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SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

maskenfreiheit posted:

Sadly we now need to deal with North Korea's bullshit because Israel taught everyone once you have nukes everyone ignores your rampant human rights issues because an invasion would be too costly

Lol DPRK has nukes because not being friendly to capitalists is usually followed by a visit by the US military or sponsored forces.

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Nameless_Steve
Oct 18, 2010
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maskenfreiheit posted:

Sadly we now need to deal with North Korea's bullshit because the USA and USSR taught everyone once you have nukes everyone ignores your rampant human rights issues because an invasion would be too costly
fixed

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
Heh, none of the usual apologists popped in to spout off the excuses for the demolition of the Palestinian school going around right-wing Israeli Twitter.

:downs: "Well, they didn't have a building permit so what should they expect, that the state of Israel enforce zoning laws and provide for the basic well-being of the population under its boot???"

:godwin: "Well, those children would have just been brainwashed to hate and murder Jews anyways so why not fuel the fire destroy the school???"

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

Its their fault they didnt get a permit

You cant have people putting schools up willy-nilly now can we?

This is outrageous anti-antisemitism to suggest Israel would illegally knock down a school just to upset the Palestinians

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
Does Israel have nuclear missiles that could reach the US? 🤔

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

maskenfreiheit posted:

Does Israel have nuclear missiles that could reach the US? 🤔

Does North Korea?

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
the jews have forgotten how to farm. farming was the first art that the lord ever gave us and as one we've turned our backs on it, instead pursuing parlour tricks taught to us by the renegade sex angels who wander among us still exhausted and despairing. we need to throw down our guns and go back to our flocks. we can't end the war but we can end the famine! hashem is with us!

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

the old ceremony posted:

the jews have forgotten how to farm. farming was the first art that the lord ever gave us and as one we've turned our backs on it, instead pursuing parlour tricks taught to us by the renegade sex angels who wander among us still exhausted and despairing. we need to throw down our guns and go back to our flocks. we can't end the war but we can end the famine! hashem is with us!

israeli agriculture is pretty top notch technologically and productively. they've helped out with agriculture in many parts of the world with dry and difficult to farm land, like the more arid state of rajasthan in india (with millions of people who depend on agriculture for a living, and millions more dependant on local agricultural produce to survive). already rajasthani farmers are expecting incredible harvests of several important crops, and of the olive tree, which israel has recently also introduced to india. israelis have turned a desert into the food basket of the middle east, and produce an incredible variety of fruits and other such produce to export. israel has shown that you need not return to a primitive agrarian vision of society to be prosperous and blessed. we have managed to venerate the first art bestowed upon us by G-d in a way far better than your foolish exhortation for us all to return to primitive times lest we fall into some imagined doom.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
hallelujah!

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010
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Fututor Magnus posted:

israeli agriculture is pretty top notch technologically and productively. they've helped out with agriculture in many parts of the world with dry and difficult to farm land, like the more arid state of rajasthan in india (with millions of people who depend on agriculture for a living, and millions more dependant on local agricultural produce to survive). already rajasthani farmers are expecting incredible harvests of several important crops, and of the olive tree, which israel has recently also introduced to india. israelis have turned a desert into the food basket of the middle east, and produce an incredible variety of fruits and other such produce to export. israel has shown that you need not return to a primitive agrarian vision of society to be prosperous and blessed. we have managed to venerate the first art bestowed upon us by G-d in a way far better than your foolish exhortation for us all to return to primitive times lest we fall into some imagined doom.

Lol thats avshalom.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Fututor Magnus posted:

israeli agriculture is pretty top notch technologically and productively. they've helped out with agriculture in many parts of the world with dry and difficult to farm land, like the more arid state of rajasthan in india (with millions of people who depend on agriculture for a living, and millions more dependant on local agricultural produce to survive). already rajasthani farmers are expecting incredible harvests of several important crops, and of the olive tree, which israel has recently also introduced to india. israelis have turned a desert into the food basket of the middle east, and produce an incredible variety of fruits and other such produce to export. israel has shown that you need not return to a primitive agrarian vision of society to be prosperous and blessed. we have managed to venerate the first art bestowed upon us by G-d in a way far better than your foolish exhortation for us all to return to primitive times lest we fall into some imagined doom.
friend you just put forward an excellent argument that farming is what we do and farming is what we should focus on. not finance, not warfare, not manufacturing or oil - farming. every jew who doesn't farm is wasting their time and their energy, unless they are a divinely inspired individual following some other true calling. we need to return to the land, because the land needs us, and there are so few of us that to make an impact we all have to move as one. you are the fool here

Starving Wolf
Apr 2, 2010

MUCH LATER
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Fututor Magnus posted:

israeli agriculture is pretty top notch technologically and productively. they've helped out with agriculture in many parts of the world with dry and difficult to farm land, like the more arid state of rajasthan in india (with millions of people who depend on agriculture for a living, and millions more dependant on local agricultural produce to survive). already rajasthani farmers are expecting incredible harvests of several important crops, and of the olive tree, which israel has recently also introduced to india. israelis have turned a desert into the food basket of the middle east, and produce an incredible variety of fruits and other such produce to export. israel has shown that you need not return to a primitive agrarian vision of society to be prosperous and blessed. we have managed to venerate the first art bestowed upon us by G-d in a way far better than your foolish exhortation for us all to return to primitive times lest we fall into some imagined doom.


the old ceremony posted:

friend you just put forward an excellent argument that farming is what we do and farming is what we should focus on. not finance, not warfare, not manufacturing or oil - farming. every jew who doesn't farm is wasting their time and their energy, unless they are a divinely inspired individual following some other true calling. we need to return to the land, because the land needs us, and there are so few of us that to make an impact we all have to move as one. you are the fool here

Oh god, which one's the real avshalom? Who do I shoot??

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
love letters to the children of israel are written on my soul and i can't let them go unread

spaceships
Aug 4, 2005

i love too dumptruck

guacamole aficionado
avshalom is the best i/p poster and always will be.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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spaceships posted:

avshalom is the best poster and always will be.
fixt

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

the old ceremony posted:

friend you just put forward an excellent argument that farming is what we do and farming is what we should focus on. not finance, not warfare, not manufacturing or oil - farming. every jew who doesn't farm is wasting their time and their energy, unless they are a divinely inspired individual following some other true calling. we need to return to the land, because the land needs us, and there are so few of us that to make an impact we all have to move as one. you are the fool here

my friend, you forget that the jews of old who created ancient israel were doing exactly what israel is doing now. we have not strayed from the path that G-d made for us. old israel defended itself against many enemies, and thus needed to be tough at fighting. israel does the same and with its military has already defeated all its surrounding enemies, and like ancient israel, we are also surrounded by countless enemies. the jews of old had many talents, and so do israelis today.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

Fututor Magnus posted:

my friend, you forget that the jews of old who created ancient israel were doing exactly what israel is doing now. we have not strayed from the path that G-d made for us. old israel defended itself against many enemies, and thus needed to be tough at fighting. israel does the same and with its military has already defeated all its surrounding enemies, and like ancient israel, we are also surrounded by countless enemies. the jews of old had many talents, and so do israelis today.

you're squatting. the "enemies" are the landowners, hth

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
Our ancestors killed CanaanPalestine's landowners and taken it as our own before, we can do it again.

:smith:

Dommolus Magnus
Feb 27, 2013

Starving Wolf posted:

Oh god, which one's the real avshalom? Who do I shoot??

The Avshalom reproduce asexually. At this point there are no fewer than 10 Avshaloms on this station forum.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger
I GET IT! :haw:

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
modern israel is a ship of fools steered by evildoers and greedy idiot men. its establishment was divinely ordained to see the jews safely through the twentieth century, but the twentieth century is over now and our power has corrupted us. we will pay for our cruelty and our arrogance. the only way we can do penance and stay the wrathful hand of the creator is for all of us, every single one, to get up and leave our air-conditioned palaces and walk out into the desert together, where we will be protected. the rocks will give us water, the sky will give us food, and our goats and sheep will thrive, as they always have since the start of our recorded history

treasured8elief
Jul 25, 2011

Salad Prong

quote:

Over the past two weeks, four Palestinian communities have seen their educational facilities – donated by international bodies and NGOs – destroyed on the grounds that they had been built without proper planning permission.

The security forces also removed solar panels powering a school for Bedouin children near Jerusalem on August 9th, ignoring a High Court petition over their removal in the process.


UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, January Bulletin posted:

During January 2017, OCHA recorded the demolition of 140 structures by the Israeli authorities, displacing around 240 Palestinians and affecting another 4,000. The number of structures demolished during the first month of the year was over 50 per cent higher than the monthly average of structures targeted in 2016. All of these demolitions were carried out in Area C and East Jerusalem on the grounds of lack of building permits, although these are nearly impossible to obtain for Palestinians.
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During 2016 the Israeli authorities demolished or seized 1,093 Palestinian-owned structures throughout the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, displacing over 1,600 Palestinians, around half of them children, and affecting the livelihoods of more than 7,000 others. These figures are nearly double those of 2015 and the highest since 2009, when OCHA began the systematic monitoring of demolitions.

The vast majority of these structures were located in Area C and East Jerusalem and were destroyed or seized for lack of an Israeli-issued building permit. The rest were demolished on punitive grounds or during military operations. Nearly 30 per cent (308) of the structures demolished in 2016 were donor-funded humanitarian assistance structures.

More than 63 percent of the structures demolished or seized during the year were in Palestinian herding and/or Bedouin communities in Area C, including 283 structures provided as humanitarian assistance. The demolition of homes and livelihoods in combination with access restrictions, lack of adequate services, settler violence, military training and relocation plans, generates a coercive environment and places these vulnerable communities at risk of forcible transfer (see case study on access to health care in southern Hebron).

17 percent of the structures demolished or seized (190) were in East Jerusalem.

According to new data provided by the Israeli Civil Administration (ICA), by the end of 2016 there were approximately 12,500 final demolition orders outstanding against Palestinian-owned structures across Area C. Some orders were issued as far back as the late 1980s. The orders have no expiry date and can be implemented at any time.

Also according to ICA data, during the first half of 2016 there were 428 applications for building permits in Palestinian communities in Area C, of which 391 (91 per cent) were rejected. The majority of the 37 applications approved were reportedly issued independently by the Israeli authorities for one of the “relocation” sites planned for Palestinian Bedouin communities rather than a response to a Palestinian application.

treasured8elief
Jul 25, 2011

Salad Prong

Haaretz posted:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared Monday, August 28'th, that he will not evacuate Israeli settlements in the West Bank. "We are here to stay, forever," the prime minister said at an event in the [illegal] settlement of Barkan, commemorating the 50th anniversary of Israel's occupation of the West Bank.

"There will be no more uprooting of settlements in the land of Israel. It has been proven that it does not help peace," he said. "We've uprooted settlements. What did we get? We received missiles. It will not happen anymore. And there's another reasons that we will look after this place, because it looks after us. In light of everything that is occurring around us, we can just imagine the result," he said, citing threats to Israel's Ben Gurion International Airport and a main highway that runs along the border with the West Bank.

"So we will not fold. We are guarding Samaria against those who want to uproot us. We will deepen our roots, build, strengthen and settle," he said, using the Jewish name for part of the West Bank.

Education Minister Naftali Bennet also spoke at the event, attended by a few thousand residents of the surrounding settlements, saying "we shouldn't need permits, building in Judea and Samaria should be unrestricted. The freedom to build in our country."

Netanyahu added that "it's simply wonderful to see the developments here. I remember when we came to Barkan and we saw the vineyards, we saw the grapes, we stomped on the grapes – but today there are new grapes here. In the [settlement of] Tapuach, there's high-tech fruits, and this industry is ripe. We are working to advance industry, employment, water, tourism, public diplomacy and to fight against organizations calling for a boycott.

"We are doing this for two reasons: the first reason is simple, this is the land of our forefathers. This is our country."

treasured8elief fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Aug 30, 2017

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010
Probation
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The land of our forefathers, going back dozens of years

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

The land of our forefathers, going back dozens of years

Hey, I'm 10th gen on my dad's side. Now, my mom's side..

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



This crap sickens me. These people already have nothing.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...



e: gently caress it can't get image to work

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Miftan posted:



e: gently caress it can't get image to work

:ocelot:

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/904717439648325632

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Sucks that people like them only ever face criminal justice for financial crimes, in the rare case that they ever do at all. It's a little like the Al Capone getting busted for tax evasion thing but on the level of a state.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Mr. Lobe posted:

Sucks that people like them only ever face criminal justice for financial crimes, in the rare case that they ever do at all. It's a little like the Al Capone getting busted for tax evasion thing but on the level of a state.

Violence to property trumps violence to people in capitalism.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
It's remarkable how good Bibi is at parting fools from their money.

Maybe he'll pull a reverse-Trump and move into showbiz, real estate, and branding scams, after he retired from office.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Absurd Alhazred posted:

It's remarkable how good Bibi is at parting fools from their money.

Maybe he'll pull a reverse-Trump and move into showbiz, real estate, and branding scams, after he retired from office.

Someone's gotta build those settlements

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Darth Walrus posted:

Violence to property trumps violence to people in capitalism.

Rich peoples' property*

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Aung San Suu Kyii and her general budddies are learning a thing or two from Israel.

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/905153331210936321

Kim Jong Il
Aug 16, 2003
That has absolutely nothing to do in any capacity with Israel.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Kim Jong Il posted:

That has absolutely nothing to do in any capacity with Israel.

Kim Jong Il
Aug 16, 2003
Fair enough, but 1948 and today seem sufficiently dis-analogous to render the comparison wrong. One can engage in bad conduct you dislike without arguing that it's literally rounding people up and ethnically cleansing them by the thousands on a daily basis. Israel/Palestine isn't even the biggest example of ethnic cleansing in the region, and right next door to Myanmar is where one of the largest ethnic cleansings in history occurred.

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Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?
Israel: not even the biggest ethnic cleansers in the region.

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