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Jenny Angel
Oct 24, 2010

Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!
Lipstick Apathy

Magic Hate Ball posted:

I wish it were longer and more relaxed, rather than being a calvacade of scares.

See I saw people taking issue with how many times the clown goes argleblargle and charges at the screen, which is baffling to me. The clown going argleblargle and charging at the screen was legitimately one of the best parts of the movie whenever it happened, and given the middling scare artistry on display everywhere else, I think it's to the movie's strength to cannonball into wobbly camp

quote:

It's so short and brisk

It's a hundred and thirty five minutes and has an entire fakeout climax before going on for another half hour, man. I get what you're saying about the pacing but it's not exactly a short and brisk end result

Jenny Angel fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Sep 9, 2017

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Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
What were your favorite and least favorite scares? The film worked best for me when it was organic drama with stabbings of grotesque surreality. Georgie weeping was probably the best moment.

Lil Mama Im Sorry
Oct 14, 2012

I'M BACK AND I'M SCARIN' WHITE FOLKS
My fav was Pennywise in the basement, just barely missing Bill and then laying his head on a step with a deranged dissatisfaction.

Also, giant Pennywise, of course

I really liked that they used that old House on Haunted Hill remake/Jacob's Ladder effect.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~

Popelmon posted:

Holy poo poo Ricky Oh is insanely stupid. And awesome. And the terrible English dub just makes it even better.

Now go watch the absolutely batshit crazy kung-fu/horror/action movie by the same director, The Seventh Curse, starring Chow Yun-Fat!

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

Also, giant Pennywise, of course

This was the one that made me wanna stand up and clap. Probably my favorite scare since the very tall man in It Follows.

Lil Mama Im Sorry
Oct 14, 2012

I'M BACK AND I'M SCARIN' WHITE FOLKS

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

This was the one that made me wanna stand up and clap. Probably my favorite scare since the very tall man in It Follows.

I had the same reaction, i elbowed my gf and just grinned like an idiot

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
I also really like whenever King uses the living still image motif in any of his stories so that had me mega pumped.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

I think I said "oh my god" out loud. Not the only time in the movie either.

I had a super rowdy crowd, it was great. Also there was a surprise IT themed burlesque show before the screening and they dumped red balloons on us from the balcony just before the movie started. The movie theater scene here rules.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
Jump scares are bad imo

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
Like many things, if they aren't lazy, they can be very good.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

corn in the bible posted:

Jump scares are bad imo

This discussion is happening in the IT thread too, but: this opinion is bad imo

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
Categorically trashing jump scares is dumb because it's basically saying that provoking surprise and fight-or-flight isn't a valid tool in a filmmaker's toolbox, which obviously isn't true. There are good and bad ways to do almost anything.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
Like yes, many jump scares are lazy and involve a loud musical sting and something jumping out from well within the characters eyeline, but that isn't all of them and they can be very creative and well done like any other genre trope. Hell, they can still be straightforward but as long as they don't cheat it, I don't see anything wrong with it.

Jenny Angel
Oct 24, 2010

Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!
Lipstick Apathy

Magic Hate Ball posted:

What were your favorite and least favorite scares?

The three best were probably the two that Lil Mama singled out plus Pennywise's extremely po-faced dance before he lunges at Bev beneath the well. I think the movie's easily on its best footing when it's depicting Pennywise as a pretty lame and miserable dude

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
And I like their use in IT because the point at which you start getting acclimated to it is the exact same point at which the kids gradually start becoming unafraid themselves and therefore able to defeat Pennywise.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
Best jump scares I've ever seen is still in Enter the Void. There's one that happens in the middle of the movie that's masterfully done and it loving wrecked me when I originally saw the film.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Categorically trashing jump scares is dumb because it's basically saying that provoking surprise and fight-or-flight isn't a valid tool in a filmmaker's toolbox, which obviously isn't true. There are good and bad ways to do almost anything.

Exactly.

I will give leeway on this though: false jump scares are almost always bad. Like, the "a cat jumps out at you" kind. I'd be okay with those being retired. But if it's a jump scare moment that actually follows through by having the thing that jumps out at you actually be something scary - which I think is the case with just about all of the jump scares in IT - then like, yea, that's what horror movies are supposed to do.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

glam rock hamhock posted:

Best jump scares I've ever seen is still in Enter the Void. There's one that happens in the middle of the movie that's masterfully done and it loving wrecked me when I originally saw the film.

I once watched Mulholland Drive with a girl I was dating and when the dumpster lady showed up she had a panic attack. Not cool.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I think I said "oh my god" out loud. Not the only time in the movie either.

I had a super rowdy crowd, it was great. Also there was a surprise IT themed burlesque show before the screening and they dumped red balloons on us from the balcony just before the movie started. The movie theater scene here rules.

My local theater isn't big enough to put on a burlesque show but they had the owner and his assistant dress up as Freddy and Nancy and chase each other through the theater before they showed Nightmare on Elm Street. I just wish they showed horror movies more often, but I suppose it doesn't really fit the neighborhood's demographics that well.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

glam rock hamhock posted:

Best jump scares I've ever seen is still in Enter the Void. There's one that happens in the middle of the movie that's masterfully done and it loving wrecked me when I originally saw the film.

Literally and figuratively.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
Horror movie fans are just like die-hard opera nuts. Both watch the product for the craft and for the tantalizing whiff of what got them into it in the first place, not because of the actual effect.

Jenny Angel posted:

The three best were probably the two that Lil Mama singled out plus Pennywise's extremely po-faced dance before he lunges at Bev beneath the well. I think the movie's easily on its best footing when it's depicting Pennywise as a pretty lame and miserable dude

The dance was easily the most memorable moment in the film.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

If I remember correctly one of the rules Wan had when making Insidious was that every single jump scare had to be an actual scare. No cats or friends just kidding around allowed.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

National Lampoon's European Vacation, Or The 120 Days Of Sodom

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
My favorite jump scare has to be "Where's the goat?" from Jurassic Park... Or, wait, no, it's probably tied with The House on Haunted Hill (you know the part).

Unrelated: God drat does Sadako 3D ever suck.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
Hillary's America, or the 120 Days of Sodom

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
My only problem with jump scares is that I'd rather be disturbed than startled.

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!

MacheteZombie posted:

I agree, but it's so good. I just want Lynch to keep having total control of a show. It's wild.

Maybe Showtime will pick up On the Air.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

What are the essential El Santo film?
I've already seen Santo contra los zombies and the one with the vampire women.

I am working on a thing that apes El Santo but transfers it to Iceland changing the Lucha aspects to be about Icelandic glíma. Basically imagine this stuff except with monsters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1bHSPokDf4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUx2pOqtTiM

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~
El Santo and Blue Demon vs The Monsters is a blast, he fights Dracula Women, Frankensteins, and a Cyclops. At one point, Dracula threatens to unmask him.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

X-Ray Pecs posted:

El Santo and Blue Demon vs The Monsters is a blast, he fights Dracula Women, Frankensteins, and a Cyclops. At one point, Dracula threatens to unmask him.
To unmask a luchador is worse than death so I can understand why Dracula made that threat.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Mechafunkzilla posted:

I once watched Mulholland Drive with a girl I was dating and when the dumpster lady showed up she had a panic attack. Not cool.

That was my experience, only the panic attack haver was me and I was alone. I love that movie.

My shout out for favorite jump scares has to be the Thing, which does it twice that I can think of. Both times do a great job of tension and misdirection beforehand, and use the jump scare as the start of all hell breaking loose.

e: three times, actually

Goon Danton fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Sep 10, 2017

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
https://youtu.be/6622xan963k

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Newest Mike Diva video is an ad for a real ice cream brand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4IFNKYmLa8

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Sir Kodiak posted:

Not at all. And, man, who would have thought, prior to the both of them, that Logan Lucky would be the funnier movie.
Daniel Craig should do more comedic roles was my takeaway from the film, that and the movie has a lot of anticapitalistic/socialist interpretations

Shoombo
Jan 1, 2013
There is a good as hell jump scare in City of the Living Dead based around a sex doll inflating and as you may know that is not actually a scary thing yet perfectly encapsulates what I love about the intersection of perverse sex, violence, and fear in Italian horror.

Good point keep talkin
Sep 14, 2011


achillesforever6 posted:

Daniel Craig should do more comedic roles was my takeaway from the film, that and the movie has a lot of anticapitalistic/socialist interpretations

He's pretty good in Comrade Detective

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

I would say It is a very near perfect film for me. Maybe even perfect. I think it's funny a poster complained that an R Rated Goonies is what goons think is great and yes it is. I love that poo poo.

Although Goonies is boring because they're not fighting anything. Just bullshitting around.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

achillesforever6 posted:

Daniel Craig should do more comedic roles was my takeaway from the film, that and the movie has a lot of anticapitalistic/socialist interpretations

Craig's deadpan delivery is easily the high point of his Bond movies.

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill
Hacksaw Ridge has a good jump scare

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

The first two Screams both have excellent jump scares.

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