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Inescapable Duck posted:Artistic movements like postmodernism don't necessarily invent anything, what they do is open up spaces for different ideas, techniques and experiments which might not have been previously discussed or taken seriously. You can find elements of what might be called postmodernism way back in classical Greek theatre, they just didn't have the same words for it.
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Sorry to interrupt the serious academic discussion, but I was following links from the Handbook for Mortals thread and came across something that might be of interest. It's a (n incomplete) chapter-by-chapter sporking of a book called Tiger's Curse by Colleen Houck: https://web.archive.org/web/20170327050103/http://chezapocalypse.com/category/readthrough-tigers-curse/page/2/ The book features an orphan girl who runs away from her annoying guardians to join the circus, and is immediately hired (despite her total lack of relevant knowledge or work experience) as a caretake for a white tiger. She feels a mysterious connection to the tiger, who smells like jasmine and sandalwood. Turns out, he's actually a 300-year-old Indian prince who was transmogrified by his enemies!
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I don't know how anyone could say modern literature isn't superior to that of the past. The Victorians did not have Iain M. Banks and Warhammer 40k novels, the unquestioned pinnacles of prose art.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I don't know how anyone could say modern literature isn't superior to that of the past. The Victorians did not have Iain M. Banks and Warhammer 40k novels, the unquestioned pinnacles of prose art. What's wrong with Iain M. Banks. No, seriously. I only read Consider Phlebas and I liked it. Player Of Games is next on my list. Does he get weird later?
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Sep 11, 2017 05:39
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Don't worry, an author being mentioned in the terrible book thread doesn't make them Piers Anthony.
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SerialKilldeer posted:Sorry to interrupt the serious academic discussion, but I was following links from the Handbook for Mortals thread and came across something that might be of interest. It's a (n incomplete) chapter-by-chapter sporking of a book called Tiger's Curse by Colleen Houck: https://web.archive.org/web/20170327050103/http://chezapocalypse.com/category/readthrough-tigers-curse/page/2/ Doesn't sound like it'd be too out of place in some old fairy tale book, though guessing the story takes it a lot more seriously.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I don't know how anyone could say modern literature isn't superior to that of the past. The Victorians did not have Iain M. Banks and Warhammer 40k novels, the unquestioned pinnacles of prose art. the pinnacle of literature is ten thousand novels about 'orrible murders
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Sep 11, 2017 09:44
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Most genre novels aren't worth wiping one's rear end with. Unfortunately, the same can be said for most non-genre novels, because 99.9999999% of everything is not good.
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Sep 11, 2017 10:43
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Genre fiction gets a bad rap because bad books that involve dragons and/or spaceships and/or vampires are more fun to joke about than bad books that don't involve them.
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Sep 11, 2017 11:45
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that "do you know techno" youtube clip, but books instead
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Sep 11, 2017 11:54
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Arcsquad12 posted:Last time I was in Chapters I saw that book and laughed. Then I saw World War Moo and it had a better cover. Right, I'm going to read that book judging it solely by its cover.
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Sep 11, 2017 11:58
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Inescapable Duck posted:Genre fiction gets a bad rap because bad books that involve dragons and/or spaceships and/or vampires are more fun to joke about than bad books that don't involve them. Yeah. It's much easier to take the piss out of M'tar-qlzt, WARRIOUR OF ÞARN and his dwarven gunchucks (they're two guns joined together with a length of chain, you see) than it is to mock the midlife crisis of Simon Blake, shoe salesman and father of two, and his repressed passion for the young woman who works in the stockroom. Genre fiction just seems to go wrong in more entertaining ways. Bad literary fiction is just dull.
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Groke posted:Right, I'm going to read that book judging it solely by its cover. Can't be any worse than World War Z.
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Sep 11, 2017 14:59
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The_White_Crane posted:Genre fiction just seems to go wrong in more entertaining ways. Bad literary fiction is just dull.
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Sep 11, 2017 15:18
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Bad literary fiction is dull until you get to a sex scene, and then it's all jismic butt-oinks and doorknob masturbation. Did someone say bad literary sex scene? Did you know Morrissey wrote a book? posted:Eliza and Ezra rolled together into the one giggling snowball of full-figured copulation, screaming and shouting as they playfully bit and pulled at each other in a dangerous and clamorous rollercoaster coil of sexually violent rotation with Eliza’s breasts barrel-rolled across Ezra’s howling mouth and the pained frenzy of his bulbous salutation extenuating his excitement as it smacked its way into every muscle of Eliza’s body except for the otherwise central zone.
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Sep 11, 2017 16:13
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tasukiscool posted:Did someone say bad literary sex scene? PYF terrible book: the pained frenzy of his bulbous salutation
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Sep 11, 2017 16:16
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The Guardian do a good writeup every year of the Bad Sex in Literature awards https://www.theguardian.com/books/badsexaward Plenty fun quotes if you read a few of the articles.
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tasukiscool posted:Did someone say bad literary sex scene? I'm imagining one of fighting clouds like they have in cartoons.
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Sep 11, 2017 17:24
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Douglas Adams wrote the best sex scene by having Arthur dent and Fenchurch have sec in the sky next to a passing jetliner
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Arcsquad12 posted:Douglas Adams wrote the best sex scene by having Arthur dent and Fenchurch have sec in the sky next to a passing jetliner Also he put a disclaimer right before it telling readers "here comes a sex scene and related stuff so if you don't want to read it skip ahead this many chapters because Marvin shows up there".
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Sep 11, 2017 18:40
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 I dunno, it might be good, don't judge a book by its back cover etc  also from the tumblr post I found the pic on quote:OK FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON’T REALIZE, SANDRA HILL IS THE WOMAN WHO WROTE “ROUGH AMD READY” ANOTHER EROTIC VIKING NOVEL. SOME OF THE MORE MEMORABLE QUOTES BEING:
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Sep 11, 2017 20:52
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That is the greatest comedic sex dialogue I've ever read, post excerpts.
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Sep 11, 2017 20:56
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NoneMoreNegative posted:“Her body was like a beautiful flower that was opening and somebody was pushing their dick inside it.” ok, that makes "sexy Deadly Angels series" plausibly worth it
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Sep 11, 2017 20:58
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NoneMoreNegative posted:
if i never see the back of this loving book again it'll be too soon
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Sep 11, 2017 22:05
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It's so hard to believe that's not deliberately "bad", like a book version of Sharknado.
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Sep 11, 2017 22:15
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NoneMoreNegative posted:
Yeah that just loving owns.
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Sep 11, 2017 22:29
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There is no loving way anyone writes "Torolf entered her like she was a lottery." in a supposedly erotic context and expects it to be taken seriously, that has to be a parody. And “Her body was like a beautiful flower that was opening and somebody was pushing their dick inside it.” is quite literally one of the funniest things I've read, possibly ever.
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SiKboy posted:There is no loving way anyone writes "Torolf entered her like she was a lottery." in a supposedly erotic context and expects it to be taken seriously, that has to be a parody. And “Her body was like a beautiful flower that was opening and somebody was pushing their dick inside it.” is quite literally one of the funniest things I've read, possibly ever. It's seriously one step above My Immortal, so i can't enjoy it. Handbook for Mortals, on the other hand, gets all the little details just perfect. It cannot possibly be some kind of ploy to get controversy so bad it's good dollars, and I love it. It's like Twisted 2: The Twisteding.
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TenCentFang posted:It's so hard to believe that's not deliberately "bad", like a book version of Sharknado.
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tasukiscool posted:Did someone say bad literary sex scene? quote:Eliza’s breasts barrel-rolled across Ezra’s howling mouth  (Also, fun surprise when you type "do a barrel roll" into Google.)
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Sham bam bamina! posted:No poo poo. People just keep bringing it up like it's real, man.
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TenCentFang posted:People just keep bringing it up like it's real, man. Sham bam bamina! has a new favorite as of 01:03 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Charles and Sarah are a typical New York creative class couple -- he's in finance, she works at a hipster small press, yet both are indie-rock East Village veterans who aren't above snorting a little heroin on the weekends. But when they decide to take the logical next step and buy a condo in one of the glass-and-steel skyscrapers now dotting the waterfront of Williamsburg, their lives start to fall apart almost the moment after they sign their mortgage; and this is to say nothing of their creepy neighbors, their possibly haunted apartment, job crises in both their industries, and former friends still in Manhattan who are determined to pull them back into the debauchery. A touching ode to the a--holes ruining Brooklyn, this literary debut of "the Millennial John Updike" is a funny yet wistful dramedy about young urban life during the Great Recession, and you do not need to be a New Yorker yourself to enjoy his smart insights about city living and growing older...although that certainly doesn't hurt.
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TenCentFang posted:It's seriously one step above My Immortal, so i can't enjoy it. Handbook for Mortals, on the other hand, gets all the little details just perfect. It cannot possibly be some kind of ploy to get controversy so bad it's good dollars, and I love it. It's like Twisted 2: The Twisteding. Lani Sarem has defended Handbook for Mortals ceaselessly, so I'm confident that it was an entirely serious attempt at getting famous. Someone in my Let's Read thread found an interview where she mentioned how she originally wrote it as a screenplay and turned it into a novel; the book supports this, as it runs exclusively on "Tell, don't show" and describes complicated visual effects like magic duels and teleporting without explaining anything about where Zade's power comes from or what goes through her mind and body when she casts such powerful spells. It's also got a ton of pointless errors, like incompletely highlighting paragraphs before italicizing or accidentally typing a word or part of a sentence twice, which suggests it was a first draft without an editor. It's written like a bad fanfic, only it's by a 35-year-old woman.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Charles and Sarah are a typical New York creative class couple -- he's in finance, she works at a hipster small press, yet both are indie-rock East Village veterans who aren't above snorting a little heroin on the weekends. But when they decide to take the logical next step and buy a condo in one of the glass-and-steel skyscrapers now dotting the waterfront of Williamsburg, their lives start to fall apart almost the moment after they sign their mortgage; and this is to say nothing of their creepy neighbors, their possibly haunted apartment, job crises in both their industries, and former friends still in Manhattan who are determined to pull them back into the debauchery. A touching ode to the a--holes ruining Brooklyn, this literary debut of "the Millennial John Updike" is a funny yet wistful dramedy about young urban life during the Great Recession, and you do not need to be a New Yorker yourself to enjoy his smart insights about city living and growing older...although that certainly doesn't hurt. Didn't IDEOTV do an ep on this one?
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chitoryu12 posted:Lani Sarem has defended Handbook for Mortals ceaselessly, so I'm confident that it was an entirely serious attempt at getting famous. Right? It's so beautiful and I never want it to end. Bless you for doing the read of it.
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A Pinball Wizard posted:Didn't IDEOTV do an ep on this one?
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Nckdictator posted:
From a little ways back, but: This book is free on Amazon Unlimited, so I'm going to have to read it now.
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chitoryu12 posted:It's written like a bad fanfic, only it's by a 35-year-old woman. I have news for you about who writes probably the most bad fanfics...
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neongrey posted:I have news for you about who writes probably the most bad fanfics... Based on the typical knowledge of male anatomy i had assumed they were written by teenage virgins.
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