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I still prefer this one to II, marginally. II was pretty much "hastily churned-out sequel that didn't understand the appeal of the original enough to supplement it or stand out in its own right" before that became an adventure game standard. As much as people tend to complain about certain puzzles in V, I maintain that they're all more sensible than bridle-snake, and the sheer ridiculousness of "there are just three doors in this screen that you have to open in order, and reading them makes random things happen that get you the keys" is beyond almost anything else in the series, at least until we get to VII. I'm not going to argue that V isn't pretty bad in a lot of ways, but I think "worst by a wide margin" is a gross exaggeration. I also don't think it's possible to complete this game with fewer than the full 260 points. If it is, I'll be interested to see how.
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DoubleNegative posted:
Graham is gonna regret not telling Cedric to never open his mouth ever again.
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Sep 11, 2017 18:47
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: Ooooh t was the powerful and evil wizard Mordack who did it. Ooooh I just happened to be visiting with an oooold friend when I saw him materialize out of thin air. Thank goodness he didn't notice ME!
: Well don't stop now, go on!
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You can see in the intro that magical fruit does good work or Graham's been doing a lot of upper body days since recovering. Cedric is loving awful and really, I think we'd all be fine if you didn't transcribe every single one of his stupid elongated vowels, but if you feel it's necessary I guess nobody can stop you 
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Sep 11, 2017 18:57
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Psion posted:Cedric is loving awful and really, I think we'd all be fine if you didn't transcribe every single one of his stupid elongated vowels, but if you feel it's necessary I guess nobody can stop you The pain must be shared.
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Sep 11, 2017 19:12
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This was the first game I even played on a computer at home, and I have literally no memory of Cedric. Traumatic repression perhaps
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Sep 11, 2017 19:34
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Oh my god, Cedric gives Graham the fingerguns  I'm all in for this trainwreck, let's go!
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Sep 11, 2017 19:40
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Cedric should :frogooooout: I remember this game from another LP years ago. All those years and I can still hear Cedric's horrendous voice whenever Graham died.
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Sep 11, 2017 20:28
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loving Cedric. I think it's close to ten or fifteen years since I last touched this game but I can still hear Cedric's voice in my head. Someone bring the drill, I think I need some serious trepanning to fix this.
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Sep 11, 2017 21:05
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"Ok, Cedric, let's go back to Daventry!" "Oooooooooh Graham, why?" "Well, I'm King. They might not have a palace, but they can still have a king. And anyway, is Mordack in Serenia?" "Nooooo, we hoooope nooooot. Oooops, wrooooong ooooo. Sooooood it." "Is there anything or anyone else in Serenia that can help with Mordack?" "Noooo.." "Then why would I hang around here instead of investigating where Mordack acted, and where I am THE FRICKING KING?" "Oooooo.. I ran out of fairy dust." "So when all of the royal family have been kidnapped, your great idea was to take the one remaining member of the royal family and isolate him miles away?" "Oooommmmm.." "You work for bloody Mordack don't you."
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Sep 11, 2017 21:46
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Ah, King's Quest V. My first King's Quest game. The narrator (Art Lewicki, who's done King's Quest V, and.... nothing else, apparently?) is a little dull at some points, but he does a pretty decent job. For everyone complaining about Cedric's voice acting, I'm going to give a bit of prophecy and warning here: Cedric is not the worst voice acting in KQ5. You'll know it when you hear it.
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Sep 11, 2017 21:50
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there's honestly a lot worst: most of the voice actors are Sierra employees, VI on the other hand had professionals like Tony Jay, just Cedric's the one you hear the most often and has a really bad tic.
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Sep 11, 2017 22:00
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I understand the Cedric hate, but also think his design is really cute. He's an owl with a vest! And a monocle! Really, he should've been voiced by... I dunno, Morgan Freeman? He could probably pull off the wise owl thing well if he ditched the verbal tic.
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Sep 11, 2017 22:15
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DoubleNegative posted:
headcanon - unlike bananaman's actual pet, his wand was a nice little wand at heart that disliked working for an evil wizard and was desperate for a friendly owner.
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Sep 11, 2017 22:21
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: Here's my old wand. I don't even know if it works anymore. Most of its power may be gone. You should know that wands are like pets. They've got to get to know you before they'll work for you. Just treat it with care and respect and hopefully it will do something for you.
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Pieuvre posted:I understand the Cedric hate, but also think his design is really cute. He's an owl with a vest! And a monocle! Well, if we're actually giving 1990 Sierra a budget and a clue for voice actors, I vote Malcolm McDowell.
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Sep 11, 2017 22:38
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Oh I remember this game. I remember losing my temper and never finishing it because Cedric was so annoying. At last, I can finally know how this game ends without going through the personal torment of Cedric! Thanks for that, and I'm sorry for your suffering.
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gegi posted:headcanon - unlike bananaman's actual pet, his wand was a nice little wand at heart that disliked working for an evil wizard and was desperate for a friendly owner. I hold the opinion that this wand is an older model before they patched out the moodiness out the subsequent wands.
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Sep 11, 2017 22:57
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Today I learned that Cedric's voice actor was the guy who wrote the old "I attack the Gazebo" D&D story. Also he was lead programmer on Conquests of the Longbow, which I remember being pretty good.
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Sep 11, 2017 23:38
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Yeeesssssss.... YES!!!!! Share the CEDRIC pain, in every terrible detail!! SHARE IT!! 
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Explosions posted:Today I learned that Cedric's voice actor was the guy who wrote the old "I attack the Gazebo" D&D story. Yeah, as the case in those days most of the voice actors were employees. But neat trivia on the Gazebo story
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Sep 12, 2017 00:15
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"Loook OUT, GraHAM! A gaazebooooo!"
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Sep 12, 2017 00:39
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i'm the only person in the known universe who doesn't hate cedric's voice acting i admit this openly; it is my burden to bear   
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Sep 12, 2017 01:19
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someone awful. posted:i'm the only person in the known universe who doesn't hate cedric's voice acting Nah, I don't hate his voice acting either really. I mean, I know it's not good but I have a fairly high tolerance. If anything I find it to be so-bad-it's-funny rather than anything else. I do find amusement on how other's hate his voice though. No, I hate him because he Will most of the time not give you warnings till AFTER you're hosed Also, a emote?Oh yes
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Sep 12, 2017 01:42
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Explosions posted:Today I learned that Cedric's voice actor was the guy who wrote the old "I attack the Gazebo" D&D story. Speaking of, if you hadn't heard: Conquests of Camelot and Conquests of the Longbow are available on GOG for $6 each.
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Sep 12, 2017 01:43
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Ah yes, this game finally. The first one I played, and the one which my mom played where I could watch. I had access to all of her notes and maps so it was much easier for me than most people playing it for the first time. Cedric's voice wasn't much a bother and Graham's fit him perfectly to my mind.
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Sep 12, 2017 01:48
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grandalt posted:Graham's fit him perfectly to my mind. Graham's voice was pretty good considering the guy is a programmer. I was glad that he was cool enough to reprise the voice for the fan-remakes.
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Sep 12, 2017 02:08
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This game was bad but I gave it a pass in my youth because it was just so beautiful. The art, music, everything looked and felt really advanced for the time. Around the time I was playing this, my other favorite game was the original Final Fantasy on the NES, and there's a pretty stark difference in the technology there. (Of course I didn't know that FFI was already three years old at the time.) So yes, I loved this game because it was pretty. And the bullshit puzzles... well... those were nothing a quick call to the Sierra hint line couldn't fix! 
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Sep 12, 2017 03:15
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mauman posted:Graham's voice was pretty good considering the guy is a programmer. That got me thinking... are there any complete fan-remakes out there apart from the lovely AGDI ones? I saw a bunch of KQ4 remakes that started but died quickly, which was a shame. Speaking of KQ4, I know that AGDI didn't remake because it wasn't financially viable, but I would have gladly paid for it if they had been allowed to do so. Please note that I am aware that they cannot sell an IP someone else owns for profit.
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Man, I adored KQ5 as a kid. This is entirely because I had the big old walkthrough/narrative retelling guide (sitting on the bookshelf next to me, as a matter of fact) and didn't even attempt solving the puzzles on my own. I look forward to this nostalgia bomb!
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Cedric also aside from his verbal tic - stresses the wrong syllables on some words to facilitate the psuedo-hooting. And I have to agree Graham's va is really drat good for someone that isn't a professional and working with subpar recording equipment.
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So I guess whichever programmer they gave the Cedric hat to just kind of... took a bad idea and never stopped running because there was nobody to say stop?
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or Roberta Williams thought it was hilarious and you can't say no to the boss lady.
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JustJeff88 posted:That got me thinking... are there any complete fan-remakes out there apart from the lovely AGDI ones? I saw a bunch of KQ4 remakes that started but died quickly, which was a shame. There is, in fact, still a KQ4 remake in the works by UnicornTales. They were still putting out updates as of July this year, so I wouldn't call it dead yet, but I wouldn't hold your breath on it being done anytime soon. Also, CrystalShard put out a remake of KQ3 before AGDI did, and many people regard it to be better since (while it doesn't look as pretty as AGDI's) didn't futz with the story all that much. Outside of that I can't think of any other KQ remakes. mauman fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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So this is the only King's Quest game I ever played, though not very far past this point. My parents picked up the CD version from a bargain bin for $5 or so around 1993-4, I grew up with the Mac and our concept of adventure games was defined by stuff like Myst so the whole affair felt kind of strange and primitive already by then. (In spite of the game having some very nice hand-painted backgrounds in hindsight.) At a young and impressionable age my brother and I bounced pretty hard off of the beginning section of the game with Cedric talking so much in his annoying voice and the annoying town music, and never really bothering with the rest of the game. But I fondly recall that we would have a laugh every so often doing bad Cedric voices acting out some really poorly remembered version of the opening cutscene. I'm not really a fan of the Sierra tradition of adventure games in general, and given the reputation the game seems to have here in the thread and seeing some of the silly bullshit deaths in the Retsupurae (?) playthrough, I'm not sure how much I am missing here. The only other Sierra game we played was Castle of Dr. Brain, which we loved, possibly since it was an edutainment game and didn't come from the "try the old inventory, something's gotta work" school of puzzle design.
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I don't have a problem with Cedric. In fact, I used his name for my first character in every Dark Souls game.  Although some might argue that's a proper punishment, given how people tend to fare while learning those games...
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Sep 12, 2017 08:40
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I first played this one with the 16 color floppy version, it looked like crap (at least it was better than the nes version) but I managed to dodge the voice 'acting'.
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Xander77 posted:Also, it's a shame that the voice version doesn't have an option to have voice AND text. The option was there for later titles, but I think it's fairly obvious it's good to have both even if this is the first voiced game your company produced. IIRC you could have both in 6, but it was voice-only in 7.
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Sep 12, 2017 10:20
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i like cedric
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So if we're in Serenia, does that mean King's Quest takes place in the same world as Wizard and the Princess (from back when Sierra was doing text adventures)?
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According to Wikipedia, yes, it does. And the geography between the two games is different because The Wizard did it. "There is a scorpion behind the rock."
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