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Guns are some weird newfangled device that a lot of longbeards don't trust despite the dwarves having had them for iirc centuries.
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Ravenfood posted:Guns are some weird newfangled device that a lot of longbeards don't trust despite the dwarves having had them for iirc centuries. Yep. Crossbows on the other hand literally date back to the divine creation of the dwarf race and were given to them by the gods, so they're fine.
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Sep 10, 2017 20:54
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Sep 10, 2017 20:57
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I am actually looking forward chaos dwarves
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Sep 10, 2017 21:01
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Dwarves are craftsmen, but they are not generally innovators. They require certainty and precision in their machines, and innovation fucks with both of those. A dwarf crossbow might seem unimpressive compared to a musket, but it's the best most reliable crossbow you've ever held in your hands
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Sep 10, 2017 21:03
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Chaos Dwarves have forsaken tradition and so their creative insights are unchained by excessive caution. Therefore they are technologically about on par with Skaven
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Sep 10, 2017 21:08
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Chaos Dwarfs literally have a divine commandment to build bigger, badder, and crazier.
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Third World Reggin posted:I am actually looking forward chaos dwarves Now there's a hat I can respect!
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here is your dwarf army, chaos hitlers instead of little hitlers oh cool, so you got dwarf troops, some heavily armored slayers, useless goblin, hobgoblin, and orc slaves, black orks and what is that yah half centaur dwarf cav and stupid good arty? yah sure ok, and you get magic
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there are a couple of pretty good mods fleshing out the 4 chaos god armies and chaos dwarves. just dont use them together or you get a building browser so big it flies off the right side of the screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gNUoLV6DKE some annoying music in the beginning of this one but a big city siege with all 4 armies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TqqJExovCw&t=1212s\ Chaos: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=894230944 Chaos Dwarves: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=913641271
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Sep 10, 2017 21:30
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Goddamn, does the balance of power algorithm have a hard-on for AI Savage Orcs or what? 4 battles in a row I should have easily auto-resolved (3v1, high tier/veteran units, etc) yet the BoP keeps telling me I was significantly disadvantaged. It ain't a big deal but it's drat annoying.
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Sep 10, 2017 22:25
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Tamurkhan in Game 3 please.
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Sep 10, 2017 22:30
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Dandywalken posted:Tamurkhan in Game 3 please. Hell yeah
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Sep 10, 2017 22:39
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Dandywalken posted:Tamurkhan in Game 3 please. I like how the historical ripoffs get increasingly in-your-face the further east you get like, in the old world they'll take a name and put it through google translate a few times at least, but then you have "oh yeah in the far east is the land of, uh, Chinor"
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Sep 10, 2017 22:42
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Well I mean they just straight up used "cathay" and "nippon" rather than change anything at all edit: BUT there's also "albion" where it rains every day so it's not only the far east of the warhammer world that's supremely low-effort peer fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Sep 10, 2017 |
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Sep 10, 2017 22:50
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Yeah his name is cheesy as gently caress, but the fact that he's a parasitic grub that bores into a new host to take over its motor functions on death is prefty sweet. Potential quest battle potential too, culminating in the Ogre Tyrants body as host.
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Sep 10, 2017 23:05
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Dandywalken posted:Tamurkhan in Game 3 please. Would be cool if Chaos warrior and marauder (Hordes of Chaos factions maybe) in game 3 get reskinned and rerostered to be more Turkic/Scythian rather than viking and with more of a cavalry focus with marauder horse archers, foot archers, lancers and such instead of the axe-toting and javelin-throwing Norscan marauders.
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Sep 10, 2017 23:13
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Randarkman posted:Would be cool if Chaos warrior and marauder (Hordes of Chaos factions maybe) in game 3 get reskinned and rerostered to be more Turkic/Scythian rather than viking and with more of a cavalry focus with marauder horse archers, foot archers, lancers and such instead of the axe-toting and javelin-throwing Norscan marauders. Well, that's canonically the Kurgan. That's how they do and who they're meant to be.
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Yes but do you really want to fight more marauder horsemasters?
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Night10194 posted:Well, that's canonically the Kurgan. That's how they do and who they're meant to be. Yeah, that's what I meant. If game 3 is going to take place east of game 1 (and maybe with more stuff to the north, chaos wastes, and possibly the south) then the Chaos marauders and the associated non-player chaos-aligned factions should be Kurgans rather than Norscans. Eimi posted:Yes but do you really want to fight more marauder horsemasters? Well, it wouldn't make sense for a Kurgan-based Chaos faction not to have missile cavalry, and really they should be horse-archers rathern than javelin-throwers and axe-throwers, more like glade riders really. In order for it not to be annoying I think you would have to go the Norscan route of deepening the roster so that those skirmish cavalry units aren't the top tier units, that they'll eventually churn out lots of. Support it with other stuff, you could for instance go the marauder champion route and give them some decently well armored heavy cavalry that's not quite Chaos Knights, maybe also with some different armament (armor-piercing maces would make sense for a faction based off Turkic nomads, as that was one of their favored weapons). Randarkman fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Sep 11, 2017 00:53
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What is Cathay supposed to be?
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China, with a "Celestial Golden Emperor" or some such
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rockopete posted:China, with a "Celestial Golden Emperor" or some such Isn't there a bunch of Japanese poo poo mashed in there as well? It's like some apex orientalism fantasy country.
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JBP posted:Isn't there a bunch of Japanese poo poo mashed in there as well? It's like some apex orientalism fantasy country. there's a distinct country which is literally just japanese for "japan" (along with a not-india called "Ind")
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Sep 11, 2017 02:33
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Yes, though "Nippon" is also mentioned so that may be the not-Japan focus.
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Nippon actually has an army list from.... I think 2nd edition? It's really hard to tell that its from a fantasy setting though. Like if you took a Shogun 2 clan and gave them foo dogs, there's your nippon list. Cathay has a number of unique units mentioned but nothing ever statted out Ind has some kind of strange metal and they're hassled by beastmen with tiger heads
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:there's a distinct country which is literally just japanese for "japan" (along with a not-india called "Ind") Ah yeah that's right. Well, at least they broke up the fantasy analogues.
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I knew there was something: Tamurkhan - the Throne of Chaos, a book from Forge World's fantasy line, quite surprisingly contains a battle scene where the forces of Cathay are involved. A chaos sorcerer dupes a Beastman army into attacking the Tower of Ashshair, a Cathayan watchtower outpost at the edge of the Ogre Kingdoms which it uses to scry on the Old World. Its defenders included fancy bronze cannon that shoot harpoons, "crow-men", stone "temple dogs", elite warriors with back-banners and "thousand-folded" swords, and "Dragon-blooded Shugengan" who wield elemental magics. In other words, your usual collection of oriental cliches, mostly Japanese.
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So Kemmler's actually pretty fun to play now guys. He was my first campaign in the game and it's very cool seeing all the changes, new abilities, units and factions in play. The new master necromancer skill trees means fielding large amounts of chaff is cheaper, easier and more effective as they'll hold their binding for a lot longer Wading Kemmler into the melee, popping Cloak of Shadows (80% damage resist), casting Wind of Death at their lord to clear a path for a goddamn skeleton king to finish them off is pretty awesome. Cheesy villain cackling is mandated in every Kemmler campaign
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rockopete posted:China, with a "Celestial Golden Emperor" or some such Not just some rich dude, but like literally wielding godlike powers. Brought down the creature that would shatter the ogre kingdoms' culture and livelihood and become their new god. A reeeealllll son of a bitch. I'd like for CA to bring Cathay and Nippon and Ind, etc., to bear in some game later on, even if they're relatively transparent racist stereotypes; they're at least some new types of human armies in a world that already consists of "really lovely frenchmen" and "literally demonic Americans that took the slave thing way, way farther and in a more edgy direction". It's not like GW should give a poo poo, and I really really hate fantasy settings that have some crazy cool poo poo go down that is never involved with the main "storyline" like the poo poo that happens in the far east of the ASOIAF universe. A region known for marauding hordes and brutal slavery and fabulous wealth erected a series of forts to keep out something far more hosed up that's to the east of them? That's what's up. I care a lot more about that than what the consistency of a main character's poop was. jokes fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Frankly posted:So Kemmler's actually pretty fun to play now guys. He was my first campaign in the game and it's very cool seeing all the changes, new abilities, units and factions in play. The new master necromancer skill trees means fielding large amounts of chaff is cheaper, easier and more effective as they'll hold their binding for a lot longer Yeah, Kemmler's pretty legit ever since the new skill trees dropped, and once you max him out Krell is an unholy murderbeast. Ghorst is the lamest Vampire lord now in terms of gameplay. Mannfred's the actual lamest though, on account of being Mannfred 
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Psycho Landlord posted:Yeah, Kemmler's pretty legit ever since the new skill trees dropped, and once you max him out Krell is an unholy murderbeast. Ghorst is the lamest Vampire lord now in terms of gameplay. Ghorst pretty much spends his days camped in Essen after I accidentally hired him and couldn't disband him I'll have enough spooky coins to give him an army...somedayI kinda like how manny is such an insufferable dweeb. Considering all my other generals are Necromancers rn I just like to think that manny's found his calling as King of the Undead Nerd Castle and is busy trying to undermine the Dude Emperor Karl Franz
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Frankly posted:Ghorst pretty much spends his days camped in Essen after I accidentally hired him and couldn't disband him If you go to his details screen with equipment and such, there's a button in the bottom right to replace him with another lord. If you replace him with a non-legendary lord you can then disband the stack. It's really dumb but it works.
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You guys weren't kidding about Durthu. I confederated him in a Wood Elf campaign and he got attacked by 2 stacks of Tilean Troops (mostly greatswords with some ranged support and empire knights) and he took a treeman sized poo poo on them and walked off laughing. They charged him with halberds while I was chasing ranged troops with Wild Riders and he just pasted them anyway then turned around and beat their general to death hilariously quickly.
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hooman posted:You guys weren't kidding about Durthu. I will always remember him basically soloing a dwarf province. I attacked with Bretonnia AI but they did jackshit to help and so did most of my army, so basically the entire battle was watching him slowly chew through the fortress and killing almost everything inside.
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pnutz posted:what happens when the ogre tries to eat the ammo? They belch grapeshot at their enemies
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Staltran posted:If you go to his details screen with equipment and such, there's a button in the bottom right to replace him with another lord. If you replace him with a non-legendary lord you can then disband the stack. It's really dumb but it works. Awh no way! Thanks for the tip. Also I'm looking to build a new PC that can handle Total Hams 2, what sort of rig do you guys who play on Ultra have?
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Frankly posted:Awh no way! Thanks for the tip. Just get a 1080 and a modern quad core. You'll be fine
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