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walgreenslatino posted:Atlanta's sky-high HIV rates are not the product of the gentrifying white hipsters lol You fell for the bait and now whip will use your response to make an unrelated racist post about his experience in the medical field for which he was banned from fyad for doing so repeatedly.
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:I don't really think you can blame weirdo artists and musicians for moving out of their parent's basements or collapsing houses into one of the few neighborhoods they can afford. Blame the upper class rich young folks who embrace late capitalism because they want to live in the new hot apartments with more yoga studios and bookstores over ethnic restaurants and convenience stores. wouldn't be a problem if the loving musicians would do their part to keep the crime rate up and burglarize the millionaire brats
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Detroit used to be one of the shining examples of a cosmopolitan American city. While it was far from perfect (such as ever-present housing discrimination affecting black communities), Detroit neighborhoods used to have everyone under the sun living side-by-side from whites to Mexicans to Jews to blacks in relative harmony. This all changed after the city literally burned to the ground during the 1967 race riots. White people were like "gently caress this" and left by the thousands and thousands to the suburbs and turned their back on the city. All the black folks and other minorities were like "what about us????" and that's been the story of Detroit's urban decay to this day. The state of Michigan and city of Detroit governments have done nothing meaningful for what's been almost 5 decades at this point, thanks to systemic racism and corruption. You have entire swathes of the incredibly massive city with abandoned houses, burned-down factories, and deteriorating train stations in loving 2017, since no one in power ever gave a poo poo. Ever heard of ruin porn? Detroit's endless history is perfect for ruins sightseeing and it's the saddest thing to see. Detroit is to the point where the city area is too large to support its perpetually shrinking population. The population has cratered from more than 1.5 million residents in the 70s and 80s to maybe 700k at most today. There's just no population density left. So rioting was... counterproductive?
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General Dog posted:So rioting was... counterproductive? save Detroit, bus a rioter to Ann Arbor
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Sep 7, 2017 21:16
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It is the masses of designer label ladened urban explorers, the curators of ukelele art, the refugees from the suburban hellscape of america who are the true underpriviledged and poor. furthermore- 
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Sep 7, 2017 21:37
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I too don't care if poor people are forced out and displaced because as we all know they aren't actually human.
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Cephalectomy posted:It is the masses of designer label ladened urban explorers, the curators of ukelele art, the refugees from the suburban hellscape of america who are the true underpriviledged and poor. furthermore- Lol
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Sep 7, 2017 22:42
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Yeah op it's real hard to see the case against yuppies acting like the real estate version of a biblical plague
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Sep 7, 2017 22:43
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Those people are, if you'll excuse my French, rude as heck ! Get a load of this piece of poo poo Nancy boy who learns foreign languages like French. What a sack of poo poo
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Sep 7, 2017 22:54
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everything thats goes up is insanely expensive. the state uni is tearing poo poo down and putting up large dorms, like several large scale building projects over a few miles. I kinda hate my roommates but rent here is p cheap and why god is housing so expensive! And to think banks got the ability to sell subprime mortgages again
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Sep 7, 2017 23:36
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:wouldn't be a problem if the loving musicians would do their part to keep the crime rate up and burglarize the millionaire brats
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Sep 7, 2017 23:46
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Cephalectomy posted:It is the masses of designer label ladened urban explorers, the curators of ukelele art, the refugees from the suburban hellscape of america who are the true underpriviledged and poor. furthermore- I feel like the Hipsters you're decrying or whatever don't tend to work in oil patches and make six figures like Roughnecks do. In fact, that's probably why they're buying cheap, lovely urban land instead of a nice house out in the boonies. Edir: this was a stupid post, hipsters dont have money to buy land. Waffle House fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Sep 8, 2017 |
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Don't interrupt the white people hate, man. You should know by now that white people are all simultaneously oil roughnecks and artisanal cereal bar eaters
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Sep 7, 2017 23:55
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Most of the neighborhoods being "gentrified" had a historic white presence and 30 years later they start coming back and everyone moans for some reason
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Sep 7, 2017 23:57
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Kill whitey
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Sep 7, 2017 23:58
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How could someone with a weird haircut who spends their time learning the ukelele ever be poor? Such a marketable skill...
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Sep 7, 2017 23:58
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LinYutang posted:Most of the neighborhoods being "gentrified" had a historic white presence and 30 years later they start coming back and everyone moans for some reason It's like people don't like being priced out of neighborhoods they live in, weird Tell me more about historically white neighborhoods
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Sep 7, 2017 23:59
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Adept Nightingale posted:It's like people don't like being priced out of neighborhoods they live in, weird displacement caused by gentrifying is basically a myth http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._as_people.html
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Sep 8, 2017 00:01
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It doesn't have to be widespread to be a problem, and while it's happening on a limited scale that headline moving on to call it a "myth" is just hyperbole: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/this-is-what-happens-after-a-neighborhood-gets-gentrified/432813/
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Sep 8, 2017 00:03
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the only reason people think there's an epidemic of gentrification is because New Yorkers love to complain loudly about dumb poo poo gentrification isn't a problem and should basically be encouraged as much as possible
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Sep 8, 2017 00:10
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All I know is that Seattle is too expensive so someone should fix that when they get a xhance
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Sep 8, 2017 00:16
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fruit on the bottom posted:All I know is that Seattle is too expensive so someone should fix that when they get a xhance Buy an RV and live in parking lots until they kick you out or fine you. Bing bang boom problem solved
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Sep 8, 2017 00:18
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Adept Nightingale posted:It's like people don't like being priced out of neighborhoods they live in, weird Just moved into a neighborhood my great-grandparents left. Feels good. No regrets, no guilt, MY ANCESTORS LIVED HERE>>@@@!
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Sep 8, 2017 00:36
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Oyak posted:Just moved into a neighborhood my great-grandparents left. Feels good. No regrets, no guilt, MY ANCESTORS LIVED HERE>>@@@! heritage without hate? not in my america, commie!
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Sep 8, 2017 00:47
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Move 30+ miles outside the city where life's meaningful
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Sep 8, 2017 01:02
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LinYutang posted:the only reason people think there's an epidemic of gentrification is because New Yorkers love to complain loudly about dumb poo poo its not just NY
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LinYutang posted:the only reason people think there's an epidemic of gentrification is because New Yorkers love to complain loudly about dumb poo poo You moved to Harlem and called the police on the ice cream man
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Sep 8, 2017 01:13
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My neighborhood is in the middle of some heavy gentrification. Downside is that cool places like the head shop and record store across the street from me are being pushed out. Meanwhile we have 3 crazy expensive organic grocery stores in a 5 block radius. Upside is I'm gonna sell my house to some idiot yuppie in a couple years for way more than it should be worth.
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Sep 8, 2017 01:24
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*dying from lactic acid poisoning, skin turning dark purple* local industry dying... replaced by... avocado toast shops...
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fruit on the bottom posted:All I know is that Seattle is too expensive so someone should fix that when they get a xhance 
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That Robot posted:One thing I know about this country is that time and time again the law and society has said that people have freedom of movement. people who used to live there and sell presumably did so because the gentry coming in offered them a better price than those who previously made up the community could, and got a benefit out of it as a result (you might argue 'well, to beat out the others, the buyer only needed to offer $1 more than the competing, local buyers' - but human psychology means the owners would've forced out a little more than that). anyway, as long as the gentry aren't burning crosses outside people's homes to get them to move it's people choosing to do what they want and it's okay.
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Neurosis posted:people who used to live there and sell presumably did so because the gentry coming in offered them a better price than those who previously made up the community could, and got a benefit out of it as a result (you might argue 'well, to beat out the others, the buyer only needed to offer $1 more than the competing, local buyers' - but human psychology means the owners would've forced out a little more than that). anyway, as long as the gentry aren't burning crosses outside people's homes to get them to move it's people choosing to do what they want and it's okay. I mean, the real issue here is that property ownership in this country as a percentage of the population is getting lower with every new generation, and it's a real problem when your landlord is making these decisions and you can just gently caress off to another town, sorry about your job, I guess. People should take a glance at San Francisco, and lower income people commuting in some cases 4-6 hours to get to jobs in the city they can no longer afford to live in. Adept Nightingale fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Sep 8, 2017 |
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Stale Saltines posted:My neighborhood is in the middle of some heavy gentrification. Downside is that cool places like the head shop and record store across the street from me are being pushed out. Meanwhile we have 3 crazy expensive organic grocery stores in a 5 block radius. Upside is I'm gonna sell my house to some idiot yuppie in a couple years for way more than it should be worth. Do you live in Oakland or Brooklyn? Either way, kudos on your foresight, and sorry about the real estate gains tax you'll probably have to pay.
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Sep 8, 2017 02:46
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The property in city centers was always valuable, it was just depressed in practice by racist white people who fled when black people moved there. Now younger and less racist whites have just paved the way for older white people with money to look past the demographics of the area and decide living in a city is good again. Income stratification does obviously make the disruption caused by this a lot worse than it would otherwise be though.
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I dunno who came up with the everyone has a yard, two cars and benzos version of the American dream but it always sucked, young people just figured it out over the past decade.
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I don't think poor people are appreciative enough of gentrification. Like I grew up in a nice neighborhood, when people ask where I am from they are like "Oh, nice." But "Freedman's town"? "Little Mexico?" That just sounds depressing but now the people that used to live there can say they grew up in State Thomas or Harwood and they sound bougie instead of poor.
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Three Olives posted:I don't think poor people are appreciative enough of gentrification. Like I grew up in a nice neighborhood, when people ask where I am from they are like "Oh, nice." But "Freedman's town"? "Little Mexico?" That just sounds depressing but now the people that used to live there can say they grew up in State Thomas or Harwood and they sound bougie instead of poor. when the revolution comes we will make you watch as we smash your juicero and keurig and paint dicks on the outside of your condo. that will learn you to be bougie and well off
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Adept Nightingale posted:People should take a glance at San Francisco, and lower income people commuting in some cases 4-6 hours to get to jobs in the city they can no longer afford to live in. But then there's that rents are easily 2-3k a month in oakland/penisula/sf and people need to move out to rent out in like antioch or something after being evictct, but there's at least public transit options there (even tho they can take over an hr each way, at least it's better than +driving and not that bad). even richmond is not a long bart ride and rents are closer to ~1k/month. that renting supply is more nimby-ism and being against building anything for the past 30 years because ~character~
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