump in the executive branch org chart.
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Ripoff posted:You forgot about Ronald Reagan's exhumed corpse in 2039, which was put on trial for the resurgence of the EUSSR after World War IV. Please, as if he'd beat FDR's exhumed corpse in 2039, which was put on trial for the resurgence of Nazi Germany after World War V.
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yeah i know, twitter thread, but still: https://twitter.com/aguaachiles/status/904936124648263680
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boner confessor posted:not really - alabama and mississippi are very black states relative to the rest of the us but they're still majority white states. neither of those states have any significant cities, meaning no real population attraction or growth, meaning they're safe red for now Yeah, there's really no hope of seeing Alabama and Mississippi go blue during any of our lifetimes. Texas by contrast currently has more latino schoolchildren than white children. If everyone over the age of 50 in Texas died tomorrow, whites might be a minority. The GOP isn't necessarily going to get turbofucked tomorrow over this racist poo poo, but in the long run Trump is dooming the party.
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Ripoff posted:You forgot about Ronald Reagan's exhumed corpse in 2039, which was put on trial for the resurgence of the EUSSR after World War IV.
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botany posted:yeah i know, twitter thread, but still: Not wrong but the argument ad humanity was lost long ago (around the beginning of November, specifically).
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Koalas March posted:also wait did people itt think "mobile homes" were something you could just slap some wheels on and drive away like an RV? I actually assumed a lot of them were single-piece if horrendously inconvenient (thanks to a sample size of one acquaintance living in one that could plausibly have been single piece). I had also seen at least one that could absolutely not have legally or logistically been carried all at once though 
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Look, just because I want to break up their families and deport them to a country they've never lived in where they don't even speak the language, doesn't mean I don't love them. I mean, look at how he treats family members who he 'loves'
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Enigma89 posted:That's fair. The one thing I do want to re-mention is a thought I had about Trump getting elected. People were scared and frightened (For good reason) but a silver lining of him winning is having everyone realize how much power the President really has. Obviously it's much more thatn originally intended and it's probably not a good thing. Obama, despite my disagreements with him, seemed like a good dude and you could trust him to not do stuff out of malice. But now that you have an idiot as president, the powers he has become very scary. Honestly, gently caress having a President. Make it a triumvirate and elect one every two years.
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botany posted:yeah i know, twitter thread, but still: I disagree with him. This: https://twitter.com/aguaachiles/status/904936223726215169 Is not a problem. This: https://twitter.com/aguaachiles/status/904936706935218176 Is a large problem. He doesn't deserve to be here because he's human, that's nonsense.
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Rigel posted:Yeah, there's really no hope of seeing Alabama and Mississippi go blue during any of our lifetimes. I've had more than one acquaintance in my midsize Texas city express concern that some of the upcoming school generations are majority minority  The first time my flabber was sufficiently gasted that I couldn't do a lot more than just kinda sputter but the second time I went "good!" and planted my flag firmly on race traitor hill in the course of arguing that racial diversity is in and of itself to white defaultitude / supremacy 
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farraday posted:He doesn't deserve to be here because he's human, that's nonsense. I mean, you could make an argument that nation-states are bullshit, but it's not one you can really support.
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farraday posted:I disagree with him. How about : he has lived in this nation state his entire adult life, maybe the majority of his entire life, and because exile is considered a violation of fundamental human rights, being human gives him the right to remain here.
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farraday posted:He doesn't deserve to be here because he's human, that's nonsense. Isn't jus solis one of the biggest things about the US?
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botany posted:explain There are a lot of humans on earth... There is not a question of them deserving to be here. They are here or they are not. Does he deserve citizenship or at least a path to it? Absolutely, and it's based on a lot more than the fact that he's a human.
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Pollyanna posted:Isn't jus solis one of the biggest things about the US? If they're a DACA recipient then they weren't born in the US, they were brought to the country as a child
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