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man summoners are cool and good and zombies are my friends but at t10 maps im starting to run into bosses that just turbofuck my minions like neo-piety in malformation and the galaxyfucker in temple and I just end up running around dodging poo poo and occasionally pooping out skulls. am I REALLY supposed to have a minion life gem, i mean really really also i bought a barons with like 300 str I guess i need to find some real str poo poo now
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 04:45 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 05:16 |
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Has anyone tested if Esh's Visage can reflect the 50% shock from Vinktars?
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 04:50 |
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vOv posted:How strict is your filter, like do you generally have more than one full inventory's worth of stuff (assuming you only carry portal scrolls and maybe a few bits of other random currency into the map)? I'm mostly running high-level stuff because I'm focused more on getting my character to 90, so if I do run low-level stuff for fast clears then I won't wind up getting any XP out of it. As far as rare items go, I'm only picking up rings, amulets, belts, and a select few top tier base types, like imbued wands. Most maps I finish the map with less than 1/4th of an inventory's worth of stuff, depending on how many 6 socket items dropped.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 05:01 |
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Also, remove portal scrolls and wisdom scrolls from your drop list. If you need either you can pick up transmutes if it's really necessary and use the vendor recipes to make more.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 05:19 |
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10bux posted:I think what's always drawn me to wanders, is that there isn't a "perfect" way to build them. That's because your gear is pretty much guaranteed to be different then the next. Way more so then any other build in my opinion. I tried dropping the flask nodes for a few hours and determined that the extra mana pool those nodes give is really important. I don't know what your stats look like but the maximum leech rate is 20% of your max mana, which without those nodes is around 700, or 140 per second. Your mana regen without those nodes is like 14 or 15, so you regain about 155 mana per second at leech cap. My barrage costs 51 mana per use and fully buffed with the wand wheel I have 4.8 APS, which means Barraging burns 245 mana per second, a lot more than the max mana recovery rate. With the two Flask Charge Recovery/Mana clusters, I have 1100 max mana and 27 mana regen, giving me 247 max mana recovery, a bit more than enough to sustain the slightly slower Barrage. Regardless of whether or not bosses will survive for that long, it's drastically cutting down on the real Shaper DPS, which is what matters the most. Also it's just way more annoying to play like that in general even when not mashing Barrage on a single target, and feels just awful for QoL in general. TBH I'm not sure how other people manage it because I see people skip those nodes, but I'm welcome to see a suggested tree that takes wand wheel and also the flask nodes, but at this point I don't think they're skippable. If it's just a matter of sacrificing like 25-30% life worth of jewel sockets and life nodes, I really don't think the wand wheel is worth it.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 06:17 |
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i feel like i dont want to give up primal spirit but i think i like what you did with the duelist section more and will probably try that to get into the juicy wand nodes before lvl 98 or whatever
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 06:25 |
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J posted:There are tons of posts on reddit about "hey I just ran 100 maps here's what I got" and there is always a good chunk of currency there, even without any "big" sellable drops. Case in point, some guy ran 1000 t2 beach maps with bisco's and goldwyrm, look what he got. You can steamroll beach on a poo poo load of builds that can still function with those 2 items. He didn't pick up anything aside from raw currency drops and uniques worth 5c or more. to be fair I think the real lesson here is that Bisco's should be everyone's first purchase when they start mapping. Yeah it's expensive and yeah it doesn't make you any stronger but it is literally the switch that needs to be flipped to start rolling in cash. I started using it on my golemancer last league and I can't imagine playing any character without it now.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 07:36 |
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What if Bisco's is way, way too expensive for you?
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 07:58 |
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Try not to be so poor
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 08:01 |
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start saving 100c is a lot when you first hit maps but it's not unreachable, use a strict loot filter (I use Neversink's Uber Strict) to minimize time spent doting over bad drops and then just run more and more maps while not using your currency for anything except alching more maps. The dude in that link averaged 5.4c per map with his ~110-120 IIQ so you should average about 2c per map with no IIQ, 50-100 maps should earn you a Bisco's and a ton of exp in the meantime You could even use Div Distillate and Goldwyrm for ~30-40% IIQ of your own on a 2-3c budget. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Sep 6, 2017 |
# ? Sep 6, 2017 08:05 |
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I use one filter to rule them all Also alch all maps or only some maps?
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 08:09 |
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I alch every single map, it's pretty rare to do a rare map and not get at least 1 alch worth of pure currency out of it.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 08:12 |
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lmao, so I buy a bisco's put it on, go and run a couple of maps, and a far far far better bisco's drops for me this drat game
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 08:38 |
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I suspect lab running may be much better than speed farming with Bisco's, especially early in a league. And you can take that character into T16s and Shaper, because you have the survivability and single target.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 09:00 |
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I've been doing this for a while and I dunno if it's a good habit or not. Should I pick up all superior flasks I find so I can turn them into glassblower prisms? EDIT: I did it! I found the shittiest Ventor's Gamble. Should I toss reroll orbs at it until it gets good? NachtSieger fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Sep 6, 2017 |
# ? Sep 6, 2017 09:40 |
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If there's room I'd love an invite for klakgivesup
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 10:43 |
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I have been playing SSF to take a break from my regular guy, and it is so much fun. If you find yourself getting bored with the regular league, I would recommend giving SSF a shot.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 10:54 |
NachtSieger posted:I've been doing this for a while and I dunno if it's a good habit or not. Should I pick up all superior flasks I find so I can turn them into glassblower prisms? I do, but im a filthy casual who picks up scrolls as well. You should be able to tune your loot filter to only pick up 10+ quality ones if you are that concerned.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 11:29 |
My rare vaaled chateau map rolled the demon mod thing and this guy that spawned immediately fills the screen with infinite skeletons and fire rings that kill my lvl88 SR dude near instantly
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 11:46 |
Ratios and Tendency posted:My rare vaaled chateau map rolled the demon mod thing and this guy that spawned immediately fills the screen with infinite skeletons and fire rings that kill my lvl88 SR dude near instantly That's Abaxoth.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 11:49 |
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Ratios and Tendency posted:My rare vaaled chateau map rolled the demon mod thing and this guy that spawned immediately fills the screen with infinite skeletons and fire rings that kill my lvl88 SR dude near instantly The End of All That Is
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 12:09 |
He's a dick. I lost like 40% xp and had to abandon the map.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 12:22 |
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Ratios and Tendency posted:He's a dick. I lost like 40% xp and had to abandon the map.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 12:30 |
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Ultima66 posted:I tried dropping the flask nodes for a few hours and determined that the extra mana pool those nodes give is really important. I don't know what your stats look like but the maximum leech rate is 20% of your max mana, which without those nodes is around 700, or 140 per second. Your mana regen without those nodes is like 14 or 15, so you regain about 155 mana per second at leech cap. My barrage costs 51 mana per use and fully buffed with the wand wheel I have 4.8 APS, which means Barraging burns 245 mana per second, a lot more than the max mana recovery rate. With the two Flask Charge Recovery/Mana clusters, I have 1100 max mana and 27 mana regen, giving me 247 max mana recovery, a bit more than enough to sustain the slightly slower Barrage. Regardless of whether or not bosses will survive for that long, it's drastically cutting down on the real Shaper DPS, which is what matters the most. Also it's just way more annoying to play like that in general even when not mashing Barrage on a single target, and feels just awful for QoL in general. Don't get me wrong I'd love to have Druidic Rite or Primal Spirit, I just speced into them and decided that id rather have more life instead. I should clarify my trees purposefully leave out stuff like extra life or mana because you should be able to tell when you need it and when you don't. Also, I think the jewel sockets work well for your build, because you have jewels that as far as I'm concerned do not exist lol. I've seriously been searching for dmg/aps/multi/life/res/stat combination of 4, and I've never had a shot at a multi one. No whoops for at least two weeks, and the ones I do get, when I go to buy them, they just raise the price to 50ex or something stupid. Anyway, do you have enlighten 4? That's how I manage with my 800 mana pool. Also keep in mind I'm level 91 lol. I've just been chaining shaper/atziris/vinktars and whatever red maps goons throw at me. 9 More levels and I'm surely going to grab Druidic Rite at some point. fully buffed my barrage is 4.12, but tbh ever since switching to Tempest, it's my KB that's the mana drainer, ESPECIALLY now that i dropped the lyco. 10bux fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Sep 6, 2017 |
# ? Sep 6, 2017 12:40 |
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deep dish peat moss posted:to be fair I think the real lesson here is that Bisco's should be everyone's first purchase when they start mapping. Yeah it's expensive and yeah it doesn't make you any stronger but it is literally the switch that needs to be flipped to start rolling in cash. I started using it on my golemancer last league and I can't imagine playing any character without it now. Looking at buying one now. Just to sanity check, its the item quantity roll from normals that I want more than the rarity from magic ones, right?
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 13:05 |
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Correct. Rarity is near useless.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 13:10 |
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I've abandoned my Blight/CA Trickster. It was very strong I just didn't like the play style. Doubled my investment on the 6L +3 bow I made for it at least. My new and likely final build for the league is so shamefully gimmicky I'm embarrassed to specify it right now. But it's gonna be good.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 13:30 |
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Are you the same dbk from the D3 goon guild years back?
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 13:43 |
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DemonMage posted:Correct. Rarity is near useless. To briefly expand, item drops work by selecting a base item, then applying your 'rarity' to the roll - so a white item is more likely to be magic or rare (maybe unique?) with higher rarity, but it's still a Glorious Plate or Coral Ring. For Currency drops, the Alteration Orb or Chaos Orb or whatever is the 'base item'. And there's no magic or rare version of an Alteration Orb. The game does not select a generic 'currency' roll and apply rarity to make it have a chance at a Mirror.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 13:49 |
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Goo P-Nut Sack posted:Are you the same dbk from the D3 goon guild years back? Yes, I took a few leagues off poe to play d3. The fact that I played d3, and enough to make top 25 barb one season will remain my dirty dark secret.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 13:57 |
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Playing PoE for the "first" time (i played a bit right when it released) and my HC Harbinger League ranger got squished by the act 3 end boss. The game is surprisingly fun, i have always thought it was a spergier D2 for people that couldn't quite manage to get over their D2 addiction but it doesn't really have much in common with D2 except being a loot centric isometric hack-n-slash. The passive tree is brilliant, so are the skill gem stuff. Im going to make a new character and take things a little bit more careful for my next character. What are good starter builds for HC? Preferably not something minion/totem based as i really hated D2 necromancer (mostly because the pets always hung out in the back) I found this page listing a bunch of builds but that webpage is fairly dependent on an already broad knowledge of PoE to know what is what. PoE builds sounds like M:TG or Hearthstone decks, really silly names that are not very descriptive. My favorite D3 builds are Barbarian with the whirlwind build that spits out a bunch of tornadoes as you go and frozen orb wizard.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 14:10 |
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Devor posted:To briefly expand, item drops work by selecting a base item, then applying your 'rarity' to the roll - so a white item is more likely to be magic or rare (maybe unique?) with higher rarity, but it's still a Glorious Plate or Coral Ring. Further, 100% quant effectively give you as many uniques as 100% rarity would (adding rarity on top of a lot quant can pay off - but the trade off in clear / kill speed is hard to justify).
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 14:34 |
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Ineptitude posted:What are good starter builds for HC? . Scorching Ray uhh Inquisitor, or Zerker, or Trickster? maybe Elementalist or Chieftain? anyway SR owns this league
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 14:47 |
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Thanks for the IIQ vs rarity info. Also the general speed mapping advice. I'm getting way more stuff this league than I have in others. Also, alt spamming jewels and regaling to get decent 3 stat jewels has been pretty lucrative on the side. Haven't worked up the courage to try slamming an exalt onto one, though.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 14:57 |
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10bux posted:Yes, I took a few leagues off poe to play d3. The fact that I played d3, and enough to make top 25 barb one season will remain my dirty dark secret. Haha what up cuz, this is Skeetskie I got top ten witch doctor on HC so we can share our shame
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 15:09 |
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Ineptitude posted:Playing PoE for the "first" time (i played a bit right when it released) and my HC Harbinger League ranger got squished by the act 3 end boss. You should probably not play hardcore while learning the game because bosses and enemies in later Acts can turbofuck you without warning if you don't know what to look out for.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 15:37 |
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Ineptitude posted:My favorite D3 builds are Barbarian with the whirlwind build that spits out a bunch of tornadoes as you go and frozen orb wizard. it sounds like you should be playing an Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone Slayer, friend
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 15:41 |
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the bitcoin of weed posted:it sounds like you should be playing an Ngamahu's Flame Cyclone Slayer, friend This is a very cheap build to do at this point as well, took me about 50C to fully equip my guy yesterday (plus some chroms/jewelers/fuses). Next step is to figure out how to get my cyclone guy into a bisco's.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 15:50 |
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NecroMonster posted:lmao, so I buy a bisco's put it on, go and run a couple of maps, and a far far far better bisco's drops for me this drat game Unless the market tanks drastically, you never lose money by investing in a highly sought after unique, you can always resell, you can also throw a divine at your old low-roll bisco and see if you randomize it close to perfect.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 15:55 |
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nerox posted:This is a very cheap build to do at this point as well, took me about 50C to fully equip my guy yesterday (plus some chroms/jewelers/fuses). Just wait til you check xoph's blood prices.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 16:10 |