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Jeb! Repetition posted:Is the helmsman the unfunny black guy or the Captain MacFarlane's supportive best friend guy? The latter. The black guy's the navigator, iirc. In my opinion, he's not grating like the helmsman is. ("I'm still learning names.")
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Rigel posted:I really don't understand why the critics blasted this show so badly. I mean, its not going to be the greatest show ever made on TV, but its a solid, entertaining show and I'm already committed to watching the season. How the hell did it get 11% on rotten tomatoes? I can definitely see where the negative reaction is coming from. I'm sure some reviewers were pissed that this is literally just Star Trek and not something that's explicitly making fun of Star Trek, but lots of stuff didn't work for me. I kind of wish this wasn't trying to be a comedy at all. Almost every single gag was some weird aside that completely broke the flow of the episode or outright interrupted a scene, which just made the really groan worthy ones stand out even more. I don't know. I'll give it a few more episodes, but only because I'm a huge nerd that desperately wants Galaxy Quest: The TV Show to actually exist. Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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I liked the pilot. The idea of a utopian society at the highest levels that has real humans populating it and running it has, in many ways, even more of an appeal than the Roddenberry-esque humanish characters in the TNG era. The fact that human characters that are flawed mistake makers can work to make a better place and explore the galaxy is really encouraging, especially given today's zietgeist. The humor works sometimes, and sometimes it doesn't. When it did I laughed pretty hard, so that's a plus in my book. I think the weakest part of the whole deal is Gordon the helmsman, he's too chaotic and frankly got irritating. I'm hoping they eventually tone that poo poo down. In short, I'd give it a 7/10. Watchable but a little rough around the edges. The whole show has a tremendous amount of potential though.
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The helmsman everyone is hating on is Steve Smith. Which is to say, I hope they have an episode where an alien possesses them to sing.
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mycomancy posted:I liked the pilot. The idea of a utopian society at the highest levels that has real humans populating it and running it has, in many ways, even more of an appeal than the Roddenberry-esque humanish characters in the TNG era. The fact that human characters that are flawed mistake makers can work to make a better place and explore the galaxy is really encouraging, especially given today's zietgeist. Yep. For example, take the divorce poo poo. The strained relationship of former lovers being forced to work together again is very similar to Riker and Deanna, or their prototypes Decker and Illya. But while the ST versions consisted of chaste smouldering looks and Serious Discussions, the relationship between the Captain of the Orville and his XO is a lot more like the way people talk in real life in such a circumstance.
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I liked it enough that I'll keep watching. I laughed at enough things and the things I didn't laugh at didn't bother me. I'm glad it's not super good, because that would be a guarantee that Fox would cancel it. Since it is ok to mediocre, Fox will probably give it a second season.
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Fox.com & Hulu have it on demand now, so if your cable provider is waiting till Tuesday like Spectrum, you can watch it immediately. I went in with low expectations from all the negative publicity. I enjoyed it despite some of the cringy & cliche moments. Here's to hoping it's not cancelled immediately. Someone made the joke elsewhere that the XO should grow a beard like Riker did and have the rest of the crew just accept it as if it wasn't out of the ordinary.
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This was aggressively mediocre and the jokes were all bad.  Basically Paradoxish posted:I kind of wish this wasn't trying to be a comedy at all. Almost every single gag was some weird aside that completely broke the flow of the episode or outright interrupted a scene, which just made the really groan worthy ones stand out even more.
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It might just be because I'm so starved for more good Trek but I was fine with this and will keep watching. It wasn't perfect but it was good and I had fun watching it and a lot of the overt Trek stuff like the music and the ship flybys made me feel fuzzy and good and that's what I want.
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Paradoxish posted:I can definitely see where the negative reaction is coming from. I'm sure some reviewers were pissed that this is literally just Star Trek and not something that's explicitly making fun of Star Trek, but lots of stuff didn't work for me. I kind of wish this wasn't trying to be a comedy at all. Almost every single gag was some weird aside that completely broke the flow of the episode or outright interrupted a scene, which just made the really groan worthy ones stand out even more. I'll agree here. I enjoyed it when it was laid-back Star Trek, which included some gags like the guy outside the window at the end which fit with the world. But a lot of the time it felt like reaching too far for the joke .
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1.Whats-his-name will never be a Picard or a Sisko, but he might get close to an Archer. 2.I've mentally swapped their spaceship for a Miranda class. 3.It's better than Code of Honor, but not as good as Move Along Home. 4.They probably should have started with a two parter. It would give the setup some room to breathe.
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Someone earlier said it was better than "Encounter at Farpoint." The obvious joke here is to say that's not saying much, but really, it was a lot better. In fact, I never once found myself checking to see how much time was left (though if it had been double-length I might have). I stayed interested from start to finish, and who here can say that about "Encounter?" Also the music sounds like a cross between The Last Starfighter and "Bride of Chaotica," which is to say a bit quirky, but good.
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It's the small things. The Orville flyby when they zoom into the bridge is taken right out of "The Cage."
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Like a lot of people I thought the first episode was just okay. I'm not really feeling the characters, and that probably keeps me from outright liking it more than anything else. I've felt that way before about shows and casts that I ended up really liking eventually so I'm willing to give it some time. I don't think I'll ever like the helmsman though. Seems like he's supposed to be some lovable doofus who can kind of a jerk, but really he just comes off as an unlikeable rear end. I don't see much commentary here on how the ship moves, but I want to show some appreciation. It zips around in a way that feels alien and unnatural, but in a good way. It really sells the idea that it's a craft built with advanced technology beyond our current understanding, and not just a big space boat.
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The pilot is not very funny at all. I kinda wish the show has the Star Trek IP. Currently it is just too close to Trek and it is distracting. I like it enough to keep watching but it is definitely not great.
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Also I just love that the engineering toolkit they used was a couple of rolls of duct tape and a hot glue gun.
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I thought this was good, even as a pilot. Given some time for the cast to gel this could be really good. McFarlanes love for Star Trek really shows.
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raditts posted:I didn't hate it, but I have no desire to watch any more of it. My opinion of it is a perfect This sums up our house. Wife's a Trek fan and expected it'd be a hatewatch, I was actually looking forward to it, and by the end both of us just felt like we'd wasted our time. Won't be giving it another go.
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Astroman posted:A shameful Star Trek fan...  I'll watch "Code of Honor" three times in a row as penance.
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Well.... This has potential, but it certainly needs work. I want to like this, but it's SO SLOW. Would it be better as a 1/2 hr sitcom like The Good Place? The main problem is that McFarlane is awful as an actor. He's just so smarmy & smug.
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Funny enough, well done everywhere else. I think i'm all in. Norm sealed the deal i think.
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Andrew_1985 posted:Well.... This has potential, but it certainly needs work. I want to like this, but it's SO SLOW. Would it be better as a 1/2 hr sitcom like The Good Place? I liked the premiere overall. None of the humor was really laugh-out-loud funny, but it didn't break the flow too badly for me. I'm looking forward to the next couple of episodes -- the AVClub TV fall preview said it starts showing real promise in episode 3 (I believe most media outlets got the first three episodes).
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I did moderately enjoy it, but then again I've watched Red Dwarf a bit into the bad seasons, so I can put up with some bad jokes if the story/characters are likeable. I'd say about half of the jokes worked (mainly the ones that had actual thought and comedic timing put into them, not the ones just tossed out to fill time). You can't really use jokes that break immersion if you're trying hard to also make a legitimate future sci-fi setting. I dunno if knowing who "Papa Smurf" or (from the preview) the phrase "tell the kids to roll the windows up" actually makes sense if you're 400 years in the future. I preferred the jokes that were just riffs on Star Trek conventions, like programming a funny personality for the holodeck orc or telling the enemy captain to step into frame. They're also leaning wayyyyy hard on this ex-wife cheating story. Even in the preview she cracks a joke about surviving a divorce. We get it, it's your only characteristic, come up with something new.
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I'm not sure where people are getting smug from other than projecting on Seth. Everything about the episode was him being thankful for a command and a desire to live up to the responsibility.
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I love everyone being all "it was trash and I shan't be watching it again." It's the first loving episode, of course it's rough. At least give it a few before you relegate it to the trash can.
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I do wish fewer of the jokes were literally balls and penis because as it stands I can't see recommending it to my parents. Cojawfee posted:I love everyone being all "it was trash and I shan't be watching it again." It's the first loving episode, of course it's rough. At least give it a few before you relegate it to the trash can. Shhh the cool kids are talking, nerd.
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I like this less head up its rear end TNG.
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My last captain said we could have soda on the bridge. Is it okay if we still do that? I really like that bit even though it's not really a joke. Feels like something I'd say if I were in Starfleet.
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vermin posted:My last captain said we could have soda on the bridge. Is it okay if we still do that? I think that made it realistic. Sure it's set 400 years from now, but the people seem real.
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TV critics sure seem to hate the poo poo out of this show. They all love This Is Us, so gently caress all of them.
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They've also seen more episodes, including the apparently atrocious episode 3.
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I like this better than Farscape so I think it deserves to live
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vermin posted:I like this better than Farscape so I think it deserves to live It's a lot better than Firefly, that's for sure.
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Davros1 posted:It's a lot better than Firefly, that's for sure. THANK YOU
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Aphrodite posted:They've also seen more episodes, including the apparently atrocious episode 3. Time for Fox to do what Fox does best and air the episodes out of order!
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Medullah posted:Time for Fox to do what Fox does best and air the episodes out of order! Seth has specifically said the show is not serialized and can be viewed in any order.
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Ohtsam posted:Thats quite a split The robot gets really, really racist in the later preview eps.
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