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Phuzun posted:2013 Leaf and it has heaters to protect from freezing. There is a massive difference between the range you see at freezing (30f) and sub zero. Where do you think the battery gets the power to heat itself? I assume that one would plug it in, when you get home. And sure, if you're running the heater that takes energy.
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VideoGameVet posted:I assume that one would plug it in, when you get home. The car is doing as a battery protection mechanism. If it's that cold you're really looking at substantial range hits.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:The car is doing as a battery protection mechanism. If it's that cold you're really looking at substantial range hits. I bought this up only because (apparently not true) that the Leaf didn't have thermal battery management.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:The car is doing as a battery protection mechanism. If it's that cold you're really looking at substantial range hits. Exactly. It kicks in during the worst parts, when it's around -30f and windy. I'll be at work and get a text that it's on. I've never noticed much difference in range between that and 5 to 10 degrees warmer, though that is still drat cold. Anything above freezing is pretty nice and heater is easy on the mileage.
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VideoGameVet posted:What EV? EV's with thermal management of batteries shouldn't have this issue. What EV doesn't have significant range loss in cold temperatures?
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VideoGameVet posted:I bought this up only because (apparently not true) that the Leaf didn't have thermal battery management. It has very poor thermal management, especially when dealing with high ambient temperatures.
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Those hacks at car and driver didn't disclose that they were showered with coke and hookers by the ghost of Louis Chevrolet himself before this fake news about the bolt being the second best selling electric car so far this year, and outselling the model S in august. http://blog.caranddriver.com/chevrolet-bolt-ev-on-pace-to-outsell-every-electric-car-except-tesla-model-s/ It's pathetic that you can't even go searching for positive Tesla news without finding bullshit fake articles about the bolt doing well. Powershift fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Sep 8, 2017 |
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Powershift posted:Those hacks at car and driver didn't disclose that they were showered with coke and hookers by the ghost of Louis Chevrolet himself before this fake news about the bolt being the second best selling electric car so far this year, and outselling the model S in august. A Bolt drove by me the other night and it was so quiet. Like the tires didn't make hardly any road noise.
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Ohrmazd posted:A Bolt drove by me the other night and it was so quiet. Like the tires didn't make hardly any road noise. Powershift posted:ghost of Louis Chevrolet 
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That's interesting. I'd assumed that reasonably priced EVs from major manufacturers were already outselling the S, given pricing and distribution advantages.
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VideoGameVet posted:Shut Up And Take My Money who the gently caress wants this and not an actual new build gas powered e-type
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Powershift posted:Those hacks at car and driver didn't disclose that they were showered with coke and hookers by the ghost of Louis Chevrolet himself before this fake news about the bolt being the second best selling electric car so far this year, and outselling the model S in august. I made the mistake of reading the comments on that article... hoo boy.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:who the gently caress wants this and not an e-type reinterpreted as a futuristic, thoroughbred electric
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Yeah seriously I would actually buy that E-type, which puts it worlds ahead any other electric car.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I made the mistake of reading the comments on that article... hoo boy. It's impressive how bad they are.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:who the gently caress wants this and not an actual new build gas powered e-type For all the deserved praise and adulation heaped on the E-type, you never really hear much about its engine.
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Sep 8, 2017 14:00
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I think a good example of this is when Hammond took his out for a nice weekend in Monte Carlo and the engine destroyed itself. Looked great on the side of the highway, though.
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I can hardly think of a worse classic layout to redo. That huge hood might look good, but it's entirely a waste of space with an electric drive train. Likely an impractical luggage compartment, at best a battery house with hopefully a small, discreet lid somewhere for wiper fluid. Rolls are also going to do electrics, which works really well in spirit but they too have an aesthetic of a huge hood matching the acres of land the owner roams with his fox hunting party. The Brits can do modern engineering if they want to, hopefully they come up with something modern as well. A modern EV Land Rover will be great. I'd like to see a Lotus original as well - the Tesla Roadster proves it works.
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It's not meant to be practical you dolt.
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If you are not insane, this is not the sub forum for you to be posting in. We are not imaginative and the forum title is not ironic. We are literally ill with Automotive.
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Ola posted:I can hardly think of a worse classic layout to redo. That huge hood might look good, but it's entirely a waste of space with an electric drive train. Likely an impractical luggage compartment, at best a battery house with hopefully a small, discreet lid somewhere for wiper fluid. Rolls are also going to do electrics, which works really well in spirit but they too have an aesthetic of a huge hood matching the acres of land the owner roams with his fox hunting party. The Brits can do modern engineering if they want to, hopefully they come up with something modern as well. 
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Ola posted:A modern EV Land Rover will be great. I'd like to see a Lotus original as well - the Tesla Roadster proves it works.
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roomforthetuna posted:I was against you until this point. A Lotus is better than a long-nosed Jaguar. Better car != More desirable car
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Ola posted:I can hardly think of a worse classic layout to redo. That huge hood might look good, but it's entirely a waste of space with an electric drive train. Likely an impractical luggage compartment, at best a battery house with hopefully a small, discreet lid somewhere for wiper fluid. Rolls are also going to do electrics, which works really well in spirit but they too have an aesthetic of a huge hood matching the acres of land the owner roams with his fox hunting party. The Brits can do modern engineering if they want to, hopefully they come up with something modern as well. The landie is already basically a thing http://bollingermotors.com/ look at that frunk! as far as the jag goes, the beauty of electric cars and modular batteries is shape doesn't matter, you can make the car whatever shape you want, whatever shape is most pleasing, without having to worry about the mechanicals.
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That Jaguar EV powertrain will fit in any XK-powered car, so the possibilities are kind of amazing. It would be sacrilege to do it to to a real one, but I'd kill for a C-type reissue or sanction II car powered by this.
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eyebeem posted:It's not meant to be practical you dolt. I didn't mean that it was unpractical, an original E-Type is unpractical as well. I meant that it wasn't ... well, itself. Not all it can be. The long hood is there because it's filled to the brim with V12, like a long nosed Griffon-engined Spitfire. If it's just a huge space for luggage, the aesthetic doesn't really work. But piling on someone for a perceived slight against the E-Type is fair play, I set myself up for that one. That's awesome!
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what the gently caress the long hood is there because it's filled with a straight six, the Series 3 does not count The XK straight six is a pretty good engine, don't know why people are slagging on it. The styling of course is the main draw on the E-Type but the 4.2 is very respectable.
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Ola posted:I didn't mean that it was unpractical, an original E-Type is unpractical as well. I meant that it wasn't ... well, itself. Not all it can be. The long hood is there because it's filled to the brim with V12, like a long nosed Griffon-engined Spitfire. If it's just a huge space for luggage, the aesthetic doesn't really work. 
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As a non car person I'm infatuated by the Chevy Bolt. It seems that they put some of their best people on it and knocked out of the park yet also aren't marketing it. I don't mind the styling and appreciate the cargo volume. Also it seems weird to me that people would prefer EV drivetrains to be shoe-horned into cars that were designed from the ground up for internal combustion engines, like the E-Golf.
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Detroit electric who currently converts the lotus elise to electric got a $1.8b investment and seems to be jumping in with both feet. wide stance posted:As a non car person I'm infatuated by the Chevy Bolt. It seems that they put some of their best people on it and knocked out of the park yet also aren't marketing it. I don't think it's that people want ev drivetrains shoehorned in regular cars, i think it's just that people want an EV that just looks like a regular car. They probably aren't marketing it because there is no profit in it. They don't want to compete with their own profitable models. Anybody who wants an electric car will know about it, anybody who just wants a car might not, and that's the way the like it.
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I'm like 99 percent sure that you can't just remanufacture the original E-type design anyway, because it won't comply with modern safety standards (e.g. pedestrian impacts on the hood). There's a reason cars are all so chunky and slab-sided these days.
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Sagebrush posted:I'm like 99 percent sure that you can't just remanufacture the original E-type design anyway, because it won't comply with modern safety standards (e.g. pedestrian impacts on the hood). The big issue with pedestrian hood impacts is the distance between the hood and the engine. Much less of a concern with an electric car.
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I drive an XF currently and I'd maybe get another Jaguar if they brought the fuckin XF wagon here and let me get an electric one, that would be bad rear end. It's really cool that Jaguar is doing this with the commitment to at least making everything hyrbid. I'm not really interested in an SUV though even though the i-Pace looks cool as heck so I'll probably just end up getting an allroad or a 3-series wagon if I go that route. I guess I just live in the wrong place to not want an SUV.
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Sagebrush posted:I'm like 99 percent sure that you can't just remanufacture the original E-type design anyway, because it won't comply with modern safety standards (e.g. pedestrian impacts on the hood). Jaguar (and others) use an exemption for historical recreations. http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/small-volume-carmakers-get-big-break-motor-vehicle-safety-act Specifically, the law allows small-volume automakers to construct up to 325 replica cars a year subject to federal regulatory oversight, SEMA said in a statement. “Replica cars resemble production vehicles manufactured at least 25 years ago. The U.S. currently has just one system for regulating automobiles, which was established in the 1960s and designed for companies that mass-produce millions of vehicles. The law recognizes the unique challenges faced by companies that produce a small number of custom cars.” Not all those challenges are covered in the new bill. Engines powering the cars still have to meet emissions.
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wide stance posted:It seems that they put some of their best people on it and knocked out of the park yet also aren't marketing it. This is going to be etched on GMs gravestone.
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VideoGameVet posted:Engines powering the cars still have to meet emissions. That shouldn't be a problem, unless Trump's clean coal becomes dirty when it's charging a battery.
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Electrifying classic cars seems like a great project. These cars are already toys or at least not your only vehicle, so you don't care about a limited range. And aside from extreme cases, you can probably improve performance by going electric. I've often thought it'd be really fun to electrify an original 912. Obviously I'm far from the first to think of this combo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJLdzRJdKrs
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bawfuls posted:Electrifying classic cars seems like a great project. These cars are already toys or at least not your only vehicle, so you don't care about a limited range. And aside from extreme cases, you can probably improve performance by going electric.
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Vitamin J posted:There are so many combinations of motors and old cars it's basically limitless. All those old German cars with magnesium lined cylinders and Bosch mechanical injection and broken automatic transmission before the leather is broken in start coming to mind. Benz 500SEL, BMW 8-series, 7-series, VW Phaeton, E46, SL500, I'm just looking at Craigslist for stuff under $4000 now lol.
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