Zoran posted:

incorrect, because the prequels are the most searing indictment of the neoliberal world order in any popular media from the last 20 years

etalian posted:

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmjsKLeWyDY

Willa Rogers posted:

the verrit stuff has jogged my memory about that pseudo-org last year that published the list of "fake news sites" like the intercept. The wapo was citing it as a definitive source for a hot second before people pointed out that it was like one guy in a basement or something.

what was that site and is it still around? I'm guessing it also was a daou/brock operation.

Frijolero posted:

laffo Remember when centrists invented FAKE NEWS and now it's a right-wing talking point?

Frijolero posted:

propornot?

The journos who decided only WaPo and NYT are cool and good lol

ThndrShk2k posted:

Not a cop, an auror.
Similar to being someone hired to capture and fight nazis, but not a wartime soldier. A special agent of the government

Frijolero posted:

laffo Remember when centrists invented FAKE NEWS and now it's a right-wing talking point?

Frijolero posted:

laffo Remember when centrists invented FAKE NEWS and now it's a right-wing talking point?

Frijolero posted:

https://twitter.com/Residente/status/905496257745039364

Bernardo Sanchez is going to run and win in 2020. Puerto Rico will be liberated. Reggeaton will be good again. Awoouu!

zegermans posted:

that wasn't an invention, it was a real thing, though not nearly as big as people made it out to be. I recall a few stories getting major traction and even making its way to the mouths of my racist coworkers.

"Michelle Obama hired her own mother as a live-in maid on the government dime" was one of the ones I remember.

quote:

One PropOrNot tweet, dated November 17, invokes a 1940s Ukrainian fascist salute “Heroiam Slava!!” to cheer a news item on Ukrainian hackers fighting Russians. The phrase means “Glory to the heroes” and it was formally introduced by the fascist Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) at their March-April 1941 congress in Nazi occupied Cracow, as they prepared to serve as Nazi auxiliaries in Operation Barbarossa. As historian Grzgorz Rossoliński-Liebe, author of the definitive biography on Ukraine’s wartime fascist leader and Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera, explained:

“the OUN-B introduced another Ukrainian fascist salute at the Second Great Congress of the Ukrainian Nationalists in Cracow in March and April 1941. This was the most popular Ukrainian fascist salute and had to be performed according to the instructions of the OUN-B leadership by raising the right arm ‘slightly to the right, slightly above the peak of the head’ while calling ‘Glory to Ukraine!’ (Slava Ukraїni!) and responding ‘Glory to the Heroes!’ (Heroiam Slava!).”

Two months after formalizing this salute, Nazi forces allowed Bandera’s Ukrainian fascists to briefly take control of Lvov, at the time a predominantly Jewish and Polish city—whereupon the Ukrainian “patriots” murdered, tortured and raped thousands of Jews, in one of the most barbaric and bloodiest pogroms ever.

Willa Rogers posted:

I think CC was (rarely) right when he said she's not gonna run in 2020; slamming popular dems pols like bernie, biden and obama pretty much proves she doesn't give a rat's rear end about her future in politics.

The Little Kielbasa posted:

Sounds pretty alt-left to me.

Also, K E I T H + Shanley is the duo I never knew I needed until I saw it.
https://twitter.com/shanley/status/905504458645409793

Edit: better link https://twitter.com/shanley/status/905303335078592512

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

http://www.alternet.org/media/anonymous-blacklist-promoted-washington-post-has-shocking-roots-ukrainian-fascism-eugenics-and

Shear Modulus posted:

are you sure she recognizes that attacking obama, biden, and bernie would be bad for her image, this is hillary we're talking about

Shear Modulus posted:

are you sure she recognizes that attacking obama, biden, and bernie would be bad for her image, this is hillary we're talking about

Willa Rogers posted:

Willa Rogers posted:

We formed PropOrNot as an effort to prevent propaganda from distorting U.S. political and policy discussions. We hope to strengthen our cultural immune systems against hostile influence and improve public discourse generally. However, our immediate aim at this point is to empower the American voter and decrease the ability of Russia to influence the ensuing American election.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

When I said "sieg heil" I mean, hail victory - of pro-euro liberal democracy

Hulk Krogan posted:

Unless she's decided it's the Democratic party that let her down and she doesn't need them, which...lmao.

anime was right posted:

we've literally forgotten about real fake news and its incredible.

loquacius posted:

Wait, does Shanley actually work for Keith Ellison, because that doesn't make sense, and if not, why do people think she does

Hulk Krogan posted:

Unless she's decided it's the Democratic party that let her down and she doesn't need them, which...lmao.

anime was right posted:

lol fake news owns

originally just a subdemo of clickfarm websites, they were mostly blogs created by international communities for ad money in countries that are dirt poor. they literally make poo poo up wholesale for clicks (similar to how supermarket tabloids function) just to pay bills. eventually, at some point, these were used for political purposes as well. i can't tell when they basically became actual propaganda (around 2015 seems to be the inflection point) but they use the same methods: make up poo poo about hillary clinton or w/e for clicks from republicans, but this also served to influence bubbles like olds on facebook. you could literally make a website called like realnews2150.nz and write a headline called "hillary clinton ate a devil dog, making her literally the devil" or w/'e and republicans would actually link this trash on fb. it was also used to legitimize bot talking points. however, the second people brought this up, the difference between the actual clickfarm/propaganda sites and actual news became blurred bc things like breitbart which, while propaganda orgs, do not function like fake news websites do. they sometimes report real news and slant it heavily -- or invent poo poo wholesale, but they're not the same kind of website. so now breitbart is fake news. oh, the intercept discussed the leaked dnc emails. fake news. etc etc.

fake news is super real and still influencing us but like, no one cares anymore because they devauled the term for things they don't like. so now there's like a million actual fake news websites out there controlling discussions and no ones doing poo poo about it lol

everything owns

comedyblissoption posted:

for some people this is controversial, but the NYT et al are fake news.

for something uncontroversial to back this up, remember their biased coverage in the lead-up to the iraq war. based on internal memos, it was revealed that MSNBC fired Phil Donahue because he criticized the iraq war.

there's tons of other bullshit all throughout history, but that is just a recent very prominent and what should be an uncontroversial example.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

When I said "sieg heil" I mean, hail victory - of pro-euro liberal democracy

Willa Rogers posted: