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Aethernet posted:Best way of beating an Awakened Empire is containment until you're ready to take them on, as well as the Galactic Contender perk. Let them take your worlds, and use your fleet to intercept reinforcements to their main fleet - don't take it head on. You can easily get qny tech you want this way. Send troops to retake any captured world, and max out on defensive troops for any world under threat. If you're intercepting their reinforcements you'll eventually bleed them dry, leaving their main fleet stuck bombarding a single world. So, the first thing they did was declare war on 3 other factions who are defence pact'd together, then started their armada into their space (apparently they hated these guys more than me) Would it be smart to let them have their war at the other side of the galaxy, build up my fleet in the mean time, then hit them hard when they are far enough away to hit their home planets?
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kaffo posted:So, the first thing they did was declare war on 3 other factions who are defence pact'd together, then started their armada into their space (apparently they hated these guys more than me) If you think you can hit 50% or so warscore before they respond then go for it, otherwise you're probably best off actually helping the other empires by taking back any conquered planets to keep their warscore down. If they take more space, they'll have a higher fleet cap and even faster production. You really don't want them to expand. Apparently in 1.8 this will be less of a risk, as AEs will eventually collapse under the weight of their own decadence.
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Who gave those uppity spiritual psionic AI dweebs the ability to trigger the end of the cycle? I was just hive minding my own business and then blammo, le shroudening.
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Aethernet posted:If you think you can hit 50% or so warscore before they respond then go for it, otherwise you're probably best off actually helping the other empires by taking back any conquered planets to keep their warscore down. If they take more space, they'll have a higher fleet cap and even faster production. You really don't want them to expand. lol I am so turbofucked if my game's AE ever turns its stinkeye on me, they were on the opposite side of the galaxy from me and just completely chewed up their (totally deserving rear end in a top hat) neighbors and now they've got like a quarter of the galaxy.
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YF-23 posted:It's their best selling game, to my knowledge, and it makes sense since sci-fi has a lot more mainstream appeal than history. Leading a butterfly blood-court to triumphant victory over the entire galaxy is way more entertaining than converting the pope to blood sacrifice.
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kaffo posted:TLDR; Any advice to actually fight an awakened empire? Last game I found myself in a situation where I simply didn't have the strength to meaningfully resist an AE because I was hardpressed by the Unbidden at the time. I just accepted subjugation, and then waited for them to attack someone else. When they did so they split up their fleet (the AI will do this against anyone that has a tiny fleet), then positioned my fleet around one of the fleets, then ran around picking them off before they could reassemble. Only one that wouldn't work against is the one who makes you sign some drat galactic peace treaty, Xenophile I think, because you might need to declare random wars on assorted people to get fleet access.
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Wiz has a poll on the next major priority for Stellaris development: https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/905167053723770880 Bafflingly, diplomacy is winning. Go and vote if you think war is better than peace.
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Aethernet posted:Wiz has a poll on the next major priority for Stellaris development: Making diplomacy more interesting will make war more interesting so uh
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Yeah ... I voted body pillows because war and diplomacy are a wash. That's why. No, really. Stop looking at me like that.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:40
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Just lol if you voted for anything but body pillows
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Sep 5, 2017 22:47
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I can't believe that body pillows are losing out here. The blorg dream may well be over.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Just lol if you voted for anything but body pillows True fans already sleep next to their lifesize Mercedes pillow. 
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Give us mandatory pampering or give us death!
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Gotta say 90% of fanbases would have chosen body pillows outright as the joke option, but Paradox's fans care too much to succumb fully to that trap.
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As a goon, Wiz should be quite familiar with the pointless 'Goku' option in every poll on here. Oddly enough I'm not interested in war, diplomacy and body pillows as being the next focus but I guess if I to choose I'd pick war. Those categories are so wide it could mean almost anything though.
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Weird thing just happened: I had the option to terraform a frozen world through an anomaly (the anomaly turned it into a terraforming candidate). I ended up remembering this decades later and ended up turning it into a size 29 planet. Any way I can actually see all of the squares, or is it a bug?
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The first step to fixing war is implementing Wiz's FTL vision, anyway.
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funktopus posted:Weird thing just happened: I had the option to terraform a frozen world through an anomaly (the anomaly turned it into a terraforming candidate). I ended up remembering this decades later and ended up turning it into a size 29 planet. Any way I can actually see all of the squares, or is it a bug?
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funktopus posted:Weird thing just happened: I had the option to terraform a frozen world through an anomaly (the anomaly turned it into a terraforming candidate). I ended up remembering this decades later and ended up turning it into a size 29 planet. Any way I can actually see all of the squares, or is it a bug? There are a few avenues to getting >25 size planets, but the game only can have up to a 5x5 grid for any planetary surface. Just pretend large tracts of land are inhospitable even after the terraforming or something, since 25 is all you get.
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Ah I see. I'm playing unmodded, so it was surprising. I'm pretty fine with a 25 tile planet anyway, so it's definitely something I can deal with. I also got a 6 tile planet with the same anomaly. Wasn't exactly in a hurry to use that one.
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What... what would a Stellaris Body Pillow be? Asking for a friend.
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nessin posted:What... what would a Stellaris Body Pillow be? Asking for a friend. Blorg I mean there are always those three races that show up in trailers, but come on. SkySteak fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Soup du Jour posted:The first step to fixing war is implementing Wiz's FTL vision, anyway. The Quantum Body Pillow Drive?
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Yadoppsi posted:I know if you take the Syncretic Evolution civic and start on Earth your proles will be Neo-Chimps as if the Humans won in Planet of the Apes; I think it's a homage to David Brin's Uplift series. The Neo-Chimps (by that specific name) were the first species uplifted by humanity, followed by the Neo-Dolphins, Neo-Dogs, and a disastrous experiment with Neo-Orcas.
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Aethernet posted:Wiz has a poll on the next major priority for Stellaris development: But war is just the continuation of diplomacy by other means!
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Right? And bodypillows are for when you fail at both!
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Though Clausewitz would win the fame, Jomini's thoughts on body pillows were perhaps the more enduringly valuable.
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Make love not war, so body pillows would be the obvious choice. I don't have an account for whatever social media that is so I can't vote. Blorgs are the Stellaris mascot afterall. 
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If by diplomacy they mean espionage, then yes, I'm all for it.
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funktopus posted:. Any way I can actually see all of the squares, or is it a bug? When I had this happen a while back I looked into it and some people claimed the AI can actually build stuff on those overflow tiles. I don't know if that's actually true, but you could hand it off to a sector and see if the production adds up.
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Finally adding espionage would make diplomacy a lot more interesting at least. Industrial sabotage is something I long for.
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Talking tech trees from earlier, I wish it was clearer what leads to flak. Mega-engineering is another one because I never ever research the space stations meaning I missed it in my first post-utopia game.
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Tbf my genetically superior butterflies are going to have a hard time infiltrating the mammalian hivemind next door.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Tbf my genetically superior butterflies are going to have a hard time infiltrating the mammalian hivemind next door.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Tbf my genetically superior butterflies are going to have a hard time infiltrating the mammalian hivemind next door.
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Espionage might be cool, as long as they stay away from spies as distinct agents like in Civ/TW. Micromanaging individual units gets tedious fast when your empire is huge
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War is probably more in need of attention right now; diplomacy is dull right now but there's only a few cases where it's straight-up broken, while war is fundamentally poo poo right now.
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Ephemeron posted:Bruce Sterling's short story "The Swarm" had an excellent implementation of that concept (and a neat twist on hive minds in general).
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Main Paineframe posted:War is probably more in need of attention right now; diplomacy is dull right now but there's only a few cases where it's straight-up broken, while war is fundamentally poo poo right now. Splicer fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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