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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline?
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The Big3 Tourney 67 22.41%
Will Lakers draft Ball 40 13.38%
Where will the Pauls go 54 18.06%
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? 41 13.71%
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking 97 32.44%
Total: 210 votes
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Hand Knit posted:

Mark Hendrickson is another player who played in both the NBA and MLB.

Wasn't Tracy Mcgrady a really good baseball player in high school?

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Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Bo Jackson could have played in the NBA if he wanted to

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012


What about NBA players' portability to track and field? Surely some of them could be high/long jump stars, or sprinters?

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
tbf he was on some MRA poo poo just before that so I'm assuming this is gonna get reversed into a curse
https://twitter.com/LILBTHEBASEDGOD/status/905110395349680128


RIP Jaylen

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Danny Ainge played actual major league baseball.

Manute Bol played hockey.

John Lucas played pro tennis.

Scott Burrell is the only athlete to be drafted in the first round of the NBA and MLB drafts.

Dave DeBusschere pitched for the White Sox for a year.

John Havlicek went to training camp with the Cleveland Browns when he was younger.

Pat Riley was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Carlosologist posted:

Zogo what's LeBron's z-score across your selected categories? I bet he's at least 1.5 to 2 standard deviations above average in each category

code:
LBJ's z-scores:

PTS 	3.29
TRB 	1.04
AST     2.84
STL     2.23
BLK	0.65
He needs ~9,100 TRBs and ~1,300 BLKs to reach 1.5 in all five categories. Clyde Drexler and Kobe Bryant are the only other two to have 2+ z-scores in PTS, AST and STLs.

Kevin Garnett and Julius Erving are the only two guys with 1.5+ in all five categories. A hypothetical guy with 2+ in each category would need: 21,901 PTS, 10,564 TRB, 6,004 AST, 1,648 STL, 1,557 BLK

If you add the z-scores across the five it looks like this:

code:
SUM		Player
17.08		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
15.62		Hakeem Olajuwon
14.45		John Stockton
14.10		Karl Malone
13.19		Kevin Garnett
13.14		Julius Erving
12.61		Tim Duncan
12.40		Jason Kidd
11.49		Artis Gilmore
11.18		Michael Jordan
11.12		Moses Malone
10.47		Shaquille O'Neal
10.19		Kobe Bryant
10.05		LeBron James
9.99		Patrick Ewing
Players who played before 1974 are underrated because STLs and BLKs weren't recorded. So just looking at PTS/TRB/AST it's:

code:
SUM		Player
11.48		Wilt Chamberlain
11.20		Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
9.86		Karl Malone
9.06		John Stockton
8.21		Oscar Robertson
8.07		Jason Kidd
7.83		Kevin Garnett
7.53		Moses Malone
7.35		Tim Duncan
7.22		Bill Russell
7.19		Kobe Bryant
7.17		LeBron James
7.03		Julius Erving
6.85		Elvin Hayes
6.80		Artis Gilmore

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

MourningView posted:

I think your perspective on what "most high school and jr highs" have might be slightly skewed

It's definitely possible. Is this just like a warm weather city thing? I guess I don't drive around inspecting schools but I went to six schools in my K-12 journey and all had a tennis court, even the ones in "bad" neighborhoods. Tucson seems pretty similar.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Wasn't Tracy Mcgrady a really good baseball player in high school?

He played a single independent league (here in Houston!) game, pitched poorly, and was banished to the land of winds and ghosts

The team is called the Sugarland Skeeters which I fend endlessly hilarious. I want to go to a game and start shouting skeet skeet skeet but I'm sure that's been done to death by now

e: Oh wait I was mistaken, he actually did pitch more than one game. He retired after getting his first strikeout

Intruder fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Sep 6, 2017

illcendiary
Dec 4, 2005

Damn, this is good coffee.

Punkin Spunkin posted:

tbf he was on some MRA poo poo just before that so I'm assuming this is gonna get reversed into a curse
https://twitter.com/LILBTHEBASEDGOD/status/905110395349680128


RIP Jaylen

Hoo boy the Twitter ratio on that one is disappointing

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




Patty Mills played Aussie Rules football and was apparently pretty good, let's assume that's true of all Australian NBA players.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Chairchucker posted:

Patty Mills played Aussie Rules football and was apparently pretty good, let's assume that's true of all Australian NBA players.

We including Australian NBA players from north of the Barassi line?

Chairchucker
Nov 14, 2006

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022




Schlesische posted:

We including Australian NBA players from north of the Barassi line?

If I say no, that only seems to rule out Aron Baynes.

So, no.

Hashtag Banterzone
Dec 8, 2005


Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM

Ainge was famous for his 105mph fastball that he never threw but often thought about throwing and told people he was thinking about using it.

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Rick posted:

It's definitely possible. Is this just like a warm weather city thing? I guess I don't drive around inspecting schools but I went to six schools in my K-12 journey and all had a tennis court, even the ones in "bad" neighborhoods. Tucson seems pretty similar.

There are almost 0 in K-8 schools here in Minnesota, though almost all of the decent sized high schools either have them, or they are attached to public parks that do. There are also a bunch of courts in the city at various parks, so either way I think you're right that courts are pretty common.

The barrier for Tennis is you need real instruction on form and body placement, and it probably needs to be 1 on 1, at least at some point. Basketball is more forgiving on that in general, and 1 coach can coach 12 kids pretty effectively for a longer time. If you like the game you can screw around pretty easy, and I bet a bunch of kids do, but if you want to get on a pro trajectory it probably does take more means than poverty and lower class people are able to put together.

BWV
Feb 24, 2005


I imagine all individual sports minus track are significantly more expensive as people strive to get better. Even something like hockey, which has a high barrier of entry, gets evened out because you're splitting costs with an entire team and more importantly, by the time you're like 16 (and somewhat good) you are technically getting paid to play and be trained (like $50 or something) when you join the OHL, Q, etc. Similarly, in football, baseball and basketball the training aspect for the most part is often folded into the structure of the leagues. It's not until much later that people get individual/private coaches and training, and in those cases its probably either b/c the parents are rich or the kid is so precocious that they think it'll lead to a scholarship. Of course there are tons of exceptions with guys like Bryce Harper and others who are being groomed to be a pro from day 1 but there are still a lot of avenues to make it big without spending a fortune on individual training.

In tennis especially, I imagine there are a lot of costs with getting the training you need to get to the level where you'd get sponsorship/endorsement to cover costs. There was a girl at my high school that basically stopped competing on the junior tour because her parents (who were middle class) didn't want to spend a fortune to move her to a warmer climate and pay for the intense training.

I also feel like individual sports like tennis have a higher opportunity cost and really take up a poo poo load of your time but i'm just guessing

BWV fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Sep 6, 2017

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Rick posted:

Tennis as a pro sport is weird because the structural classisim that exists in the sport in a lot of places on the planet diverts so many people from a sport that just at least in theory should be pretty wide spread; there's a tennis court in almost every midsized park and at most jr highs and high schools. A lot of basketball players have some physical traits that would at least give them the basic foundations to be good at the sport.

There are a lot of public courts but it costs serious money to be at the top of the sport. Lessons are expensive and people whose kids have pro aspirations often spend a ton of money on personal coaches.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Rick posted:

It's definitely possible. Is this just like a warm weather city thing? I guess I don't drive around inspecting schools but I went to six schools in my K-12 journey and all had a tennis court, even the ones in "bad" neighborhoods. Tucson seems pretty similar.

None of the four pre-college schools I went to had a tennis court. All had a football/soccer field and basketball court, though!

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee/status/905287653884661760

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Shear Modulus posted:

LeBron could probably have been a pro athlete in any other sport.

LeBron would have been a hall of fame TE.

He claimed he liked playing football more than basketball but obviously made the right choice. People who saw him play football said he was uncoverable.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
If you can play Basketball you should never ever pick football over it. Especially when the NBA allowed high school kids.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Lebron is fast enough to be a wideout no?

Why waste him blocking people on the line

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



How tall is IT really.

Also this more of a general sports question but why is every pro athlete trying to gently caress Mia Khalifa? Or are they all constantly sliding into IG/porn stars DMs and she just puts them on ahem "blast".

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

euphronius posted:

Lebron is fast enough to be a wideout no?

Why waste him blocking people on the line

He wouldn't be a blocking TE, think like Antonio Gates (he played basketball you know). LeBron is probably too tall and too big to be an effective NFL WR but he could split out of the formation and dominate the red zone as a tight end. It doesn't really matter, I'm sure he would have been an all pro at either position but big fast guys who can catch are usually moved to TE.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

zoux posted:



How tall is IT really.

Also this more of a general sports question but why is every pro athlete trying to gently caress Mia Khalifa? Or are they all constantly sliding into IG/porn stars DMs and she just puts them on ahem "blast".

It's the second part. And IT is 5 foot 7-8

BWV
Feb 24, 2005


Weird that IT's son is so much taller than him.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Lmao IT is barely taller than Charles Barkley

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Say this for IT, he's got a great hesi
http://i.imgur.com/9JrNdUo.gifv

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Hashtag Banterzone posted:

Ainge was famous for his 105mph fastball that he never threw but often thought about throwing and told people he was thinking about using it.

Lol. Hakeem was national team level keeper, Kobe and Grant Hill's first sports love was soccer

Femur
Jan 10, 2004
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
Why wouldn't Lebron be the best qb ever?

I mean I know why lovely hs coaches stick their best athletes at rb/wr, but were wasting his gifts here.

Femur fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Sep 6, 2017

AggressivelyStupid
Jan 9, 2012

Dexo posted:

Lmao IT is barely taller than Charles Barkley

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Brolander posted:

ive got this theory that basketball is like jazz

Ok, now we talking. Who's up there in the stratosphere with Bird Parker, Miles, Coltrane?

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Mr. Mambold posted:

Ok, now we talking. Who's up there in the stratosphere with Bird Parker, Miles, Coltrane?

Wayman Tisdale

BWV
Feb 24, 2005


If basketball is jazz than Tyler Hansborough is the drunk guy that falls and knocks over the drum kit.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch
"Darius" Miles "Ricky" Davis

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Mr. Mambold posted:

Ok, now we talking. Who's up there in the stratosphere with Bird Parker, Miles, Coltrane?

I dunno, but this playlist I've been listening to the last couple days is pretty baller: https://play.google.com/music/r/m/Lo2blfnqmkkiiqbroplishwjnj4?t=In_the_Second_Line

e: I wish this was the music that was played at last year's All Star instead of the shameful performances we go.

Kibner fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Sep 6, 2017

BWV
Feb 24, 2005


Bud Powell is one of my all timers.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
Doubt this will have much of an effect, but it's a start:

https://twitter.com/JonSolomonAspen/status/905448610841714688

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



morestuff posted:

Wayman Tisdale

:911:

edit

Kibner posted:

I dunno, but this playlist I've been listening to the last couple days is pretty baller: https://play.google.com/music/r/m/Lo2blfnqmkkiiqbroplishwjnj4?t=In_the_Second_Line

e: I wish this was the music that was played at last year's All Star instead of the shameful performances we go.

This is noice

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Kibner posted:

Doubt this will have much of an effect, but it's a start:

https://twitter.com/JonSolomonAspen/status/905448610841714688

Yeah, I appreciate them putting it together. Step one is standardizing on something.

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morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
Long but good article by Tom Haberstroh on IT's injury. It seems pretty likely he's been playing on a busted hip since December, not March like the Celtics announced.

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