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This is a solid bridge deal. A Typical Goon posted:It makes perfect sense with the leaks that Chevy signed months ago and Maurice's terms are unknown. I'd expect Maurice is just a one year extension to ensure he's not a 'lame duck' and Chevy was never going to get fired/be at any risk for his job for at least another season. The draft and develop strategy when the Jets came back was not only Chevy it was the Chevy/Chipman plan, Chipman isn't going to fire Chevy the season before it's all supposed to come together. Chevy shouldn't get another chance at hiring another coach. He's the 10th most tenured GM and in his time at the helm they've made the playoffs once and won a total of 0 playoff games, and while the future is bright, it honestly feels like we've been saying that for a while about Winnipeg. I get that he's a family friend or something, but gently caress.
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Ginette Reno posted:I just wish it was more of a judgement call. If an offsides happens and then a goal happens a minute later who gives a gently caress, y'know? This is how I feel too. If somebody comes in offside and scores immeadiately it shouldn't count. But if it goes behind the net, to the half wall, to the point, to the front of the net, back to the point and the goes in 90 seconds later, gently caress it, count that poo poo. Also offside reviews take too loving long and slow things down.
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Offside Challenge Pandora's Box probably never would have been opened if the linesman would have called Briere offside vs Pens in 2012. drat, that was terrible. In case you forgot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjKdpanE4aI
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Jordan7hm posted:This is a solid bridge deal. The Jets were probably in the worst position in the league when he took over, they had an awful prospect pool and like 6 legitimate NHL talents on the roster. He's built the team on the fly and never really tanked and I think he's done pretty good work with the draft and free agency at least. Chevy deserves a chance at seeing what the team he built can do, if the Jets are awful again then he'll probably be out soon, I don't really expect that to happen though the Jets to me have a very solid roster Ehlers - Scheifele - Laine Connor -Little - Wheeler Perreault - Lowry - Armia Hendricks - Copp - Dano Morrissey - Trouba Kulikov - Byfuglien Enstrom - Myers Mason Hellebuyck
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.Spec posted:Stempniak gets traded at the deadline it seems like every year so I gotta give this one to him. No kidding. I always want the Pens to nab him up for scraps and looking on his wiki page I see that he already did in the 13-14 season and I just have zero memory of this for some reason. Also that Bennett contract is really good. And those Jets lines look really good, too. Shame that Myers never got his rookie form back. I imagine he'll be taking a major pay cut if he wants to stick around in 2 years. Good Soldier Svejk fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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A Typical Goon posted:The Jets were probably in the worst position in the league when he took over, they had an awful prospect pool and like 6 legitimate NHL talents on the roster. He's built the team on the fly and never really tanked and I think he's done pretty good work with the draft and free agency at least. Chevy deserves a chance at seeing what the team he built can do, if the Jets are awful again then he'll probably be out soon, I don't really expect that to happen though the Jets to me have a very solid roster You really think that goaltending is getting the Jets anywhere?
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Krime posted:Offside Challenge Pandora's Box probably never would have been opened if the linesman would have called Briere offside vs Pens in 2012. lol at Orpik
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Mason helps the Jets in goal but that's a tough job for any goalie when you're on the penalty kill all loving game
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Sep 7, 2017 04:06
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I'll trade you one shiny Jimmy Howard for one Kyle Connor or Jacob Trouba
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Sep 7, 2017 04:22
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I think the jets look ok on paper but yeah a lot of their success will depend on which Mason shows up this season
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Levitate posted:lol at Orpik I thought the same thing.  Washington giving him that contract.
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If a play is just a hair offside and nobody notices at first, does it really make a difference to the play? (I say no)
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I really get peeved at the plays that were "offside" 45 seconds prior, then a team scores and gets it called back.
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Two inches on or offside is such a minor factor in the game it should never be reviewable. Let the refs call it as they see it and move on with life because if you get scored on I guarantee the fuckup was somewhere else on the ice and you just looking for excuses. Then pay attention to poo poo that actually makes the game stupid, like defensive zone delay of game or defensive interference on a dump in.
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Ginette Reno posted:It kinda owns that the Penguins won two Stanley Cups on the back of successful offsides challenges Gonna go on a limb and say incorrect, it does not own in any way.
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Change the goddamned offside calls to plane of the blueline and not the skate having contact on the ice. I know this is reversing like 100 years of tradition or some poo poo but it would make offsides challenges about 10 million times faster.
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Krime posted:I thought the same thing. Which is the worse contract: Brooks Orpik or Andrew MacDonald?
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Orpik, and the MacDonald contract was horrendous.
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Abolish the Coach's Challenge. NHL can't even get those reviews right half the time, so why even bother having them.
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A Typical Goon posted:
I really dig this roster. Goaltending leaves something to be desired but who loving cares about goaltending. Hopefully they stink bad out of the gate and Maurice gets the boot in favour of like literally anyone else real quick.
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grack posted:You really think that goaltending is getting the Jets anywhere? The Jets with average goaltending probably would have made the playoffs 2 or 3 more times, I think Mason can give them .915 goaltending and that's all they'll need
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Being in the Central doesn't help much either.
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It doesn't matter who's in goal when you're taking 10+ penalty minutes per game while having a bottom third PK.
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xzzy posted:=Then pay attention to poo poo that actually makes the game stupid, like defensive zone delay of game or defensive interference on a dump in. Holy loving poo poo yes. That horseshit pisses me off. Every team does it, and it loving sucks offense out of the game like nobody's business.
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JoelJoel posted:Being in the Central doesn't help much either. Ya, the Jets look fine to me on paper but I don't see them being a playoff team just because of the division. Mason probably helps, maybe Laine becomes a 50 goal scorer, and maybe Connor turns out to be a star too, but that's a lot of maybes and right now the only team they're clearly better than in that division is Colorado. I'd say Winnipeg probably falls somewhere in the 4-6 range for that division and that's tough when a max of 5 teams could make the playoffs, especially since the Pacific has been getting better as well making "The Central sends 5 teams every year" less of a guarantee.
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grack posted:Change the goddamned offside calls to plane of the blueline and not the skate having contact on the ice. I know this is reversing like 100 years of tradition or some poo poo but it would make offsides challenges about 10 million times faster. I have no idea why people are in favour of this idea, it just shifts the issue forward a few inches. At least touching the ice is cut and dry. Trying to figure out if a skate blade floating in space is technically over the blue line or not with television cameras is drat near impossible. They can't even consistently do it with the goal line and that's approximately 1/10th the size and has a camera pointing directly down on it from above. shyduck posted:https://twitter.com/theScoreNHL/status/905548220108906496 That's a step in the right direction, but you know every close call is going to go the coach's way so the refs can't be accused of deciding the game
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DJExile posted:It doesn't matter who's in goal when you're taking 10+ penalty minutes per game while having a bottom third PK. Yeah it's this.
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DJExile posted:It doesn't matter who's in goal when you're taking 10+ penalty minutes per game while having a bottom third PK. Isn't shorthanded save percentage pretty random too? Or is it the other way around? I always get my fancy boops mixed up
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ThinkTank posted:I have no idea why people are in favour of this idea, it just shifts the issue forward a few inches. At least touching the ice is cut and dry. Trying to figure out if a skate blade floating in space is technically over the blue line or not with television cameras is drat near impossible. They can't even consistently do it with the goal line and that's approximately 1/10th the size and has a camera pointing directly down on it from above. They don't use the TV feeds. They look at cameras in line with the blue lines. The broadcasts always try to figure it out with TV feeds while they're waiting for the decision, but that's because they don't have access to the blue line camera feeds.
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Aphrodite posted:They don't use the TV feeds. They look at cameras in line with the blue lines. They should give us access to those. It's like they're sitting on the Zapruder film without the two frames missing where JFK gets hit by another sniper. I want the truth, NHL.
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A Typical Goon posted:The Jets with average goaltending probably would have made the playoffs 2 or 3 more times, I think Mason can give them .915 goaltending and that's all they'll need Chevy's biggest failing was signing Pavelec. That alone should put his job on the line, because average goaltending probably would have got the Jets into the playoffs at least twice more. Jamwad Hilder posted:Ya, the Jets look fine to me on paper but I don't see them being a playoff team just because of the division. Mason probably helps, maybe Laine becomes a 50 goal scorer, and maybe Connor turns out to be a star too, but that's a lot of maybes and right now the only team they're clearly better than in that division is Colorado. I'd say Winnipeg probably falls somewhere in the 4-6 range for that division and that's tough when a max of 5 teams could make the playoffs, especially since the Pacific has been getting better as well making "The Central sends 5 teams every year" less of a guarantee. Actually the Jets were really good against the Central last year. The only central team they had a losing record against was Minnesota. Laine scored a hat trick every time they played Dallas.
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Ginette Reno posted:Isn't shorthanded save percentage pretty random too? Or is it the other way around? I always get my fancy boops mixed up The most repeatable save percentage is apparently all situations. Save percentage has got poo poo repeatability. Short handed is pretty random though.
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Duck Rodgers posted:Laine scored a hat trick every time they played Dallas. Dallas' goaltending being what it was, i'm surprised he didn't score more, to be honest
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I'm looking forward to see how Dallas will do this season with Actual Good Goaltending. Still need to work on that defence though.
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Aphrodite posted:They don't use the TV feeds. They look at cameras in line with the blue lines. The NHL war room uses a bunch of sources of footage including the blue line cameras to determine offsides and other reviews. They're not great (partially because there's a good chance a linesman or player/players will be blocking one or both of them at any given time, plus it's still not easy to tell. It's not like the cameras send out a laser that can tell exactly where a foot is in 3D space. I've used this example before but it's the only clear shot of blueline camera footage the NHL has ever released. Going with "blue line is a plane" rule, is this guy onside or offside here? https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/720432196201394176 It's clearly offside with the "foot touching the blueline" thing, but it's now a nightmare with regards to the blueline being a plane. It's hardly the quick fix solution people seem to think it will be. It'll lead to just as long and complicated reviews, and would mean changing a decades old rule. So why bother?
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Duck Rodgers posted:Actually the Jets were really good against the Central last year. The only central team they had a losing record against was Minnesota. Laine scored a hat trick every time they played Dallas. too bad they can't play the entire season against their own division then
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DJExile posted:linesmen stop dead on the blue line as well, usually rendering at least 1 of the cameras useless just give them a chest camera like police wear and hope they don't turn it off to
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I just looked it up, there's only one blue line camera per blue line which makes sense because one would have to be on the bench unless they built them into the boards.
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