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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Can we just nuke china? they dont seem to give a gently caress about anything besides making money, at the cost of human life and the environment.

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WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
They'll probably nuke back.

Also, everyone else will start nuking if an entire arsenal starts flying.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

WarpedNaba posted:

They'll probably nuke back.

Also, everyone else will start nuking if an entire arsenal starts flying.

I liked the theory that China's nuclear arsenal has been under the careful watch of 差不多 for so long that they might not even work at this point.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
I often hear some people say that they like China because there's "no PC culture." But there are all sorts of silly things you can't say without suffering butthurt criticism thrown your way. It's almost as if "no PC culture" is code for "I can say lovely things about minorities and women and I won't be criticized because no one here has a frame of reference for what I'm saying."

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

It's hardly code, it's exceedingly obvious :)

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
yeesh:

quote:

...

According to China Business News, doctors who examined Ma told her that her unborn child had an unusually large head.

Since this can make vaginal delivery riskier than normal, her physicians recommended she have a C-section birth instead.

However, the young woman's family insisted she give birth naturally -- and because in China a patient's family members must give consent before they undergo surgery, she was not allowed by the hospital to have the procedure.

Ma continued to beg her family members to let her have a C-section, saying that the pain was becoming too much for her to bear, but they would not listen to her.

On 8 p.m. Thursday night, Ma fell from a fifth-floor window at the hospital, killing herself and her fetus in what police are calling a suicide.
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/09/06/pregnant-woman-commits-suicide-after-being-denied-a-cesarean-section/23199445/

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Atlas Hugged posted:

I liked the theory that China's nuclear arsenal has been under the careful watch of 差不多 for so long that they might not even work at this point.

The people in charge of China's nuclear arsenal are probably the only ones in the country who haven't gone chabuduo on their work.

Amergin
Jan 29, 2013

THE SOUND A WET FART MAKES
With regards to farming practices, if anyone wants to seriously goon out over problems facing farmers out in the area, this report on rice farming in Myanmar is pretty good, thorough and also much of it is applicable to many Chinese farmers.

One thing to keep in mind is that the difference in "Chinese culture" of farmers in China is far away from the "Chinese culture" of nerds watching dancing cosplaying girls on Bilibili in Beijing or Chinese financiers in Shanghai or even electronics factory workers in Shenzhen. To ask "why haven't they learned better practices yet?" is silly because these people have been almost completely left behind by China's supposed ascendance over the past few decades. You have to keep in mind that when we talk about the current "largest human migration" of Chinese from the countryside to the city, that is almost purely in one direction and that's with regards to people as well as development and information.

So when you have a bunch of farmers who don't get people going out to educate them on farming practices, their information and learning process becomes, "Well Li Wei's crop last year did well and he used 3x as much of this particular brand of fertilizer, so if I do the same thing I should get the same result!" To expect scientific analysis of soil in most of these areas is just laughable.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

http://supchina.com/podcasts/chinas-environmental-challenges-overfishing-toxic-soil-unbreathable-air/

Sinica's podcast just happened to be on environment issues, for those who're interested.

Double Monocle
Sep 4, 2008

Smug as fuck.

Jeoh posted:

The people in charge of China's nuclear arsenal are probably the only ones in the country who haven't gone chabuduo on their work.

Oh you sweet summer child.




Also sorry guys gonna write up some sexpat stuff when I get some free time, I only have internet maybe 30 min a day, and im military on a weird schedule so I don't get much computer time. Im also not a very good writer so framing it in the funniest way possible is hard.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Accretionist posted:

Or panning the sewers for gold

I saw some crazy science guy thing on youtube where he extracted platinum from highway shoulder dirt. I think it was more of a possible-but-impractical deal though.

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:




Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Whats the over/under the parents/brother/husband realized the baby wasn't normal and tossed them both out the window?

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Outrail posted:

Whats the over/under the parents/brother/husband realized the baby wasn't normal and tossed them both out the window?

It could have been the next Jack Ma with that giant noggin.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Coolguye posted:

fertilizer is not pH neutral. nitrogen is delivered to the soil in the form of ammonium, this is true of both synthetic fertilizer and organic ones made from manure. the ammonium seeps into the soil, breaks down, and releases both digestible nitrogen and......H+ ions.

exactly what balance is appropriate varies from place to place. rainfall, soil drainage, and the plant involved (soybeans like a different fertilizer mix than wheat, for example) all affect how much fertilizer you should use to both maximize yields and not cause massive soil acidification. it's a delicate dance and it needs to be recalculated often. but the calculation is not mystical nor confusing. you take some samples, you plug the variables in to a known equation, you get it back out. it's simple. of course, this being china, the farmers don't actually understand what they are doing and don't think about next year. so they figure if one heap of fertilizer must be good, two heaps must be better, and start the process of salting the earth in the biblical sense so loving nothing will grow in their fields in a couple years.

Also doesn't nitrogen just positively effect green growth and too much is detrimental to flowering/fruiting/seeding (which needs potassium, magnesium and other trace elements instead). I've seen people use high nitrogen fertilizers and get a good size plant but nothing growing on it, flowers just drop off.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Sep 8, 2017

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost

Coolguye posted:

Desertification data in the UN reports presumes that people will eventually use almost double the amount of water per-capita that they currently use and does not attempt to explain what will cause this rise

Increases in eating meat can have huge effects on water use. That's kinda driven a lot of the water use growth in the past decades and there's still billions of people that could start really eating meat - and likely would want to as a status symbol.

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party
http://i.imgur.com/tD5z7qV.mp4

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

McGavin posted:

It could have been the next Jack Ma with that giant noggin.

Until the last line I assumed it was actually about him

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

bongwizzard posted:

I saw some crazy science guy thing on youtube where he extracted platinum from highway shoulder dirt. I think it was more of a possible-but-impractical deal though.

Cody :allears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5GPWJPLcHg

Vernii
Dec 7, 2006


Context? That last room is pretty neat.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Fake flower factory I assume.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=CNY&view=1Y

hmmm

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Apparently china came out and either banned bitcoin exchanges or ICOs as well. Chinese money crashing every which way.

whip
Apr 9, 2007

by Lowtax
That's why we sell gold and with North Korea talking hella poo poo it's doing goooooood

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Mr. Nice! posted:

Apparently china came out and either banned bitcoin exchanges or ICOs as well. Chinese money crashing every which way.

Well this is the Yuan strengthening very rapidly over the course of like 2 weeks and nobody seems to be raising eyebrows over it

like the weak dollar is definitely a part of it but uhhhh, that sort of change in that short a period of time is usually not so good

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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it means chinas gdp is gonna be bigger though so maybe the ccp is engineering it so that they get yooge gdp growth after the party congress

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

omg. omg. Yes. Go go go go go go go go

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xis-One-Sandra-Coupland-ebook/dp/B01N1XZ33L/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1504902920&sr=1-1

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
I liked the one with Jet Li better. Speaking of which, I think his English got worse after his American movie stint back in the early 2000's.

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:

Vernii posted:

Context? That last room is pretty neat.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/proof/2017/09/yiwu-china-commodities-market/

quote:

Yiwu is a small town by Chinese standards (pop. 1.2 million). But it’s globally significant to anyone who has ever bought socks, zippers, or a cheap last-minute Halloween costume.

The city attracts business visitors from all over the world. Buyers come year-round to survey goods and make bulk orders that end up in hardware stores, souvenir shops, and big-box retailers on every continent. According to one estimate by a local trade group, more than 60 percent of all Christmas decorations, especially lights, originate in Yiwu.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
single item factory cities are the most fascinating thing to read about

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
And I thought the city that only makes Denim was weird.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Beijing has had enough, they too have banned more new shared bikes.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41197341

quote:

Beijing has become the latest city in China to ban new shared bikes as the country battles against two-wheel traffic chaos and safety concerns in urban areas.

New deliveries of bikes to the city's 15 sharing schemes will be suspended, a government statement on Thursday said.

Riders can already access nearly 2.4 million shared cycles in Beijing.

It joins other Chinese cities in trying to curb public hazards by banning new bikes to the popular schemes.

In the statement, the Municipal Transportation Commission also said it would begin efforts to clean up parking.

Bikes in big cities are often abandoned, thrown haphazardly on streets and curbs.

It said the Commission would look at regulating shared bike schemes, including guidelines for parking spaces.

I still don't know how you would make a profit in the long term due to the attrition rate.I assume the companies officers are embezzling faster than African warlords.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

How the hell do you get lost in Sanlitun?

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

oohhboy posted:

Beijing has had enough, they too have banned more new shared bikes.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41197341


Now ban private cars.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
What a nation of babies.


quote:

'You should consider our feelings': for Chinese students the state is an extension of family

Chinese students react with great emotion if they feel China is being criticised. There’s concern that this erodes freedom of speech on Australian campuses

The recently released Chinese student’s recording of the argument he has with his teacher about using the word “Taiwan” illustrates how issues of sovereignty and territoriality can be very emotional for Chinese students.

In the video, the Chinese student says, in a calm voice: “You have to consider all the students … Chinese students are one third of this classroom. You make us feel uncomfortable.” He goes on to argue, “You have to show your respect.” The discussion becomes somewhat unclear, but it sounds like the student then says, “It really makes us feel terrible.” His next comment sounds like he is getting frustrated and upset: “Why do you always keep saying that? ‘Taiwan!’ As if it is a separate country.”

The teacher responds: “From where I am standing, Taiwan is a separate country. If you feel offended, that is your opinion.”

The student replies: “You should consider our feelings. You don’t have to mention it many times, and like hurt us once again.” He finishes with, “It is our bottom line, and you keep touching on it.”

It is not clear from the video exactly what the teacher said that caused the student such offence; however, Newcastle University said in a statement that the lecturer was using material from a Transparency International report “which used the term ‘countries’ to describe both countries and territories”.

What is immediately notable is that while the student is not satisfied with his teacher’s position, he does not even attempt to deploy what he may consider to be relevant facts or rational counter-arguments to support his own case. He is not trying to draw on his understanding of history, or setting out what he might see to be the relevant details of the “one country two systems” arrangement that currently governs the relationship between the mainland and the island.

Rather, the student repeatedly appeals to emotion, in particular, how referring to “Taiwan” as a separate country hurts the feelings of Chinese students.


The mantra of “hurting the feelings of the Chinese people” is not new. This emotionally charged phrase is used regularly in the Chinese press, with varying degrees of vitriol when, for example, a foreign politician meets with the Dalai Lama. In another case, singer Bob Dylan was warned not to “hurt the feelings of the Chinese people” when he toured China before he had even arrived in the country. In a similar vein, my Chinese friends and colleagues would tend to react with great emotion if they felt that China was being criticised by an outsider – even in relation to topics like the weather or the traffic.

Research by Victor Mair in 2011 into this phenomenon found that an internet search on the phrase “hurt the feelings of the Chinese people” resulted in 17,000 hits, as compared with replacing the “Chinese people” with the “Japanese people” (the next many hits, at 178) or 17 other nationalities which came up with zero hits. In an earlier search on google.cn of the terms “humiliation” or “bullying” (qifu: 欺负) and “disrespect” or “looking down” (kanbuqi: 看不起), anthropologist and historian Pal Nyiri found 623,000 entries with the term “qifu Zhongguo” (欺负中国, bullying China) and 521,000 with “kanbuqi Zhongguoren” (看不起中国人, looking down on Chinese people).

This tendency to be easily offended taps into the narrative of “national humiliation” which many Chinese subscribe to – the idea that the outside world deliberately carved China up during the opium wars of the mid-1800s, leaving it weak and vulnerable. President Xi Jinping’s “China Dream” of rejuvenation is a direct response to this view.

Some Chinese people have explained to me that the tendency to take offence when an outsider comments on China in a way they perceive as a criticism stems from the idea the country and the family are conceptually conflated such that they are understood as deserving equal loyalty. In a conversation with one Chinese scholar on the matter, I said that when Australian government policy was criticised internationally, it generally did not make Australians feel “hurt” in the same way Chinese people seemed to react when China was criticised. He said, “Because, you know, so many (western) people don’t understand how the relationship between people and state in China is like a family!” He explained how even the Chinese word for country, guo jia, is made up of the character for country/state, and the character for family (国家).

The Chinese students I taught in Beijing also felt very strongly that the idea of guojia, or “country-family”, expressed the relationship between people and the state in China very well. In their view, the state was an extension of the family, and should therefore be accorded all the obligations and loyalty traditionally due to family. My students felt strongly that while it may be acceptable for them or other Chinese people to comment on shortcomings or mistakes of the Chinese nation-state, it was entirely inappropriate for those outside to do so. Students took external criticism of China very personally, explaining their emotional response in terms of being “offended” or of experiencing hurt feelings.

Officially, the status of Taiwan is a “core interest” for China. That is to say, most Chinese consider the idea that Taiwan is an indisputable part of China is sacrosanct. They learn it at school, and in almost everything they see and hear as they grow up. To them, Taiwan is a family member; that is why discussions about its sovereignty tend to be emotional. Many Chinese students find it difficult to articulate why they feel the way they do about Taiwan – particularly because they have not had much training in debating or critically arguing a point. And they find it impossible to fathom that foreigners cannot understand their position on Taiwan.

There is another fascinating question the release of this video raises: why did the student record and publicise this moment? What was he trying to achieve?

The Chinese student’s lecturer was right to say that his course could not cater to any particular group, and that navigating different views and opinions is an integral part of the learning experience. But it is very difficult for many Chinese students to accept that “the Taiwan issue” is in any way a matter of opinion.

Dr Merriden Varrall is the director of the East Asia Program at the Lowy Institute.



https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ily?CMP=soc_567

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6vcsMm_Al8

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Chinese butthurt is the most idiotic form of butthurt.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

wow, what about my feelings after this pathetic interaction??

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Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
how much of western movies being really popular in china is people laundering money through movie places because the warcraft movie was apparently selling full houses to a province that was dealing with floods

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