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Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Get a proper switch to connect the routers together and ideally don't use a second router. Get an AP to do the wifi.

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Veinless
Sep 11, 2008

Smells like motivation

Veinless posted:

Any recommendations for an unmanaged 8-16 port switch with POE+ for CCTV purposes? If 8 port would also need an uplink port (preferably gigabit).

Follow-up on this: I ended up picking up a TP-Link TL-SG1016PE. Feels good having some reasonable kit in the house.

semper wifi
Oct 31, 2007
I live in a ~1600 square foot, 2 story apartment where the only cable connection is in the opposite corner and two walls away from where i want it to be, but I can use about 50-60 feet of cable to move the router (i have an ASUS RT-AC68U that was bought ~2 years ago) or modem to a more central location. should i do this, and if yes should i use coax to move the modem with router attached, or should I leave it and move only the router with a long ethernet cable? google seems to suggest either will work OK but i wanted to consult this thread before stapling cable all over the walls.

right now my signal strength is always at 1 bar (the strength on the wireless card fluctuates between -70 and -80 dbm), but the internet works ok. there are also about 20 other wifi networks visible to me in the area.

other options that occurred to me: a range extender (which in my limited experience have always been lovely), power-line adapters (which have also sucked ime), or one of those mesh networks (seems like overkill)

semper wifi fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Sep 6, 2017

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Move the router only with a long Ethernet cable.

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Argona posted:

buffalo whr-g3oon

does it have stairs in its house?

EconOutlines
Jul 3, 2004

Looking for Comcast modem recommendations from the approved list for a 100/5 connection.



I'm surprised I managed to get by for 3.5 years without getting charged, so I won't complain. I'm currently on a 100/5 plan, no voice and don't plan on going any higher due to A) 1TB Data Cap and B)Upload tops out at 20Mbps in my area. That might change a year from now when I move, so should I buy a 'faster' modem now, or just a cheap/refurbished stopgap for now?

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


EconOutlines posted:

Looking for Comcast modem recommendations from the approved list for a 100/5 connection.



I'm surprised I managed to get by for 3.5 years without getting charged, so I won't complain. I'm currently on a 100/5 plan, no voice and don't plan on going any higher due to A) 1TB Data Cap and B)Upload tops out at 20Mbps in my area. That might change a year from now when I move, so should I buy a 'faster' modem now, or just a cheap/refurbished stopgap for now?
I'm on a 75/10 plan and got a lightly used Surfboard 6183 for $35 off Craigslist. You should be able to find a 16x4 modem for $40 or less.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

EconOutlines posted:

Looking for Comcast modem recommendations from the approved list for a 100/5 connection.



I'm surprised I managed to get by for 3.5 years without getting charged, so I won't complain. I'm currently on a 100/5 plan, no voice and don't plan on going any higher due to A) 1TB Data Cap and B)Upload tops out at 20Mbps in my area. That might change a year from now when I move, so should I buy a 'faster' modem now, or just a cheap/refurbished stopgap for now?

A mistake?

Or a stealth bill increase?

EconOutlines
Jul 3, 2004

Platystemon posted:

A mistake?

Or a stealth bill increase?

Mistake...it was their modem that was provided, just never added to my account (probably by the tech that installed it). I'm guessing during an audit, they found that out via MAC address or some other way. No idea, since I don't know anyone that works for them.

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

Just bought a new house that is both larger and has the internet coax in one corner of the house in the master bedroom. The far corner of the house is my office, but there is already an Ethernet line between the two rooms.

So I have my modem/router in the bedroom, and its also plugged into the Ethernet line to the office. My question is what I put in the office to get both wifi to that side of the house and Ethernet to 4 computers.

From the OP it looks like I want these two:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015PR20GY/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A121WN6/

Is this the right way to do things or am I reading wrong? Will I be able to have one wifi login for the whole house and devices will use whichever is better?

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017
@xenoborg, you are going to need something to run the ubiquiti unifi controller software. You can use a Linux vm on your nas, a spare server, a raspberry pi or the ubiquiti cloudkey(you could use a pc/mac and turn on the controller software on when you need to make changes but you lose most of the reporting features so I don't advise doing so).

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

SlowBloke posted:

@xenoborg, you are going to need something to run the ubiquiti unifi controller software. You can use a Linux vm on your nas, a spare server, a raspberry pi or the ubiquiti cloudkey(you could use a pc/mac and turn on the controller software on when you need to make changes but you lose most of the reporting features so I don't advise doing so).

This is basically Greek to me. I just want to get a thing in my office that will take the Ethernet cable from my modem and do a wifi and few more Ethernet cables to computers.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Xenoborg posted:

This is basically Greek to me. I just want to get a thing in my office that will take the Ethernet cable from my modem and do a wifi and few more Ethernet cables to computers.

If my previous post is imperscrutabile to you, add a ubiquiti cloudkey to your shopping list, it's the simplest way to use/deploy a ubiquiti access point.

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer
You don't have to run the Ubiquiti Unifi controller 24/7, unless you want very specific features that most people don't care about. You can install it, run it once on your PC, configure the AP, then uninstall it and never think about it again unless you want to change the settings on your AP.

In fact, with the AP, you can technically do all the configuration most users want (SSID and password) through a cell phone app, and never run the Unifi controller software at all.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubnt.easyunifi&hl=en

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/unifi/id1057750338?mt=8

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

n0tqu1tesane posted:

You don't have to run the Ubiquiti Unifi controller 24/7, unless you want very specific features that most people don't care about. You can install it, run it once on your PC, configure the AP, then uninstall it and never think about it again unless you want to change the settings on your AP.

In fact, with the AP, you can technically do all the configuration most users want (SSID and password) through a cell phone app, and never run the Unifi controller software at all.

Ok that sounds good, I can follow all the documentation that comes with them, and don't mind another background program, it I just want to make sure that:
1) These two things are the proper things I need to buy to get what I wanted to connect
2) They will show up as one wifi

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

Xenoborg posted:

Ok that sounds good, I can follow all the documentation that comes with them, and don't mind another background program, it I just want to make sure that:
1) These two things are the proper things I need to buy to get what I wanted to connect
2) They will show up as one wifi

1) Yes.

2) Maybe. I've had issues with devices using different wireless technologies (one G access point, and one N access point) causing problems even when on the same SSID and key. If you want it to be even more foolproof, buy a second Ubiquiti AP, place it next to your current modem/router, and disable the wireless on your modem/router.

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

n0tqu1tesane posted:

1) Yes.

2) Maybe. I've had issues with devices using different wireless technologies (one G access point, and one N access point) causing problems even when on the same SSID and key. If you want it to be even more foolproof, buy a second Ubiquiti AP, place it next to your current modem/router, and disable the wireless on your modem/router.

OK I'll try that if mixing doesn't work well. Both the current modem and new AP are AC though.

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer
Shouldn't be a huge problem then. Just make sure that your SSID and key on both are exactly the same.

Also, note that switching between access points is mostly dependent on the client, and not the access point, if you end up having problems with a device that's insisting it stay connected to the AP on the other side of the house.

8 Ball
Nov 27, 2010

My hands are all messed up so you better post, brother.
I'm looking for a USB wifi dongle for my desktop as I'm no longer able to use my powerline adaptors, can anyone recommend a good/cheap one or are they all much of a muchness? Any standout brands?

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Just started scanning the thread because I want to do a proper range extension of my netgear R7000 AC1900. It looks like the Ubiquiti AC-lite is the way to go from a few posts up.

Just seeing if I miss anything, my setup would be:

HiTron cable modem with wireless/routing disabled -> wan port of R7000 -> lan port -> cat5e/6 across the basement to ubiquiti poe inejctor -> poe to ubiquiti

And then I would just need the iphone app to configure the AP, and the 5GHz and 2.5GHz networks should seamlessly connect across with the same SSID and WPA2 password?

I was looking at the Netgear AC1900 range extender but the ubiquiti seems like a cheaper option. Especially since I don't need to wireless bridge it, I can run a cable.

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

priznat posted:

Just started scanning the thread because I want to do a proper range extension of my netgear R7000 AC1900. It looks like the Ubiquiti AC-lite is the way to go from a few posts up.

Just seeing if I miss anything, my setup would be:

HiTron cable modem with wireless/routing disabled -> wan port of R7000 -> lan port -> cat5e/6 across the basement to ubiquiti poe inejctor -> poe to ubiquiti

Yep. You can technically put the POE injector wherever you want it between the LAN port and the AP, so if it's more convenient to have it next to your existing router, put it there. That way you aren't as limited in where you place your AP.


priznat posted:

And then I would just need the iphone app to configure the AP, and the 5GHz and 2.5GHz networks should seamlessly connect across with the same SSID and WPA2 password?

Yes, it SHOULD work. Make sure that all the encryption settings are set exactly the same across the two.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Nice, thanks! I will order that AC-lite ASAP.

Megasabin
Sep 9, 2003

I get half!!
I just moved to a 3F home that has FIOS. I plan to purchase my own router. The OP talks highly about the 3 Ubiquiti models, but honestly I'm sort of turned off by the way the OP describes them as low user friendliness, and the lack of wifi. Are their other suggestions for large house/FIOS that don't have those issues? Price doesn't matter.

Photex
Apr 6, 2009




Megasabin posted:

I just moved to a 3F home that has FIOS. I plan to purchase my own router. The OP talks highly about the 3 Ubiquiti models, but honestly I'm sort of turned off by the way the OP describes them as low user friendliness, and the lack of wifi. Are their other suggestions for large house/FIOS that don't have those issues? Price doesn't matter.

You could go AmpliFi which is Ubiquiti's consumer mesh system if you don't want/need hardwire on every floor

Megasabin
Sep 9, 2003

I get half!!
Do the TP link routers work fine with FIOS? They are highly recommended by the OP, and probably would be more speed in terms of user friendliness and built in wiFi.

I notice the OP lists them under apartment or small home. Would upgrading to the AC5000 series be better for a larger home?

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
I went out to diagnose an internet connection/ computer that was continually displaying OOPS, PROBLEM OCCURED loading webpages. Turns out the goddamn ISP is double NATing their connections AND rotating public IPs every 30 seconds or so. WTF?!

ARRG! Worthless ISP.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Megasabin posted:

Do the TP link routers work fine with FIOS? They are highly recommended by the OP, and probably would be more speed in terms of user friendliness and built in wiFi.

I notice the OP lists them under apartment or small home. Would upgrading to the AC5000 series be better for a larger home?

FIOS has its own modem/router that you will need if you have their tv service because it provides data to the set top boxes over MoCA (networking over coaxial cable). You can request FIOS to instead use your router by activating the ethernet port on the ONT (Optical Network Terminal, the big plastic box in your basement/wiring closet that the fiber terminates in), but then if you still want TV you have to make sure the FIOS router is then installed behind your router so it can provide data to the set top boxes.

If you're not using FIOS TV then you can ignore this.

My current setup is to actually use the FIOS router, but I disabled the wifi and setup a couple of ubiquiti unifi wireless access points to handle the wifi coverage. I've been lucky that the FIOS router is actually very stable and stays up for months at a time. Not everyone has had the same experience.

Megasabin
Sep 9, 2003

I get half!!

Rexxed posted:

FIOS has its own modem/router that you will need if you have their tv service because it provides data to the set top boxes over MoCA (networking over coaxial cable). You can request FIOS to instead use your router by activating the ethernet port on the ONT (Optical Network Terminal, the big plastic box in your basement/wiring closet that the fiber terminates in), but then if you still want TV you have to make sure the FIOS router is then installed behind your router so it can provide data to the set top boxes.

If you're not using FIOS TV then you can ignore this.

My current setup is to actually use the FIOS router, but I disabled the wifi and setup a couple of ubiquiti unifi wireless access points to handle the wifi coverage. I've been lucky that the FIOS router is actually very stable and stays up for months at a time. Not everyone has had the same experience.

I'm using FIOS internet only. But thanks for the information. It's good to know.

ErikTheRed
Mar 12, 2007

My name is Deckard Cain and I've come on out to greet ya, so sit your ass and listen or I'm gonna have to beat ya.
I'm fed up with random issues I've been having with my Archer C7 and want to figure out some possible alternatives. I had it running dd-wrt for a while which mostly worked fine, but I recently switched back to stock firmware so I could use the hardware NAT. The stock firmware keeps having weird issues: speed degradation, DNS totally stopped working this morning, etc. I don't really want to go back to dd-wrt either since they only have beta builds for the C7 and sometimes it's hard to know which is a good/stable one.

One option I'd be interested in is rolling my own router using pfSense or Ubuntu or something similar, and reusing the Archer C7 as just a WAP (I already have a few switches for wired as well). What would be good hardware to use for this? I've seen the industrial/mini pcs on AliExpress recommended before, but there's a ton of different variants on there so I'm not sure which is the best option there (or if something else entirely is a better choice). My current internet connection is 100/20 but I'd like to have some room to jump up to higher speeds in the future.

Or should I not bother with this and just go with something like the Ubiquiti Unify stuff?

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
I wish I could help you because my C7 started to get flaky after about a year using DDWRT and stock firmware, so I switched back to my Apple Airport Express.

Megasabin
Sep 9, 2003

I get half!!
After reading some more, a triband smart router seems appealing given that I will probably have 15-20 devices myself, and more with guests. My understanding is that a triband smart router will automatically assign a device to the highest maximum speed it can take advantage of. Essentially set it and forget it in terms of management. I've heard people say there can be problems if your neighboors are also heavy wireless internet users. Can anyone explain this issue or any other potential disadvantages of this route to me?

On the flip side can anyone link me to or explain the advantages and disadvantages of a Ubiquiti setup compared to a triband smart router? How much of a learning investment is it to run the Ubiquiti setup?

Megasabin fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Sep 14, 2017

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Megasabin posted:

After reading some more, a triband smart router seems appealing given that I will probably have 15-20 devices myself, and more with guests. My understanding is that a triband smart router will automatically assign a device to the highest maximum speed it can take advantage of. Essentially set it and forget it in terms of management. I've heard people say there can be problems if your neighboors are also heavy wireless internet users. Can anyone explain this issue or any other potential disadvantages of this route to me?

On the flip side can anyone link me to or explain the advantages and disadvantages of a Ubiquiti setup compared to a triband smart router? How much of a learning investment is it to run the Ubiquiti setup?

Any wireless access point will negotiate the highest speed protocol. Tri-band is basically marketing wank for having one 2.4Ghz antenna and two 5Ghz ones. The advantage there is to let different devices attach to different 5Ghz channels providing more potential bandwidth for each device since they won't be talking over each other. Each device will be no faster, but they won't interfere if they're using different 5Ghz channels. Smart router is just a nonsense term like smart phone. There's not that many protocols and most devices made in the last 10 years are going to support N or AC which are both fine to use together. I have 50+ devices on my Ubiquiti APs and they're very solid. Configuring the access points means plugging them into the network and loading up the unifi controller software and changing the settings you want. For me, I have them both with the same SSID and passphrase so devices can connect to either one. I separated out the 5Ghz network into a separate SSID so only some devices are connecting to it (this is optional). For the 2.4Ghz, I put the WAPs on different channels. Since I have one near each end of the house I made sure they were different channels than what the neighbors were using on those sides (for 2.4Ghz you generally use channels 1, 6, and 11 to avoid overlap). Setting up the ubiquiti access points isn't any harder than configuring your normal router's wireless security, it's just separated into its own thing. They have fewer options than routers since they don't do a lot of things routers do; they just provide wireless.

I keep the Unifi software running in a Virtual Machine. You don't have to do this after they're configured unless you've got some of the advanced features like a guest network operating. You can also get the Unifi Cloud Key for $75 and it will act as the server as well. Here's a screenshot of my statistics page, as you can see, I push a lot of data through one of my Unifi WAPs to a lot of devices:


The advantage of a Ubiquiti setup is just that it's very solid once it's configured and they have a hardware ecosystem that has good WAPs, decent routers, and optionally the cloud key and security gateway if you want them. Being able to add more wireless access points to areas you find you have a weak signal in is beneficial. That said, you do need to run a network cable (or powerline networking, etc) to the location for each WAP. If you don't want to do that, the mesh networking products are going to be a good idea. Those use one wireless radio in the unit to talk to the other WAPs in the mesh network to move data back to the wired device that provides network connectivity. It's handy if you don't want to run wires but the mesh network packages cost a little bit more up front.

Lolcano Eruption
Oct 29, 2007
Volcano of LOL.

8 Ball posted:

I'm looking for a USB wifi dongle for my desktop as I'm no longer able to use my powerline adaptors, can anyone recommend a good/cheap one or are they all much of a muchness? Any standout brands?

Don't do USB. They aren't stable. Get an internal card from Intel or with an Intel chip.

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

I had a usb dongle and it sucked. I had a wifi card which came with the mobo and it sucked. I bought a Gigabyte wifi card with Intel chip and it doesn't suck. So buy Intel.

Heffer
May 1, 2003

Armacham posted:

I wish I could help you because my C7 started to get flaky after about a year using DDWRT and stock firmware, so I switched back to my Apple Airport Express.

I'm about to start diagnosing my sisters C7 tonight. I don't even get what happens that causes routers to suddenly start sucking. Parts overheating after a long period of time?

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Heffer posted:

I'm about to start diagnosing my sisters C7 tonight. I don't even get what happens that causes routers to suddenly start sucking. Parts overheating after a long period of time?

Could be substandard parts like capacitors. Could also be just corrupted firmware. Might be worth it to set to stock settings and see if anything changes.

astral
Apr 26, 2004

ErikTheRed posted:

I'm fed up with random issues I've been having with my Archer C7 and want to figure out some possible alternatives. I had it running dd-wrt for a while which mostly worked fine, but I recently switched back to stock firmware so I could use the hardware NAT. The stock firmware keeps having weird issues: speed degradation, DNS totally stopped working this morning, etc. I don't really want to go back to dd-wrt either since they only have beta builds for the C7 and sometimes it's hard to know which is a good/stable one.

One option I'd be interested in is rolling my own router using pfSense or Ubuntu or something similar, and reusing the Archer C7 as just a WAP (I already have a few switches for wired as well). What would be good hardware to use for this? I've seen the industrial/mini pcs on AliExpress recommended before, but there's a ton of different variants on there so I'm not sure which is the best option there (or if something else entirely is a better choice). My current internet connection is 100/20 but I'd like to have some room to jump up to higher speeds in the future.

Or should I not bother with this and just go with something like the Ubiquiti Unify stuff?

Did you wipe the NVRAM aka reset to factory settings after switching to the stock firmware?

ErikTheRed
Mar 12, 2007

My name is Deckard Cain and I've come on out to greet ya, so sit your ass and listen or I'm gonna have to beat ya.

astral posted:

Did you wipe the NVRAM aka reset to factory settings after switching to the stock firmware?

I can't remember if I did it immediately after reverting, but I did it this morning after I ran into the weird DNS issues. Seems to be doing okay for the moment.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

This is technically a modem question but: I just noticed I was a dumbass who ignored the instructions that came with my router, it has a rj41 data jack and I've been using a rj11 cord.

Could this be contributing to some of my dropout issues? (I'll be fixing it either way.)

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Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Any recommended powerline adapters?

Is D-Link Powerline AV2 2000 Starter Kit DHP-701AV stable and good? Anything better? Lets say I'm willing to spend up to £150.

Note, I do not want wifi or routing in it (or at least I need to be able to turn them off).

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