Trump Thread II: The man make a tweet

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Kehveli: Apr 1, 2009; Push It Like You Push Your Girlfriend

At least in :finland:

the closest thing to a credit score is probably a binary system where you're on "good" status by default. If you don't pay your bills, rent or stuff like that you get a few threatening letters and extra fees first and after a while it becomes a legal matter for the state when it becomes apparent you're not going to pay. Then it goes "bad" until you've paid what you owe and after a certain period of time without new gently caress ups you're on good status again. If it's gone you're gonna find it harder to find an apartment, can't buy stuff on credit and stuff like that which is a pain but I know people who hosed up a whole lot in their youth and are now in a debt restructuring program where they will end up paying maybe 10% of their total amount owed over a few years and none of them are homeless or anything. It basically means you have to pay more stuff upfront and have a harder time finding an apartment.

Note: This is from a pov of a 25-year old so it fucks you up more if you're like a home owner or trying to buy one or some poo poo probably idk. Also sure if you're taking out a large loan they look at more stuff but generally if you're just renting and being a lovely millennial stereotype like me then this is all you care about.

Kehveli fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Sep 8, 2017

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coyo7e: Aug 23, 2007; by zen death robot

WeAreTheRomans posted:

"credit score anxiety" is a peculiarly American phenomenon. Not that European banks won't factor in your lending history when considering you for a loan or mortgage, but it's much less of a punitive system and basically no-ones give a poo poo about knowing their credit score

It's another form of creeping privatization in America. It's actually very cyberpunk when you think about it. People are paying for a service they don't want and which is punitive and which actually makes it more difficult for them to get things done.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 11:43

Fuck Whitey: Nov 9, 2016; by SA Support Robot

Well-being for all is not a dream. It is possible, realizable, owing to all that our ancestors have done to increase our powers of production.

We know, indeed, that the producers, although they constitute hardly one-third of the inhabitants of civilized countries, even now produce such quantities of goods that a certain degree of comfort could be brought to every hearth. We know further that if all those who squander to-day the fruits of others’ toil were forced to employ their leisure in useful work, our wealth would increase in proportion to the number of producers, and more. Finally, we know that contrary to the theory enunciated by Malthus — that Oracle of middle-class Economics — the productive powers of the human race increase at a much more rapid ratio than its powers of reproduction. The more thickly men are crowded on the soil, the more rapid is the growth of their wealth-creating power.

Thus, although the population of England has only increased from 1844 to 1890 by 62 per cent, its production has grown, to say the least, at double that rate — to wit, by 130 per cent. In France, where the population has grown more slowly, the increase in production is nevertheless very rapid. Notwithstanding the crises through which agriculture is frequently passing, notwithstanding State interference, the blood-tax (conscription), and speculative commerce and finance, the production of wheat in France has increased fourfold, and industrial production more than tenfold, in the course of the last eighty years. In the United States the progress is still more striking. In spite of immigration, or rather precisely because of the influx of surplus European labour, the United States have multiplied their wealth tenfold.

However, these figures give yet a very faint idea of what our wealth might become under better conditions. For alongside of the rapid development of our wealth-producing powers we have an overwhelming increase in the ranks of the idlers and middlemen. Instead of capital gradually concentrating itself in a few hands, so that it would only be necessary for the community to dispossess a few millionaires and enter upon its lawful heritage — instead of this Socialist forecast proving true, the exact reverse is coming to pass: the swarm of parasites is ever increasing.

In France there are not ten actual producers to every thirty inhabitants. The whole agricultural wealth of the country is the work of less than seven millions of men, and in the two great industries, mining and the textile trade, you will find that the workers number less than two and one-half millions. But the exploiters of labour, how many are they? — In England (exclusive of Scotland and Ireland), only one million workers — men, women, and children — are employed in all the textile trades, rather more than half a million work the mines, rather less than half a million till the ground, and the statisticians have to exaggerate all the figures in order to establish a maximum of eight million producers to twenty-six million inhabitants. Strictly speaking the creators of the goods exported from Britain to all the ends of the earth comprise only from six to seven million workers. And what is the sum of the shareholders and middlemen who levy the first fruits of labour from far and near, and heap up unearned gains by thrusting themselves between the producer and the consumer, paying the former not a fifth, nay, not a twentieth, of the price they exact from the latter?

Nor is this all. Those who withhold capital constantly reduce the output by restraining production. We need not speak of the cartloads of oysters thrown into the sea to prevent a dainty, hitherto reserved for the rich, from becoming a food for the people. We need not speak of the thousand and one luxuries — stuffs, foods, etc. etc. — treated after the same fashion as the oysters. It is enough to remember the way in which the production of the most necessary things is limited. Legions of miners are ready and willing to dig out coal every day, and send it to those who are shivering with cold; but too often a third, or even two-thirds, of their number are forbidden to work more than three days a week, because, forsooth, the price of coal must be kept up? Thousands of weavers are forbidden to work the looms, though their wives and children go in rags, and though three-quarters of the population of Europe have no clothing worthy the name.

Hundreds of blast-furnaces, thousands of factories periodically stand idle, others only work half-time — and in every civilized nation there is a permanent population of about two million individuals who ask only for work, but to whom work is denied.

How gladly would these millions of men set to work to reclaim waste lands, or to transform illcultivated land into fertile fields, rich in harvests! A year of well-directed toil would suffice to multiply fivefold the produce of dry lands in the south of France which now yield only about eight bushels of wheat per acre. But these men, who would be happy to become hardy pioneers in so many branches of wealth-producing activity, must stay their hands because the owners of the soil, the mines, and the factories prefer to invest their capital — stolen in the first place from the community — in Turkish or Egyptian bonds, or in Patagonian gold mines, and so make Egyptian fellahs, Italian exiles, and Chinese coolies their wage-slaves.

So much for the direct and deliberate limitation of production; but there is also a limitation indirect and not of set purpose, which consists in spending human toil on objects absolutely useless, or destined only to satisfy the dull vanity of the rich.

It is impossible to reckon in figures the extent to which wealth is restricted indirectly, the extent to which energy is squandered, that might have served to produce, and above all to prepare the machinery necessary to production. It is enough to cite the immense sums spent by Europe in armaments for the sole purpose of acquiring control of the markets, and so forcing her own commercial standards on neighbouring territories and making exploitation easier at home; the millions paid every year to officials of all sorts, whose function it is to maintain the rights of minorities — the right, that is, of a few rich men — to manipulate the economic activities of the nation; the millions spent on judges, prisons, policemen, and all the paraphernalia of so-called justice — spent to no purpose, because we know that every alleviation, however slight, of the wretchedness of our great cities is followed by a very considerable diminution of crime; lastly, the millions spent on propagating pernicious doctrines by means of the press, and news “cooked” in the interest of this or that party, of this politician or of that company of exploiters.

But over and above this we must take into account all the labour that goes to sheer waste, in keeping up the stables, the kennels, and the retinue of the rich, for instance; in pandering to the caprices of society and to the depraved tastes of the fashionable mob; in forcing the consumer on the one hand to buy what he does not need, or foisting an inferior article upon him by means of puffery, and in producing on the other hand wares which are absolutely injurious, but profitable to the manufacturer. What is squandered in this manner would be enough to double our real wealth, or so to plenish our mills and factories with machinery that they would soon flood the shops with all that is now lacking to two-thirds of the nation. Under our present system a full quarter of the producers in every nation are forced to be idle for three or four months in the year, and the labour of another quarter, if not of the half, has no better results than the amusement of the rich or the exploitation of the public.

Thus, if we consider on the one hand the rapidity with which civilized nations augment their powers of production, and on the other hand the limits set to that production, be it directly or indirectly, by existing conditions, one cannot but conclude that an economic system a trifle more enlightened would permit them to heap up in a few years so many useful products that they would be constrained to cry — “Enough! We have enough coal and bread and raiment ! Let us rest and consider how best to use our powers, how best to employ our leisure.”

No, plenty for all is not a dream — though it was a dream indeed in those old days when man, for all his pains, could hardly win a bushel of wheat from an acre of land, and had to fashion by hand all the implements he used in agriculture and industry. Now it is no longer a dream, because man has invented a motor which, with a little iron and a few pounds of coal, gives him the mastery of a creature strong and docile as a horse, and capable of setting the most complicated machinery in motion.

But, if plenty for all is to become a reality, this immense capital — cities, houses, pastures, arable lands, factories, highways, education — must cease to be regarded as private property, for the monopolist to dispose of at his pleasure.

This rich endowment, painfully won, builded, fashioned, or invented by our ancestors, must become common property, so that the collective interests of men may gain from it the greatest good for all.

There must be EXPROPRIATION. The well-being of all — the end; expropriation — the means.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 11:50

WeAreTheRomans: Feb 23, 2010; by R. Guyovich

Kehveli posted:

Note: This is from a pov of a 25-year old so it fucks you up more if you're like a home owner or trying to buy one or some poo poo probably idk. Also sure if you're taking out a large loan they look at more stuff but generally if you're just renting and being a lovely millennial stereotype like me then this is all you care about.

Mortgage applications can get pretty granular - like they'll go through your account statements and question the fact that you have an online gambling account, or that you always but a bottle of liquor at the off-licence on a Friday evening. A few years ago I became mindful of these things, proactively shut down my PaddyPower account, and only pay cash at the off-licence. Somewhat intrusive, but much preferable to the NINJA loans which helped fuel the GFC

# ? Sep 8, 2017 11:52

Dejawesp: Jan 8, 2017; You have to follow the beat!

Old James posted:

How is credit tracked in countries that don't have a national identification number, like the SSN?

Is that critical infrastructure or just speeds up the system?

In Sweden anyway the government has a debt collection agency with authority greater than the police. All debt that go unpaid eventually end up there. If they call on you to pay and you don't then you end up on a list of deadbeat lenders and that's public record. Anyone can check if someone is on that list for free.

So when you want to take a loan or get credit somewhere they will check your name against that list and if you're not on it then your credit score is the best possible. If you are on the list then you are 100% poo poo out of luck.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 11:54

Boris Galerkin: Dec 17, 2011; I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

gently caress Whitey posted:

Well-being for all is not a dream. It is possible, realizable, owing to all that our ancestors have done to increase our powers of production.

We know, indeed, that the producers, although they constitute hardly one-third of the inhabitants of civilized countries, even now produce such quantities of goods that a certain degree of comfort could be brought to every hearth. We know further that if all those who squander to-day the fruits of others� toil were forced to employ their leisure in useful work, our wealth would increase in proportion to the number of producers, and more. Finally, we know that contrary to the theory enunciated by Malthus � that Oracle of middle-class Economics � the productive powers of the human race increase at a much more rapid ratio than its powers of reproduction. The more thickly men are crowded on the soil, the more rapid is the growth of their wealth-creating power.

Thus, although the population of England has only increased from 1844 to 1890 by 62 per cent, its production has grown, to say the least, at double that rate � to wit, by 130 per cent. In France, where the population has grown more slowly, the increase in production is nevertheless very rapid. Notwithstanding the crises through which agriculture is frequently passing, notwithstanding State interference, the blood-tax (conscription), and speculative commerce and finance, the production of wheat in France has increased fourfold, and industrial production more than tenfold, in the course of the last eighty years. In the United States the progress is still more striking. In spite of immigration, or rather precisely because of the influx of surplus European labour, the United States have multiplied their wealth tenfold.

However, these figures give yet a very faint idea of what our wealth might become under better conditions. For alongside of the rapid development of our wealth-producing powers we have an overwhelming increase in the ranks of the idlers and middlemen. Instead of capital gradually concentrating itself in a few hands, so that it would only be necessary for the community to dispossess a few millionaires and enter upon its lawful heritage � instead of this Socialist forecast proving true, the exact reverse is coming to pass: the swarm of parasites is ever increasing.

In France there are not ten actual producers to every thirty inhabitants. The whole agricultural wealth of the country is the work of less than seven millions of men, and in the two great industries, mining and the textile trade, you will find that the workers number less than two and one-half millions. But the exploiters of labour, how many are they? � In England (exclusive of Scotland and Ireland), only one million workers � men, women, and children � are employed in all the textile trades, rather more than half a million work the mines, rather less than half a million till the ground, and the statisticians have to exaggerate all the figures in order to establish a maximum of eight million producers to twenty-six million inhabitants. Strictly speaking the creators of the goods exported from Britain to all the ends of the earth comprise only from six to seven million workers. And what is the sum of the shareholders and middlemen who levy the first fruits of labour from far and near, and heap up unearned gains by thrusting themselves between the producer and the consumer, paying the former not a fifth, nay, not a twentieth, of the price they exact from the latter?

Nor is this all. Those who withhold capital constantly reduce the output by restraining production. We need not speak of the cartloads of oysters thrown into the sea to prevent a dainty, hitherto reserved for the rich, from becoming a food for the people. We need not speak of the thousand and one luxuries � stuffs, foods, etc. etc. � treated after the same fashion as the oysters. It is enough to remember the way in which the production of the most necessary things is limited. Legions of miners are ready and willing to dig out coal every day, and send it to those who are shivering with cold; but too often a third, or even two-thirds, of their number are forbidden to work more than three days a week, because, forsooth, the price of coal must be kept up? Thousands of weavers are forbidden to work the looms, though their wives and children go in rags, and though three-quarters of the population of Europe have no clothing worthy the name.

Hundreds of blast-furnaces, thousands of factories periodically stand idle, others only work half-time � and in every civilized nation there is a permanent population of about two million individuals who ask only for work, but to whom work is denied.

How gladly would these millions of men set to work to reclaim waste lands, or to transform illcultivated land into fertile fields, rich in harvests! A year of well-directed toil would suffice to multiply fivefold the produce of dry lands in the south of France which now yield only about eight bushels of wheat per acre. But these men, who would be happy to become hardy pioneers in so many branches of wealth-producing activity, must stay their hands because the owners of the soil, the mines, and the factories prefer to invest their capital � stolen in the first place from the community � in Turkish or Egyptian bonds, or in Patagonian gold mines, and so make Egyptian fellahs, Italian exiles, and Chinese coolies their wage-slaves.

So much for the direct and deliberate limitation of production; but there is also a limitation indirect and not of set purpose, which consists in spending human toil on objects absolutely useless, or destined only to satisfy the dull vanity of the rich.

It is impossible to reckon in figures the extent to which wealth is restricted indirectly, the extent to which energy is squandered, that might have served to produce, and above all to prepare the machinery necessary to production. It is enough to cite the immense sums spent by Europe in armaments for the sole purpose of acquiring control of the markets, and so forcing her own commercial standards on neighbouring territories and making exploitation easier at home; the millions paid every year to officials of all sorts, whose function it is to maintain the rights of minorities � the right, that is, of a few rich men � to manipulate the economic activities of the nation; the millions spent on judges, prisons, policemen, and all the paraphernalia of so-called justice � spent to no purpose, because we know that every alleviation, however slight, of the wretchedness of our great cities is followed by a very considerable diminution of crime; lastly, the millions spent on propagating pernicious doctrines by means of the press, and news �cooked� in the interest of this or that party, of this politician or of that company of exploiters.

But over and above this we must take into account all the labour that goes to sheer waste, in keeping up the stables, the kennels, and the retinue of the rich, for instance; in pandering to the caprices of society and to the depraved tastes of the fashionable mob; in forcing the consumer on the one hand to buy what he does not need, or foisting an inferior article upon him by means of puffery, and in producing on the other hand wares which are absolutely injurious, but profitable to the manufacturer. What is squandered in this manner would be enough to double our real wealth, or so to plenish our mills and factories with machinery that they would soon flood the shops with all that is now lacking to two-thirds of the nation. Under our present system a full quarter of the producers in every nation are forced to be idle for three or four months in the year, and the labour of another quarter, if not of the half, has no better results than the amusement of the rich or the exploitation of the public.

Thus, if we consider on the one hand the rapidity with which civilized nations augment their powers of production, and on the other hand the limits set to that production, be it directly or indirectly, by existing conditions, one cannot but conclude that an economic system a trifle more enlightened would permit them to heap up in a few years so many useful products that they would be constrained to cry � �Enough! We have enough coal and bread and raiment ! Let us rest and consider how best to use our powers, how best to employ our leisure.�

No, plenty for all is not a dream � though it was a dream indeed in those old days when man, for all his pains, could hardly win a bushel of wheat from an acre of land, and had to fashion by hand all the implements he used in agriculture and industry. Now it is no longer a dream, because man has invented a motor which, with a little iron and a few pounds of coal, gives him the mastery of a creature strong and docile as a horse, and capable of setting the most complicated machinery in motion.

But, if plenty for all is to become a reality, this immense capital � cities, houses, pastures, arable lands, factories, highways, education � must cease to be regarded as private property, for the monopolist to dispose of at his pleasure.

This rich endowment, painfully won, builded, fashioned, or invented by our ancestors, must become common property, so that the collective interests of men may gain from it the greatest good for all.

There must be EXPROPRIATION. The well-being of all � the end; expropriation � the means.

Same

# ? Sep 8, 2017 11:55

dhn: May 28, 2004; Dog dick of anubis

botany posted:

are you talking about credit cards or bank debit cards here? because i don't think a lot of supermarkets in germany accept credit cards.

You are right, that is what I get for only skimming this discussion.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 11:57

Chilichimp: Oct 24, 2006; TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp; Grimey Drawer

coyo7e posted:

https://twitter.com/nevona/status/905606361647640577

lol, that last one is legit.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:00

Andrigaar: Dec 12, 2003; Saint of Killers

the old ceremony posted:

https://twitter.com/davidcrespo/status/905858942579900417

That sloped roof and round windows make it look like a mansion for a hobbit to me.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:01

hanales: Nov 3, 2013

coyo7e posted:

It's another form of creeping privatization in America. It's actually very cyberpunk when you think about it. People are paying for a service they don't want and which is punitive and which actually makes it more difficult for them to get things done.

Also, fun fact, the nebulous "chexsystems" can prevent you from getting a bank account, forcing you to check cashing places!

It's mostly ways to keep the poor poor, by forcing them into awful fee based systems. (I've been on that train, it's crazy expensive to be poor).

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:02

Tsietisin: Jul 2, 2004; Time passes quickly on the weekend.

I do like that in the UK you are entitled to a basic bank account, whatever your situation.

It's basically fee free, but comes with no bells or whistles. No overdraft, no cheques (not that we use those either), simple cash and debit card.

Very useful if you have gone BK and need to start your life again.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:23

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

coyo7e posted:

7
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/906047925528166400

Congrats, Mexico has higher morals than the US

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:30

hanales: Nov 3, 2013

Tsietisin posted:

I do like that in the UK you are entitled to a basic bank account, whatever your situation.

It's basically fee free, but comes with no bells or whistles. No overdraft, no cheques (not that we use those either), simple cash and debit card.

Very useful if you have gone BK and need to start your life again.

We prefer to punish people for not making enough money.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:33

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

SocketWrench posted:

Congrats, Mexico has higher morals than the US

The US doesn't have a North Korean ambassador to kick out.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:34

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

SocketWrench posted:

Congrats, Mexico has higher morals than the US

There is no North Korean Ambassador in the US

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:35

Kidney Stone: Dec 28, 2008; The worst pain ever!

Furnaceface posted:

At this point Im not even sure I want to tempt fate and ask "What's left that could possibly happen?"

Yellowstone?

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:35

Owlofcreamcheese: May 22, 2005; Can't post for 9 years!; Buglord

SocketWrench posted:

Congrats, Mexico has higher morals than the US

What the heck does this even mean?

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:38

Owlofcreamcheese: May 22, 2005; Can't post for 9 years!; Buglord

Al Borland Corp. posted:

The US doesn't have a North Korean ambassador to kick out.

Also like, what exact virtue is on display by not having diplomats?

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:38

Eox: Jun 20, 2010; by Fluffdaddy

Everyone trips over themselves for a hot take once in a while.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:38

Slow News Day: Jul 4, 2007

SocketWrench posted:

Congrats, Mexico has higher morals than the US

Not sure why Mexico would host a NK embassy in the first place...

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:40

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

moostaffa posted:

Outside the US, cards with chips always require PIN when used. It is more inconvenient than just swiping the card, but greatly decreases fraud and credit card theft rates. US credit cards are worth more on the black market for this exact reason; they're so much easier to steal from.

Everyone who visits the US are astonished by the "swipe only" method here. It's incredibly insecure (if you find a card on the floor, you can just pick it up and start using it until it's declined, for instance), but it sure does reinforce the idea that Americans love living on credit.

Source: I'm a European living in the US, and my job is credit card fraud prevention.

Well, that depends. Some places give you options on what to use when you use your chip card. The Speedway here asks US Debit or Visa Credit. Debit requires a pin, Credit just scribble some poo poo on the electronic screen, if it asks. Other places you stick your card in and it doesn't ask anything.
The best anti theft device for them must be out vending machine at work where you have to scan the card half a dozen times because the reader's all screwed up. You gotta really really want that bottle of Coke

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:41

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

What the heck does this even mean?

Mexico's willing to kick people for shady and unlawful poo poo while in the US we elect them president

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:43

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

enraged_camel posted:

Not sure why Mexico would host a NK embassy in the first place...

They're trying to collect one of every Embassy so they can summon Exodia the forbidden

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:43

Owlofcreamcheese: May 22, 2005; Can't post for 9 years!; Buglord

SocketWrench posted:

Mexico's willing to kick people for shady and unlawful poo poo while in the US we elect them president

The ambassador did shadey and unlawful stuff? What specifically?

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:44

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Al Borland Corp. posted:

The US doesn't have a North Korean ambassador to kick out.

Quorum posted:

There is no North Korean Ambassador in the US

Naw, yer shittin' me

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

The ambassador did shadey and unlawful stuff? What specifically?

North Korea did bad thing, Mexico kicks ambassador.

Person does bad things here, enjoy the oval office

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:48

The Lone Badger: Sep 24, 2007

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Hell, for the life of me, I can't see the logic behind the chips in new credit cards other than it takes longer than a swipe, so there's a better chance of the person using a stolen card getting caught on a store's CCTV network.

A magstripe can be trivially cloned. Swiping it gives all the information you need to make a duplicate of the card, with the owner none the wiser. Chips are highly resistant to being copied.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:54

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

SocketWrench posted:

Naw, yer shittin' me

North Korea did bad thing, Mexico kicks ambassador.

Person does bad things here, enjoy the oval office

My dude, this is a pretty god-awful take, I have to tell you.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 12:54

Raised By Birds: May 5, 2013

Equifax's "please steal everyone's identity" leak reminded me of this video about Social Security Numbers, you may find it interesting or maybe even relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erp8IAUouus

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:04

ZenVulgarity: Oct 9, 2012; I made the hat by transforming my zen

https://mobile.twitter.com/TeeENOh/status/905993396623261696

https://mobile.twitter.com/Daniel15/status/905953979934187520

Fire them all into the sun

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:06

Mr Ice Cream Glove: Apr 22, 2007

Breitbart is feeling major buyer remorse

This is a stab in the back. I don't care about Trump's wall anymore.
It's a scam, a bright shiny object for morons to look at while the
invaders never leave and never stop finding new ways into this country.

D E P O R T A T I O N S

Trump promised repeatedly to deport ___all___ of the illegals in
this country. I will not accept any outcome that does not deport
all the invaders that have come in and bred since 1965.

Every year there are less jobs as automation progresses ever more
rapidly. The third world invaders embrace an ideology that this
country was stolen by the white man from people of color. They
will be deported or they will kill us and kill our children.

No deportations = Genocide of white Americans
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Just think. If we had the steady hand of Cruz or a Fiorina we would probably have Obama care overturned, the immigration issue well in hand and well on the way to check mating the soulless democrats on a number of issues. But no..........we went Trump. Wait for the next.............tweet/tweet
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Thanks Trump. We will now have 10's of thousands of new democrat voters grazing off our entitlement programs, attending college for free, making new bambinos that live off the system and fomenting hatred against this country. You are genius, now give me a new tweet. Hope dinner with Pelosi went well....you are a smooth negotiator.
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The bottom line is NONE of them belong here... and NO we do NOT bear any responsibility.....as many of us have been fighting this for Decades !!! It was FORCED on us.....and we were FORCED to pay for these Kids and all the Freebies including health care and Schools.

What about their G d damned Parents ??? THEY should be the first ones deported !!

And sorry Rich but they are simply NOT entitled to any individual consideration available to legal immigrants !! They broke the law for G-ds sake. Saying any different diminishes the effort LEGAL immigrants who HAVE demonstrated that they respect and know our laws.

Nothing to worry about DURING the 6 months. They can "trust" congress will act in their favor even if it means immediately being voted out of office.

Time for those Spanish as a second language courses.
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Where can I get a list of every Dreamer in the U.S.? This is going to be fun and more fun!
Jail pictures can be copied and POSTED !!
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F K Mexicans. We Hate you.
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70% of Dreamers SELL DRUGS, LEECH OFF OF WELFARE, HAVE MULTIPLE KIDS BY MULITIPLE WOMEN, ROB, DRUNK DRIVE, MOLEST CHILDREN, which is COMMON in their culture, BEAT WOMEN, also common in their culture, RAPE, also common in their culture & MURDER INNOCENT AMERICAN CITIZENS. 7.5% of "dreamers" are in college, the rest are busy doing the aforementioned.

Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Sep 8, 2017

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:09

Krispy Wafer: Jul 26, 2002; I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat; Grimey Drawer

Al Borland Corp. posted:

The US doesn't have a North Korean ambassador to kick out.

Forget it. He's rolling.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:11

GOOCHY: Sep 17, 2003; In an interstellar burst I'm back to save the universe!

Quorum posted:

My dude, this is a pretty god-awful take, I have to tell you.

To be fair, his take, while bad, is at least on topic. We could be talking about whether pulp, no pulp, or some pulp is the best orange juice.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:11

Owlofcreamcheese: May 22, 2005; Can't post for 9 years!; Buglord

SocketWrench posted:

North Korea did bad thing, Mexico kicks ambassador.

Why is not having an ambassador a good thing or a good punishment or any sort of punishment or helpful at all?

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:12

Data Graham: Dec 28, 2009; 📈📊🍪😋

coyo7e posted:

Follow-up to that bit about Ivanka wandering in and annoying everybody in the room
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-doesn-apos-t-153800385.html

Is he really doing what it sounds like he's doing here? Jesus loving christ that is some of the grossest poo poo I've heard in a long time.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:14

Dejawesp: Jan 8, 2017; You have to follow the beat!

Are North Korean ambassadors/staff part of the inner party or what? How do they just not jump ship the moment the are out of the country?

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:16

Quorum: Sep 24, 2014; REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Dejawesp posted:

Are North Korean ambassadors/staff part of the inner party or what? How do they just not jump ship the moment the are out of the country?

Because their families are still in North Korea, as, incidentally, are crocodiles.

Also yes, they're very high up, quite well treated, and on board with the goals of the regime.

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:17

Tarantula: Nov 4, 2009; No go ahead stand in the fire, the healer will love the shit out of you.

the old ceremony posted:

LOOK AT THAT FACE

If you think that's cute, listen to them squeak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVz8rvIl_vY

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:29

Kekekela: Oct 28, 2004

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/906133573400481792

Thanks D, as a Florida resident this is especially helpful and will be on lookout for Feddy G

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:39

Pollyanna: Mar 5, 2005; Milk's on them.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Breitbart is feeling major buyer remorse

This is a stab in the back. I don't care about Trump's wall anymore.
It's a scam, a bright shiny object for morons to look at while the
invaders never leave and never stop finding new ways into this country.

D E P O R T A T I O N S

Trump promised repeatedly to deport ___all___ of the illegals in
this country. I will not accept any outcome that does not deport
all the invaders that have come in and bred since 1965.

Every year there are less jobs as automation progresses ever more
rapidly. The third world invaders embrace an ideology that this
country was stolen by the white man from people of color. They
will be deported or they will kill us and kill our children.

No deportations = Genocide of white Americans
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Just think. If we had the steady hand of Cruz or a Fiorina we would probably have Obama care overturned, the immigration issue well in hand and well on the way to check mating the soulless democrats on a number of issues. But no..........we went Trump. Wait for the next.............tweet/tweet
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Thanks Trump. We will now have 10's of thousands of new democrat voters grazing off our entitlement programs, attending college for free, making new bambinos that live off the system and fomenting hatred against this country. You are genius, now give me a new tweet. Hope dinner with Pelosi went well....you are a smooth negotiator.
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The bottom line is NONE of them belong here... and NO we do NOT bear any responsibility.....as many of us have been fighting this for Decades !!! It was FORCED on us.....and we were FORCED to pay for these Kids and all the Freebies including health care and Schools.

What about their G d damned Parents ??? THEY should be the first ones deported !!

And sorry Rich but they are simply NOT entitled to any individual consideration available to legal immigrants !! They broke the law for G-ds sake. Saying any different diminishes the effort LEGAL immigrants who HAVE demonstrated that they respect and know our laws.

Nothing to worry about DURING the 6 months. They can "trust" congress will act in their favor even if it means immediately being voted out of office.

Time for those Spanish as a second language courses.
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Where can I get a list of every Dreamer in the U.S.? This is going to be fun and more fun!
Jail pictures can be copied and POSTED !!
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F K Mexicans. We Hate you.
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70% of Dreamers SELL DRUGS, LEECH OFF OF WELFARE, HAVE MULTIPLE KIDS BY MULITIPLE WOMEN, ROB, DRUNK DRIVE, MOLEST CHILDREN, which is COMMON in their culture, BEAT WOMEN, also common in their culture, RAPE, also common in their culture & MURDER INNOCENT AMERICAN CITIZENS. 7.5% of "dreamers" are in college, the rest are busy doing the aforementioned.

Yesss YESSSS eat yourselves alive :unsmigghh:

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:43

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 11:45

Dapper_Swindler: Feb 14, 2012; Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/906135414498631680

# ? Sep 8, 2017 13:44

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