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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Opt is Modern-legal now, this is big. I mean its worse than slight of hand, right? Well, I guess it is instant....
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Sickening posted:I mean its worse than slight of hand, right? Well, I guess it is instant.... Instant speed is a big big deal
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Sep 6, 2017 14:52
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What was the last standard-legal (semi)decent single mana filtering cantrip?
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Sep 6, 2017 14:54
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Rinkles posted:What was the last standard-legal (semi)decent single mana filtering cantrip? Ponder in M12. Before it was Preordain in M11. And during their tenures around Scars block we had some of the most consistent Ux standard decks in history, including Caw-Blade.
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Rinkles posted:What was the last standard-legal (semi)decent single mana filtering cantrip? Assuming you don't count Oath of Nissa? You have to go all the way back to Ponder in M12.
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Sickening posted:I mean its worse than slight of hand, right? Well, I guess it is instant.... Instant and also Scry's before draw which could be important, whereas Serum Visions draws prior to a deeper scry. I don't hate it.
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Sep 6, 2017 15:06
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Of course you don't hate Opt, it's been a dedicated player since 2000.
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Sep 6, 2017 15:08
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I guess we know what the next card to be banned from Modern Storm is.
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80s James Hetfield posted:Thopter Engineer is not in standard (I wish it was) Whirler Virtuoso, sorry. suicidesteve posted:I'm going to sell my Japanese foil Opts and retire! I actually just got a English foil Opt at Hareruya in August. They have a "foiled out" pack in a vending machine for...I want to say 5 bucks? That and a EMA Animate Dead were the good ones. Now this is making me want to buy a full set of old (non-foil) ones. edit: impulse bought 4 French Opts (Option!) GoutPatrol fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Sep 6, 2017 15:19
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Of course you don't hate Opt, it's been a dedicated player since 2000. Has it though? I assume you mean pauper?
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Sep 6, 2017 15:19
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I quite like that Duress art.
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Sep 6, 2017 15:20
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PrinnySquadron posted:I quite like that Duress art. I think it will look pretty good in foil.
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Sep 6, 2017 15:23
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The TCC video that those spoilers came from is pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYFyfGTvU4g
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Sep 6, 2017 15:27
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So Grixis control is looking better and better w/ Gearhulks and Bolas as finishers, perhaps?
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Sep 6, 2017 15:30
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Sep 6, 2017 15:36
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I'd just like to thank WotC for finally giving me Opt in modern like I've been asking for years. I'd also like to thank them for doing it long after I gave up on all of my decks that would have wanted it.
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Sep 6, 2017 15:37
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It's good they opted to print it.
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Sep 6, 2017 15:38
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Tainen posted:Um... excuse me? Well that seems very good in standard
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Sep 6, 2017 15:41
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TheKingofSprings posted:Well that seems very good in standard I would say Samut is better and no one plays her (except me as a 1-of in Temur Energy.) If Dino synergy is really viable in standard sure, but I don't know if having a 3/3 is worth it.
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Sep 6, 2017 15:48
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GoutPatrol posted:I would say Samut is better and no one plays her (except me as a 1-of in Temur Energy.) If Dino synergy is really viable in standard sure, but I don't know if having a 3/3 is worth it. An ETB that results in two similarly strong bodies is generally very worth it and has been in way higher power level standards (see Jund and Broodmate Dragon)
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Sep 6, 2017 15:50
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C-Euro posted:I guess we know what the next card to be banned from Modern Storm is. RIP Baral
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GoutPatrol posted:I would say Samut is better and no one plays her (except me as a 1-of in Temur Energy.) If Dino synergy is really viable in standard sure, but I don't know if having a 3/3 is worth it. Samut puts less power into play and is more vulnerable to spot removal.
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GoutPatrol posted:I would say Samut is better and no one plays her (except me as a 1-of in Temur Energy.) If Dino synergy is really viable in standard sure, but I don't know if having a 3/3 is worth it. I am scratching my head to how you are even coming to this comparison. The dino isn't even hamstrung by legendary status.
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Sep 6, 2017 15:56
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Excited for Opt.
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https://twitter.com/saffronolive/status/905444928930578432
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Sep 6, 2017 15:58
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functional errata is loving stupid, especially here where it's just "for fun"
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Sep 6, 2017 16:01
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Looks like it's mainly Lizard -> Dinosaur, plus straight-up adding Dinosaur to some things that weren't Lizards. With the one exception being Deathmist Raptor, which is no longer a Beast because...?
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evilweasel posted:functional errata is loving stupid, especially here where it's just "for fun" You're right, this affects all the Lizard-tribal cards. Dinosaurs are cool, watch Jurassic Park like the rest of us.
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Sep 6, 2017 16:04
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I assume the deathmist raptor one was to allow MTGfinance folks to make a little money. The EDH market has been probably the best money maker of the past year.
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Tainen posted:Um... excuse me? Card seems good. It's besties with Rhonas.
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Hah, I was idly musing about this yesterday. Deathmist Raptor specifically. (I don't like functional errata either)
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TheKingofSprings posted:An ETB that results in two similarly strong bodies is generally very worth it and has been in way higher power level standards (see Jund and Broodmate Dragon) The Jund deck would be built fundamentally different to what they want a Naya dino deck to be. There is no Blightning to clear the way. I am saying there does not appear to be enough of a deck to make Dinosaur tribal better than Temur Energy, which wouldn't play this over a Glorybringer (I'd assume.) Unless something really changes, I don't see how a deck that looks to be built around 7 drop dinos can work.
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GoutPatrol posted:The Jund deck would be built fundamentally different to what they want a Naya dino deck to be. There is no Blightning to clear the way. I am saying there does not appear to be enough of a deck to make Dinosaur tribal better than Temur Energy, which wouldn't play this over a Glorybringer (I'd assume.) Unless something really changes, I don't see how a deck that looks to be built around 7 drop dinos can work. This is a generically strong card. On it's own.
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If I were playing a Beast tribal deck and someone pulled up the errata list on my Deathmist Raptor I would stop playing magic with that person. In reality I don't think the beast distinction would matter outside of some cubes maybe. Definitely would have been cleaner to just make it a Dinosaur Beast
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GoutPatrol posted:The Jund deck would be built fundamentally different to what they want a Naya dino deck to be. There is no Blightning to clear the way. I am saying there does not appear to be enough of a deck to make Dinosaur tribal better than Temur Energy, which wouldn't play this over a Glorybringer (I'd assume.) Unless something really changes, I don't see how a deck that looks to be built around 7 drop dinos can work. Can you wait for the set to be spoiled before making these types of calls? Seems wiser.
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here's a random question: fungusaur has been printed with two different mechanics: originally and now, it gets +1/+1 immediately after it is dealt damage, in revised-5th edition, it gets +1/+1 at the end of turn if it was dealt damage that turn. what the gently caress happened where they decided to just change how the card actually works in revised, then changed it back years later?
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Sep 6, 2017 16:12
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Sweet, I get to use my favorite Duress art in standard again. Kolaghan giving Zurgo a stern walking to is my favorite Duress art.
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For a moment I got excited that I could play Opt in Modern. Opt. Wizards has finally broken me.
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Sickening posted:Can you wait for the set to be spoiled before making these types of calls? Seems wiser. No I'll Mcmagic this. I don't think this will see as much play as people here think.
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evilweasel posted:here's a random question: fungusaur has been printed with two different mechanics: originally and now, it gets +1/+1 immediately after it is dealt damage, in revised-5th edition, it gets +1/+1 at the end of turn if it was dealt damage that turn. what the gently caress happened where they decided to just change how the card actually works in revised, then changed it back years later? The design philosophy around functional errata has varied quite a bit over the years. I believe the modern philosophy is "functionally equivalent to the most recent printing". You can see this most notably with Loxodon Warhammer - when they first came out with Lifelink, they updated a bunch of old cards to use Lifelink, even when they resulted in functional changes. Later, they decided that was stupid, and returned them all to their printed functionality - except Loxodon Warhammer had been reprinted with the new wording, and so it stayed with the "most recent printing" Lifelink version. I guess fungusaur got reprinted at a time when they decided that cards should maintain the original functionality, which is why it reverted to the original wording. No idea why it would have changed in the first place though.
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