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TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lurdiak posted:

Please do not ruin my love of Alpha Flight by comparing them to webcomics.

Order of the Stick is good!

...when you read story arcs all at once, anyway. The author has a habit of doing long derails to the main plot that are pretty good when it's all said and done but is absolutely grueling in the meantime.

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Senior Woodchuck
Aug 29, 2006

When you're lost out there and you're all alone, a light is waiting to carry you home

TenCentFang posted:

According to Wikipedia, he found a random baby in an alley, adopted it, and then it died of AIDs, so he came out to raise awareness. I have no idea why he's jumping, although if dramatic proclamations while leaping through the air was a gay stereotype, I wanna reclaim it.

He's jumping because he's fighting a homophobic supervillain who wants to kill back alley AIDS baby because the gays.

Look, it's Scott Lobdell, if you're expecting something good, you're in the wrong loving place.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
The only stuff I ever remember about Alpha Flight is that Box got weirdly complicated.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
What's complicated? A fat Goon with no legs and bad hair has a mutant help build him a dumb, lovely looking robot suit for him to superhero in, gets jealous when his girlfriend's dead ex comes back in the bod of a hot, dead demigoddess, gets himself a new set of legs made from dead flesh, goes nuts, fuses with a Tetsuo style monstrosity just in time to see his mutant pal turn his dumb, lovely robot suit into a badass 90s mega morphing mechsuit that shits over anything Tony Stark ever made for breakfast before finally dying an ignomious death. Simples!

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
wasn't box part of beast's science club?

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
Alpha Flight may not have been the Avengers, but when they were good, they were very, very good.



Scaramouche posted:

I always thought shaman was a neat character though Lord knows not much was done with him

Same here. I love American Indians (even Canadian ones), and I love magic. It was always frustrating that Shaman kind of sucked. :(

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Senior Woodchuck posted:

He's jumping because he's fighting a homophobic supervillain who wants to kill back alley AIDS baby because the gays.

Look, it's Scott Lobdell, if you're expecting something good, you're in the wrong loving place.

I thought (and granted it's been many years) that it was that he was fighting a Royal Mountie guy who was upset about infant AIDS victims getting all the public sympathy while gay AIDS victims suffered a lot of stigma, because his gay son had died. Northstar comes out to him to start a dialogue, and he's jumping and snarling while doing so because it was still a pretty bad comic.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Kalli posted:

Oh it wasn't anything so dramatic.

Count Nefaria tried to take control of Norad with his ani-pals. The X-men promptly routed them, and while running away, Thunderbird jumped on Nefaria's jet and punched it so hard it exploded, killing him.

The odds John Proudstar was going to have a long career were pretty low.

Well, I get that he'd be mad but uuuh... saving the entire world from death at the cost of a single guy would probably just leave me depressed, not wanting to punch stuff.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

TenCentFang posted:

According to Wikipedia, he found a random baby in an alley, adopted it, and then it died of AIDs, so he came out to raise awareness. I have no idea why he's jumping, although if dramatic proclamations while leaping through the air was a gay stereotype, I wanna reclaim it.

If dramatic proclamations while leaping through the air was a gay stereotype, Wolverine has got to be the gayest character ever.

TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

Grendels Dad posted:

If dramatic proclamations while leaping through the air was a gay stereotype, Wolverine has got to be the gayest character ever.

Well...

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Grendels Dad posted:

If dramatic proclamations while leaping through the air was a gay stereotype, Wolverine has got to be the gayest character ever.

Does this mean Batman and Robin are super gay as well? First I'm hearing of it.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

evilmiera posted:

Well, I get that he'd be mad but uuuh... saving the entire world from death at the cost of a single guy would probably just leave me depressed, not wanting to punch stuff.

That's because you're not a superhero.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Grendels Dad posted:

If dramatic proclamations while leaping through the air was a gay stereotype, Wolverine has got to be the gayest character ever.

James Howlett, Former Governor General of Dominion of Canada and Viceroy of Her Majesty's Expedition To Shangri-La, agrees:

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.

Chinston Wurchill posted:

On one hand I really have no interest in the Inhumans, but on the other hand I really want to read this Ryan North Lockjaw backup.





I went for it. The backup stories are only two pages, but they're cute. The main story is okay despite my relative unfamiliarity with Inhumans, and as someone else mentioned the art is very good.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




Yep, those signatures are apparently real.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Grendels Dad posted:

If dramatic proclamations while leaping through the air was a gay stereotype, Wolverine has got to be the gayest character ever.

Psylocke, too.



Does she use he telekinesis to levitate butt-first?

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Lobok posted:

Does this mean Batman and Robin are super gay as well? First I'm hearing of it.

What, you never read Seduction of the Innocent?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

Selachian posted:

What, you never read Seduction of the Innocent?

Has anyone ever tracked that book down to read it? It comes up in every history of comics.

TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

A Strange Aeon posted:

Has anyone ever tracked that book down to read it? It comes up in every history of comics.

It's remarkably boring. I've always thought that as dumb as it was, he was kind of a geek culture scapegoat when the real dicks were DC for using the controversy to support the code and gently caress over EC Comics.

joehonkie
Jan 12, 2006

I'm a member of STARS.

Say Nothing posted:

Psylocke, too.



Does she use he telekinesis to levitate butt-first?

It hurts the eyes. I miss waifish British Psylocke.

Takezio
Nov 7, 2011

Say Nothing posted:

Psylocke, too.



Does she use he telekinesis to levitate butt-first?

That panel always reminds me of that thing where rabbits can break their backs by jumping too hard running from a predator.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist

TenCentFang posted:

It's remarkably boring. I've always thought that as dumb as it was, he was kind of a geek culture scapegoat when the real dicks were DC for using the controversy to support the code and gently caress over EC Comics.

Yeah, I love EC and the code was written specifically to kill them by disallowing the words Weird, Horror, Terror, etc., it ruined most of their lines.

SomeJazzyRat
Nov 2, 2012

Hmmm...
Gay Wolverine, that reminds me.



For anyone who doesn't know, it is all intentional.

Cassa
Jan 29, 2009
Was it a 'see if anyone would notice' kinda thing?

Pacra
Aug 5, 2004

Cassa posted:

Was it a 'see if anyone would notice' kinda thing?

Greg Rucka on tumblr posted:

Please note the placement of the beer bottle.
I once was at a show where I asked Esad about this cover.
Esad is a big, cheerful, man with a wicked sense of humor.
He just looked at me.
And then he smiled.
And the smile got bigger.
And bigger.
And he said, “And nobody at Marvel noticed!”
And then he couldn’t stop laughing.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012



Help, I don't get it I'm dumb. Is there something weird about the beer bottle he's holding? Is the joke that he's holding it in front of his crotch so it kinda looks like he's touching himself if you squint?

TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ariong posted:

Help, I don't get it I'm dumb. Is there something weird about the beer bottle he's holding? Is the joke that he's holding it in front of his crotch so it kinda looks like he's touching himself if you squint?

It's right above Wolverine's crotch, implying an erection.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Wolverine's been around a long time. Long enough to assume he got experimental at least once.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

Ariong posted:

Help, I don't get it I'm dumb. Is there something weird about the beer bottle he's holding? Is the joke that he's holding it in front of his crotch so it kinda looks like he's touching himself if you squint?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsHg0Oo2FEk&t=49s

Except replace gun with bottle

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

A Strange Aeon posted:

Has anyone ever tracked that book down to read it? It comes up in every history of comics.

Sure. My public library had a copy back in the day. It's mostly interesting for the array of lurid panels Wertham excerpts, some of which can be pretty over the top when you consider this was the era when comics were still considered for kids...

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Lobok posted:

Wolverine's been around a long time. Long enough to assume he got experimental at least once.

Yes. They called it Marvel Comics Presents: Weapon X. Barry Windsor Smith did it.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



evilmiera posted:

Well, I get that he'd be mad but uuuh... saving the entire world from death at the cost of a single guy would probably just leave me depressed, not wanting to punch stuff.
The guy who really got hosed up was Banshee, who was cruising next to the jet and had a clear shot and was like "get off the plane ya ijit" but nope Thunderbird wanted to go out that way.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

evilmiera posted:

Well, I get that he'd be mad but uuuh... saving the entire world from death at the cost of a single guy would probably just leave me depressed, not wanting to punch stuff.

It's been a long time since I read it, but did he actually save the entire world from death, or did he just stop Nefaria from escaping after he'd already been beaten?

Goffer
Apr 4, 2007
"..."

Ariong posted:

Help, I don't get it I'm dumb. Is there something weird about the beer bottle he's holding? Is the joke that he's holding it in front of his crotch so it kinda looks like he's touching himself if you squint?

Also maybe that finger circle game that the naked nightcrawler is doing? (Bad cheeseburger nsfw link ref - http://cheezburger.com/7939558912)

Pacra
Aug 5, 2004

Can't believe we would have to spell this out, but -
- Nightcrawler is obviously naked
- Wolverine's gaze is crotch level
- Aforementioned beer bottle erection placement
- The position of the two and the camera angle is a classic porn cover setup

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


TenCentFang posted:

It's remarkably boring. I've always thought that as dumb as it was, he was kind of a geek culture scapegoat when the real dicks were DC for using the controversy to support the code and gently caress over EC Comics.

Should've seen what they did to CC Comics.

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism

Pacra posted:

Can't believe we would have to spell this out, but -
- Nightcrawler is obviously naked
- Wolverine's gaze is crotch level
- Aforementioned beer bottle erection placement
- The position of the two and the camera angle is a classic porn cover setup

My favourite part of that cover is Esad Ribic's “And nobody at Marvel noticed!” response when Greg Rucka asked him about it.

Elfface
Nov 14, 2010

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH
I mean... other than the beer-bottle-erection, it just looks like Wolverine is grumpy.

"Oh fer... Kurt, you can teleport between the shower and yer bedroom. I KNOW you're doing this on purpose for me taking the lord's name in vain."

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


If your erection levitates 2 feet away from your body seek medical attention. I mean if Ribic says it was intentional pretty hard to argue that, but I'm really not seeing it

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TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

Retro Futurist posted:

If your erection levitates 2 feet away from your body seek medical attention. I mean if Ribic says it was intentional pretty hard to argue that, but I'm really not seeing it

It's symbolic, man.

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