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homeowner | 39 | 22.41% | |
renter | 69 | 39.66% | |
stupid peace of poo poo | 66 | 37.93% | |
Total: | 174 votes |
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Ghostlight posted:Another Morgan lawsuit filed. https://twitter.com/understatesmen/status/905260932888125440
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 03:47 |
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# ? May 22, 2024 06:35 |
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I'm catching up on the debates - just finished the first one and starting the second. Bill English really talks to a lot of people. How can he still be so bad at it?
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 03:53 |
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To be fair to Gareth if David Seymour is in the debate he has a case to be too, act is polling at like negative 3 percent so essentially seymour gets a national tv platform to campaign for his electorate seat which is an unfair advantage to him anyway. At least TOP will get some party votes maybe.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 05:03 |
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Seymour is there because Act have a current seat. Dunne on the other hand is out of the race so why is he bothering to turn up?
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 05:22 |
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It's not even comparable though. Seymour is currently in power due to having won an electorate - and due to how our system works, that's infinitely more important than how many more party votes TOP is getting than ACT because TOP's party votes are almost certainly all going to be thrown in the bin on election day given that they can't even muster the 3% bar set by the debate let alone the 5% threshold for gaining a seat.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 05:31 |
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If people want to complain about representation and debates how about starting with how we still have National/Labour only debates?
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 05:36 |
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Ghostlight posted:It's not even comparable though. Seymour is currently in power due to having won an electorate - and due to how our system works, that's infinitely more important than how many more party votes TOP is getting than ACT because TOP's party votes are almost certainly all going to be thrown in the bin on election day given that they can't even muster the 3% bar set by the debate let alone the 5% threshold for gaining a seat. Yeah but Seymour is effectively a single candidate contesting one seat, his party votes are negligible and will also be thrown in the bin so why should he get a spot on a national TV debate. He should be debating the other Epsom candidates. Neither of them should be in the TV debate.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 06:21 |
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Taitale posted:If people want to complain about representation and debates how about starting with how we still have National/Labour only debates? Yeah that really fucks me off, it's re-enforcing the idea that we have to have 2 big parties and a few stragglers.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 07:34 |
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Because if he wins the electorate - again - he will have a seat in parliament and therefore is a relevant voice in regard to the direction of a future government.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 07:36 |
Wandle Cax posted:Yeah but Seymour is effectively a single candidate contesting one seat, his party votes are negligible and will also be thrown in the bin so why should he get a spot on a national TV debate. He should be debating the other Epsom candidates. Neither of them should be in the TV debate. ACT always gets way disproportionate media coverage *~for some reason~*.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 07:42 |
the big kid debates are about appearing prime ministerial more than anything. the minor party ones seem more policy-focussed. speaking of, there's a spinoff debate happening in 15 minutes here (with Bennett and Davis) https://www.facebook.com/thespinofftv/
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 07:46 |
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Gareth Morgan has a seat on the Spinoff's deputy leaders debate tonight
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 08:03 |
gareth morgan fucks up the literal easiest question
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 08:16 |
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Kelvin Davis is really bad at debates e: lol Gareth Morgan: "What I see here is politicians grabbing onto personal favourites" *peppers his party's policy with personal favourites* voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Sep 6, 2017 |
# ? Sep 6, 2017 08:31 |
this debate is awful jones is just a total charlatan exmarx fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 08:51 |
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/96510103/the-nz-defence-force-manipulated-the-battle-of-baghak-video The NZDF edited audio in the video from the battle of Baghak, replacing dialogue with gunfire
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 10:11 |
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Gareth is done after the election, Simmons will take over TOP leadership, it seems. They might actually gain some ground next election.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 10:26 |
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El Pollo Blanco posted:Gareth is done after the election, Simmons will take over TOP leadership, it seems. They might actually gain some ground next election. Simmons is a good guy, I've done a bunch of improv shows with him.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 11:54 |
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My brother vouches for him for the same reason, but it's going to be tough to lead the Gareth Morgan Party Presents Gareth Morgan to any kind of post-Gareth Morgan identity.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 12:02 |
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Yeah I hear nothing but good things about Simmons. I hadn't heard of him before TOP but everybody who meets him seems to love him.
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# ? Sep 6, 2017 21:47 |
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https://twitter.com/AnaSamways/status/905568655395586048
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 02:33 |
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What was there? I'm assuming a political billboard
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 02:41 |
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https://twitter.com/AnaSamways/status/904869107769556993
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 02:43 |
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National billboard with homeless people sheltering under it. Edit:beaten Still it was a pretty good metaphor for the National Govt.
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 02:44 |
lol
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 05:55 |
https://twitter.com/henrycooke/status/905665143924604928 lol 2
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 06:51 |
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I'unno if TVNZ needs more funding, but at least they won't be getting it from a taxpayer.
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 06:56 |
I feel like a stupid minority for saying this but I think that TOP will actually do a lot better without gareth, provided they don't just collapse completely. I think there are a substantial amount of people who like the idea of a new party with a genuinely different approach to the slowly-congealing grn-lab-nat-nzf spectrum, and if they can manage to actually learn some poo poo from this go around and come up with some meaningful policy whilst also shrugging off the autistic corpse of the cat killer they might do ok.
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 07:00 |
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Another great result for blinglish from Colmar Brunton heading into this debate: National - 39 (down 2) Labour - 43 (steady) NZF - 9 (up 1) Greens - 5 (steady) voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Sep 7, 2017 |
# ? Sep 7, 2017 07:08 |
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I like that poll, hopefully it's underestimating the greens just a little bit though, too close to that cut off point.
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 07:18 |
lol 3 https://twitter.com/ColmarBruntonNZ/status/905672628286898176
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 07:20 |
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Just switched on the Stuff debate and Bill is just shouting over Jacinda non-stop now
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 07:23 |
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The audience are shouting over Bill and it's cracking me up
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 07:31 |
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Bill English on climate change: Here is a detailed plan that we've drawn up at the bottom of the cliff, and we're working with local bodies to coordinate the positioning of the ambulances.
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 07:41 |
Guy who couldn't lead his party out of a wet paper bag and got the job via his bosses' DNF is crumbling under actual pressure? Well I never.
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 07:42 |
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holy shitsomebody call the cops because Jacinda is killing it out there
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 08:04 |
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Jacinda is destroying him, and the crowd make me proud of my neighbours.
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 08:06 |
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Stuff has a banner headline saying "Jacinda and Bill in bare knuckle brawl" but I don't want to click and find out it's a metaphor.
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 08:07 |
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Stacey Kirk, the Stuff reporter posting comments under the stream, is extremely National-biased and it's starting to grate me.
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 08:10 |
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It didn't work out so well for Bill last time he got into a fist fight
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 08:11 |