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Kassad posted:That's not the extenuating circumstance you seem to think it is well it means expecting private deregulated housing markets to do the job of social housing is dumb
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blowfish posted:I'll let you in on a big secret: landlords are actually in it for the profits, not because they like providing the highest quality accomodation at the lowest possible price Oh well if unscrupulous behavior is profitable that's okay then
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VitalSigns posted:Oh well if unscrupulous behavior is profitable that's okay then 
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https://twitter.com/leLab_E1/status/906133096944328705 He's not taking his falling approval rating very well. Edit: in English. Kassad fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Sep 9, 2017 |
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Maybe he should try not being total poo poo if he's so pissy about it?
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No, but you see, we got it all wrong. It's that complex thought again. https://twitter.com/fxbourmaud/status/906182566759321605 He was minister of the economy a year ago? Don't be a cynic, you lazy bum.
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^^^Actually the faineants were the one loving up the post Irma effort. Also can you guess who said that it was the previous gov? Castaner, aka a former PS and a member of said goverments during the previous 15 years. Ahahaha jesus after that new york time OP calling Macron a "yet another failed french president", Castaner is losing his loving mind calling the author a nazi. The people surrounding Macron are the worst, i swear. How did he manage to get a crew worse than Sarkozy, i swear? Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Sep 10, 2017 |
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Good morning, French goons! Don't forget that you're on strike today, and that you're marching along with hundreds of thousands (MILLIONS) of people against this shitass government's shitass labor reform! Let'em know we're there and we're not happy about what they're doing!
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Good morning, French goons! Don't forget that you're on strike today, and that you're marching along with hundreds of thousands (MILLIONS) of people against this shitass government's shitass labor reform! Let'em know we're there and we're not happy about what they're doing! Give em hell, comrades
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I will not be working and NEITHER SHOULD YOU.
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I live in North America, mais j'ai glandé toute la journée quand même afin de soutenir mes confrères français... aussi parce que je suis flemmard.
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JustJeff88 posted:I live in North America, mais j'ai glandé toute la journée quand même afin de soutenir mes confrères français... aussi parce que je suis flemmard. Solidarité
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HookShot posted:This is a fantastic idea and I will be doing it tomorrow as well. Liberté, egalité, fraternité, solidarité... chardonnay?
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JustJeff88 posted:Liberté, egalité, fraternité, solidarité... jours ferriers Fixed it for you.
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Joyeuse grève générale, fil de discussion français! Any of you in the streets today? (Flowers, probably?)
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Waiting for the obligatory "Police noted attendance of about 150 protesters while the CGT noted 3 Trillion participants"
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Toplowtech posted:^^^Actually the faineants were the one loving up the post Irma effort. Also can you guess who said that it was the previous gov? Castaner, aka a former PS and a member of said goverments during the previous 15 years. Ego trip?
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The base, including regional leaders, is certainly up for it (and I'm guessing many of them will be striking regardless). Berger already spoke in favour of the 2016 Loi travail so I'm not surprised he's turning a little yellow. Still, disappointing to see Mailly selling out as well. lost in postation fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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lost in postation posted:Joyeuse grève générale, fil de discussion français! Any of you in the streets today? (Flowers, probably?) To be honest, the reason why I'm not working today is not because I'm on strike, but because I'm on vacation overseas. I'm actually coming home today, but 24 hours too late to attend the demonstration. But I'm proud to say that I haven't worked a minute in the past five weeks.
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Also gently caress Mailly, and gently caress FO Finances for their mealy-mouthed communiqué in which they say they are really really against the reform and they agree with the latest statement from the board in opposition to the reform, but they fall short of calling for a strike and demonstration. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna leave them for this.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Also gently caress Mailly, and gently caress FO Finances for their mealy-mouthed communiqué in which they say they are really really against the reform and they agree with the latest statement from the board in opposition to the reform, but they fall short of calling for a strike and demonstration. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna leave them for this. You should leave them. Unions that fail in their duty to stand in solidarity with the rest of the working classes are destructive to the whole movement and need to go away permanently. You can and should criticise if you need to but failure in solidarity cannot and must not be tolerated, especially in the kind of crisis we find ourselves in today.
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So last time France had these demonstrations against the government trying to destroy labor, Hollande managed to ram through some stuff anyway using some obscure law right? Is there anything that can stop Macron from doing it, demonstrations or no?
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He could possibly use an executive order, the famous 49-3 (I think?)
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It could go either way. He's got the vast majority of the assembly technically with him but his party is very young and probably pretty lovely at voting discipline. MPs might decide that the project is not worth burning their credibility with their constituents over, in which case we would have a repeat of last time and the law might pass partially under dubious circumstances or after months/years of assembly-senate back-and-forth. On the other hand, if the party falls in line, there's not much we can do: he's got an incomparably larger voting bloc than last time and can easily get a majority with EM people alone. The whole difficulty last time was the division within the socialist party and the hostility of even the moderate right. Now that the former is a non-entity and the latter has largely joined ranks with EM, people are going to have a much tougher time putting a dent in the reform, unfortunately. lost in postation fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Okay, so here's what happened with the El Khomri labor law: The law made enough people angry that some Parti Socialiste députés decided they would vote against it. In order to prevent the bill from failing thanks to an unholy alliance of the right, the PS dissidents and the far-left, the government decided to resort to a constitutional article that ends discussion on a bill and automatically passes it unless a motion of no-confidence is introduced and succeeds, toppling the government. For obvious reasons (cowardice), the PS dissidents got cold feet and the bill became law. In this instance, the situation is totally different. Usually, bills are introduced by the government, debated and modified by Parliament, and then adopted by Parliament. But in certain circumstances, when the subject is especially technical for example, the government may ask Parliament for an authorization to fully write a law and pass it without parliamentary involvement - this is called an "ordonnance". The government goes in front of Parliament, asks them to vote in favor of delegating their legislative power within a certain scope, writes the bill, sends it back to Parliament when it's over, and then the President signs the bill into law. Should Parliament reject the fully formed bill, it is passed anyway, but as a décret (decree, which can be overturned in the courts, especially if it turns out to be an overreach of regulatory power - French administrative law is kinda hard to navigate, sorry). Back in... June, or July, I forget, Parliament delegated its legislative power and allowed the government to write its ordonnances modifying the Code of Labor and some other stuff. Given that the freshly elected LREM députés are a bunch of lazy yes-men and generally incompetent, they jumped on the occasion to not get headaches studying labor law and blindly agreed. Also, their whip has proven to be quite efficient so far. Now the text of the ordonnances has been published, it is as bad as the negotiations with unions let us imagine if not worse, and a demonstration is currently underway. There's literally nothing to expect, because I can't see those liberal extremists backing off in the face of a mere couple days of protest. TL;DR Macron is a poo poo and his Prime Minister a sinister gently caress
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Just saw the CGT march in Paris on my way to a holiday (Picked a bad day for it). Looked like a decent March, but those nice red flares stopped me getting the full show.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Okay, so here's what happened with the El Khomri labor law: What the gently caress... Isn't that basically an invitation for the government to hold itself hostage to pass laws the ministers all want to pass? "Pass this law or we end trhe motherfucking council of ministers bithc!"
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lollontee posted:What the gently caress... Isn't that basically an invitation for the government to hold itself hostage to pass laws the ministers all want to pass? "Pass this law or we end trhe motherfucking council of ministers bithc!" Many systems have a mechanism like this, including every sovereign parliament I know of
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Back in... June, or July, I forget The loi d'habilitation was in late July iirc, bravely passed in the middle of most people's holidays.
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https://twitter.com/akraland/status/907651076144422913 Only missing the shield.
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http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/politique/20170912.OBS4552/logement-le-gouvernement-envisagerait-de-baisser-les-apl-de-50-a-60-euros.html posted:en contraignant les bailleurs sociaux à réduire d'autant leurs loyers
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They're managing rent-controlled housing, so presumably the government can make them lower their rents. It's going to cripple their income but who cares about such details? Also: you can be renting regular housing and get those housing benefits. No way in hell those rents are going down.
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V. Illych L. posted:Many systems have a mechanism like this, including every sovereign parliament I know of Yeah, and they're not supposed to be used except during times of emergency.
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