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Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
A friend of mine gave me a copy of Destiny for the PS4 because I bought a car from him and he wanted to play with me. I may have installed it but I never tried it, was it any good???

to make this Xbox thread worthy, I also bought the newest version of Hitman on Xbone + the season pass and never turned it on!

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

Zune and ZuneHD were fantastic devices. Shame about like, everything else.

Ryoga
Sep 10, 2003
Eternally Lost
I'm a shameful person who has not listened to any new music for like 10 years and just play my cds I uploaded to one drive through groove.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Ryoga posted:

I'm a shameful person who has not listened to any new music for like 10 years and just play my cds I uploaded to one drive through groove.

I got a streaming service specifically so I wouldn't become that shameful person.

a messed up horse
Mar 11, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ether Frenzy posted:

A friend of mine gave me a copy of Destiny for the PS4 because I bought a car from him and he wanted to play with me. I may have installed it but I never tried it, was it any good???

to make this Xbox thread worthy, I also bought the newest version of Hitman on Xbone + the season pass and never turned it on!

destiny is a fun game to play with your friend

TacticalHoodie
May 7, 2007

Played the CoD WW2 beta on my Xbox. I don't have friends to play with so it was painful to experience.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


Ether Frenzy posted:

A friend of mine gave me a copy of Destiny for the PS4 because I bought a car from him and he wanted to play with me. I may have installed it but I never tried it, was it any good???
its only worth playing if you have people to play with

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Ether Frenzy posted:

A friend of mine gave me a copy of Destiny for the PS4 because I bought a car from him and he wanted to play with me. I may have installed it but I never tried it, was it any good???

to make this Xbox thread worthy, I also bought the newest version of Hitman on Xbone + the season pass and never turned it on!

Play that loving Hitman game. It is so drat good.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Beastie posted:

Play that loving Hitman game. It is so drat good.

It seriously is. It's up there with Doom on my list of best current gen games. I wish they'd make an AssCreed in Hitman's mold.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


TheScott2K posted:

It seriously is. It's up there with Doom on my list of best current gen games. I wish they'd make an AssCreed in Hitman's mold.

I went all in last fall and bought the season. I think I played the first two levels (not including training) before the holidays got busy and I forgot about. That and I was knee deep in dope games last winter.

I booted it up last month and finished it off. My girlfriend ended up liking the game a ton. She'd sit there and play backseat hitman and we'd figure out the "puzzles" together.

Really love the tone of those games. I've heard the mobile game is good, it's the only one I have not played.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
IO needs to strike while the iron is hot and make the Helmut Kruger game the world demands.

GopherFlats
Mar 16, 2011
Ok so I have a stupid question. Does anyone know if you can use an external hard drive to do game updates?

Where I'm at I have to use a Verizon hotspot for internet and updating games eats up all my data. So I wasn't sure if you could just take the ext hdd and plug it into someone's console and do updates that way. Is this a thing or do I need to physically take my printer Xbox to my buddys place?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

GopherFlats posted:

Ok so I have a stupid question. Does anyone know if you can use an external hard drive to do game updates?

Where I'm at I have to use a Verizon hotspot for internet and updating games eats up all my data. So I wasn't sure if you could just take the ext hdd and plug it into someone's console and do updates that way. Is this a thing or do I need to physically take my printer Xbox to my buddys place?

You can do this, sure.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




GopherFlats posted:

Ok so I have a stupid question. Does anyone know if you can use an external hard drive to do game updates?

Where I'm at I have to use a Verizon hotspot for internet and updating games eats up all my data. So I wasn't sure if you could just take the ext hdd and plug it into someone's console and do updates that way. Is this a thing or do I need to physically take my printer Xbox to my buddys place?

Nope, that'll work, although you may have to gently caress with things manually a bit to ensure it works, can definitely get weird if your friend has the same game installed on their HD.

You install the game to your external HD with all content (DLC, etc), basically set it up so the game is played from there. Now if you unplug this drive and plug it into another Xbox it'll populate its content on the list of games the other person has installed, and launching the game should trigger updates. Once it's updated you bring the drive back, and you're good to go. If they already have the game installed things might get weird, although you can copy their install to your HD, overwriting your existing install, and that should work.

I'm not sure if you put your Xbox One online using your hotspot ever, but bear in mind updates are forced if it's made aware that they exist; at least in the past if a game ever became aware an update existed I think you were more or less screwed and unable to play it without installing the update, even if you went offline, not sure if that's still the case or not.

Asteroid Alert
Oct 24, 2012

BINGO!
I preordered Xbone X, but also bought an used S (2tb model). What do I do with the S in november?

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Adaptabullshit posted:

I preordered Xbone X, but also bought an used S (2tb model). What do I do with the S in november?

Keep it after cancelling the preorder for the X

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

TheScott2K posted:

Keep it after cancelling the preorder for the X

This

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Your Xbox One S: 2tb
The Xbox One X: 1tb

Ergo your S is twice as good as the X and you should cancel your X pre-order.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Adaptabullshit posted:

I preordered Xbone X, but also bought an used S (2tb model). What do I do with the S in november?

Use your S as your gamer throne.

Asteroid Alert
Oct 24, 2012

BINGO!
I guess I can live with two Xboxes, maybe leave the S in my second home

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

The S plays 4k Blu rays too I'm sure someone will buy it

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

RBX posted:

The S plays 4k Blu rays too I'm sure someone will buy it

People love physical media these days

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




TheScott2K posted:

People love physical media these days

Constantly rebuying movies and TV shows in increasingly higher definition until you die is the Xbox way.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

TheScott2K posted:

People love physical media these days

Well they sure got pissed about not having it before the Xbox One launched

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013

fishmech posted:

Well they sure got pissed about not having it before the Xbox One launched

I'm curious about what the disk/digital split is and what the used games market is like these days.

Because it remains eternally darkly funny to me that the Xbox launch got torpedoed because Microsoft correctly predicted how people like me would want to use a console (wired into the Internet, pretty much only buying digital games and not worried about resale) and I wonder how much of an exception I am.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




People still buy games but the same is no longer true of movies and TV Shows. Streaming absolutely wrecked home media sales, especially until recently when Netflix was largely the only game in town (I think the fragmentation of content that's hodgepodge scattered across different streaming services may have an impact eventually). It also doesn't help that getting actual benefits from UHD Blu-ray has a pretty high cost of entry; it is almost 100% pointless unless you have a 4K TV. DVD benefitted everybody even if they were still rockin' 80's coax-only Trinitrons, and Blu-ray was still an upgrade even if you just had a Dolby Digital/DTS sound system, or a decent enough TV that the macroblocking on DVD's was an issue (or had >480p, even if it was just 720p).

doingitwrong posted:

I'm curious about what the disk/digital split is and what the used games market is like these days.

Because it remains eternally darkly funny to me that the Xbox launch got torpedoed because Microsoft correctly predicted how people like me would want to use a console (wired into the Internet, pretty much only buying digital games and not worried about resale) and I wonder how much of an exception I am.

There are a shitload of people who go through games by buying them, finishing them and trading them in for credit for the next one. They aren't buying games digitally whenever possible.

There are also a substantial number of people (including a recent poster in this very thread) who don't have enough internet allowance for downloading even 10 gigs in a month, let alone the >80 gigs a lot of games are starting to need now.

Digital's making in-roads but it's never going to reach a point where the above two groups become insignificant enough to not matter, not with console games anyway.

univbee fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Sep 8, 2017

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

univbee posted:

People still buy games but the same is no longer true of movies and TV Shows. Streaming absolutely wrecked home media sales, especially until recently when Netflix was largely the only game in town (I think the fragmentation of content that's hodgepodge scattered across different streaming services may have an impact eventually). It also doesn't help that getting actual benefits from UHD Blu-ray has a pretty high cost of entry; it is almost 100% pointless unless you have a 4K TV. DVD benefitted everybody even if they were still rockin' 80's coax-only Trinitrons, and Blu-ray was still an upgrade even if you just had a Dolby Digital/DTS sound system, or a decent enough TV that the macroblocking on DVD's was an issue (or had >480p, even if it was just 720p).


There are a shitload of people who go through games by buying them, finishing them and trading them in for credit for the next one. They aren't buying games digitally whenever possible.

There are also a substantial number of people (including a recent poster in this very thread) who don't have enough internet allowance for downloading even 10 gigs in a month, let alone the >80 gigs a lot of games are starting to need now.

Digital's making in-roads but it's never going to reach a point where the above two groups become insignificant enough to not matter, not with console games anyway.

"People can't afford to install 80 GB of games a month but they can afford to stream 80 GB of movies and TV and YouTube a month" is basically the argument you're making here. Since you're saying video on disc is dead but games on disc aren't (let alone the fact that the drat disc is going to make you download 40 GB of patches just to play it)

Modern video streaming services add up a lot quicker than you'd thin, and most people aren't likely to buy multiple full on games a month on their console.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



No, people buy retail games on consoles because they can just trade it and get some cash back. As much as I like digital (fully embraced it on PC when Steam started), I like to have certain games retail.

Hell, I have a good bunch of retail games that I ended getting digital and kept the boxed copy because they look nice on my shelf (bloodborne, Doom 2016, Gears of War... etc).

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


They don't look nice on your shelf.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

doingitwrong posted:

Because it remains eternally darkly funny to me that the Xbox launch got torpedoed because Microsoft correctly predicted how people like me would want to use a console (wired into the Internet, pretty much only buying digital games and not worried about resale) and I wonder how much of an exception I am.

But their system didn't improve anything for "people like you", except for adding new restrictions?

They were simply trying to kill the used game market.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013

Fame Douglas posted:

But their system didn't improve anything for "people like you", except for adding new restrictions?

They were simply trying to kill the used game market.

The ability to share my library with 10 friends and play the games they weren't playing was pretty exciting.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Fame Douglas posted:

But their system didn't improve anything for "people like you", except for adding new restrictions?

They were simply trying to kill the used game market.

Being able to take advantage of a good deal on a retail copy of a game without having to open up my home theater cabinet and swap discs around is an improvement for people like me. Digital only pricing loving sucks.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

doingitwrong posted:

The ability to share my library with 10 friends and play the games they weren't playing was pretty exciting.


lol yeah that's how it was going to work

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




fishmech posted:

"People can't afford to install 80 GB of games a month but they can afford to stream 80 GB of movies and TV and YouTube a month" is basically the argument you're making here. Since you're saying video on disc is dead but games on disc aren't (let alone the fact that the drat disc is going to make you download 40 GB of patches just to play it)

Modern video streaming services add up a lot quicker than you'd thin, and most people aren't likely to buy multiple full on games a month on their console.

Hes saying they cant afford to do both. A family watching netflix all month doesnt have the cap space left for master chief collection.

Univbee is not owned.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Real hurthling! posted:

Hes saying they cant afford to do both. A family watching netflix all month doesnt have the cap space left for master chief collection.

Univbee is not owned.

Netflix does have pretty good quality-lowering options if you're OK with VCD-tier picture quality, too.

Also the people in areas with poor internet weren't exactly buying multiple DVD's a week anyway, more often than not they'll have alternate solutions like "satellite TV" and "playing outside". Hell, the satellite/fibre TV provider here has its own digital service you can buy movies on to own as well as its own streaming service if you want digital without the data usage (they give it to you free).

The thing with Movies and TV is there are a multitude of ways of getting them so there are different solutions for different people. You can buy digital from a half-dozen different services. You can buy DVD, Blu-ray, and in some cases Blu-ray 3D and UHD Blu-ray. You can wait for it to show up on Netflix or other streaming provider. You can wait still longer for it to air on cable TV. You can pirate it.

If you want a console game your options are quite a bit more limited and Microsoft's original plan intended to narrow that further.

TheScott2K posted:

Being able to take advantage of a good deal on a retail copy of a game without having to open up my home theater cabinet and swap discs around is an improvement for people like me. Digital only pricing loving sucks.

There is nothing preventing Microsoft from doing this very thing right now, they're just refusing to sell digital codes separately for the most part, but it's definitely a thing with most other platforms at least to a certain extent. Hell, I bought NBA 2K14 discounted in a special PS3/PS4 bundle which had no disc but had a digital code for both versions.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Digital games tend to be 40% off around two months after release. Hell, I got Titanfall 2 for $30 two weeks after release. I want less stuff in my apartment.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
How bad is internet data capping in the states that you have to worry about downloads? I mean the best I can get in my small Canadian town is 50/5, but I've never gotten a call about downloading 1 too many video games.

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

Physical game
$48 after GCU discount
-25 tradein
--------
$23 total

Digital game
$60
---------
$60 total


Hmmmmmm wonder why people don't like digital

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Because I buy it on sale and don't have a hideous green piece of plastic gathering dust?

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TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Beastie posted:

Digital games tend to be 40% off around two months after release. Hell, I got Titanfall 2 for $30 two weeks after release. I want less stuff in my apartment.

Titanfall 2 is definitely an outlier there. Decent deals on digital games pretty much entirely depend on sales, and a lot of times those sale prices are still higher than retail.

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