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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Holyshoot posted:

ahh okay good to know. I want to make it my side game in between wow sessions so I won't be poop socking it by any means. Just looking for a shooter/gear up game I can hop into a few hours a week and make some progress. Tried that with warframe but I go back to it now after 4 months of not playing and I have no clue what to do.

Its literally diablo but with guns in FPS perspective. Think Diablo. You hop in an adventure session, kill some bosses, get some better loot, compare the loot and tweak your build, and then repeat. Its exactly like the game flow of Diablo only from FPS perspective.

Diablo up to max level is just learning how to play the game. At max level you stop grinding levels and start looking for good loot. That's where things open up and actually get fun, instead of just leading you around by the nose saying "do this, do that". Destiny is exactly the same. The narrative where it tells you what to do is... pretty bad. WAY worse than Halo. Do not expect a Halo storyline.

Buuuuut it has RPG elements which make the game infinitely more replayable than Halo. This isn't like Halo where you beat the campaign and then go "uhhh so pvp or do co-op again?". You will never have all of the loot in the game, even if you poopsock 24/7. You always have new toys to go try to collect.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Skoll posted:

I will never, and saying this as someone whos played MMOs as early as the late 90s, understand the power levelling mentality. Why the gently caress would you want to speed through the entire game like that and rob yourself of the enjoyment of the content? Seems counterproductive just to be able to brag you hit max level first.

It makes sense for games like WoW where endgame is a completely different beast from leveling, and many find the grind to be boring and lonely where end-game raiding is super exciting and fun and actually involves other people, which the "mmo" thing is supposed to be all about.

But it depends upon the game. Skipping levels in Diablo is kinda silly since it doesn't take long. Skipping levels in Everquest is dumb because that's the whole point of the game. But for some games, where levels act as a content gate and the game dramatically changes style after max level, I can totally understand it. Especially if you're late to the game and your friends are already max level and you can't participate with them until you are as well.

But poopsocking on day1 to be the first to max level is dumb, yeah.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Uggggh so hyped for the PC release, I can't wait to see how my Crucible ratios differ between M/K and Controller.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

Zaphod42 posted:

Its literally diablo but with guns in FPS perspective. Think Diablo. You hop in an adventure session, kill some bosses, get some better loot, compare the loot and tweak your build, and then repeat. Its exactly like the game flow of Diablo only from FPS perspective.

Diablo up to max level is just learning how to play the game. At max level you stop grinding levels and start looking for good loot. That's where things open up and actually get fun, instead of just leading you around by the nose saying "do this, do that". Destiny is exactly the same. The narrative where it tells you what to do is... pretty bad. WAY worse than Halo. Do not expect a Halo storyline.

Buuuuut it has RPG elements which make the game infinitely more replayable than Halo. This isn't like Halo where you beat the campaign and then go "uhhh so pvp or do co-op again?". You will never have all of the loot in the game, even if you poopsock 24/7. You always have new toys to go try to collect.

sounds good!

Marlow
Jan 11, 2007

Foreign dokaebi

Zaphod42 posted:

Its literally diablo but with guns in FPS perspective. Think Diablo. You hop in an adventure session, kill some bosses, get some better loot, compare the loot and tweak your build, and then repeat. Its exactly like the game flow of Diablo only from FPS perspective.

Diablo up to max level is just learning how to play the game. At max level you stop grinding levels and start looking for good loot. That's where things open up and actually get fun, instead of just leading you around by the nose saying "do this, do that". Destiny is exactly the same. The narrative where it tells you what to do is... pretty bad. WAY worse than Halo. Do not expect a Halo storyline.

Buuuuut it has RPG elements which make the game infinitely more replayable than Halo. This isn't like Halo where you beat the campaign and then go "uhhh so pvp or do co-op again?". You will never have all of the loot in the game, even if you poopsock 24/7. You always have new toys to go try to collect.

This game checks so many of my boxes I think I may need to preemptively start seeing a marriage councilor. I won't be joining a goon clan or squad or corp or blob or whatever metric of measurement they're using for this game because my friends group is more insular than those tribes that you see shooting arrows at helicopters on YouTube every now and again. I would like to play with m'goonbros though, so maybe add me on bnet? I'll join the discord and pester people when the game comes out as well.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

It's borderlands without a lot of the problems that plagued the series (bad enemy scaling, very bad loot tables, lots of boring/annoying dialogue, etc) with a lot of those simply being taken care of by shrinking the distance between "level 1 nobody" and "levelcapped poopsocker rolling a bunch of exotics." A smaller rainbow of possible weapons means it's more enjoyable to get exotics (the rarest class of loot) but with the smaller overall table you aren't shooting dorks for a year looking for that 0.0015% rate gun that looks a lot like that other gun you got but this time it adds purple.

The exotics are visually distinctive, often having their own polygon models, particle effects, sounds, etc. They have a hell of a lot more presence when you get them. The story is not nearly as long as BL, but it isn't anything special. You beat the big bad, there's no intrigue or plot twists, you just shoot the bad guys until you get to the big bad, and then you shoot that guy and win. Dialogue isn't as dense as BL, and there are some points where it really shines (Zavala - voiced by Lance Reddick aka Broyles from Fringe/Sylens in HZD, lots of other roles I can't recall atm - saying "Ahh, who among us does not love infrastructure" is delivered hilariously on point) but you aren't getting proper memorable characters like Handsome Jack.

Basically they did a lot of good improvements on fit and finish for the ol' shoot and loot FPS-RPG archetype. If there were real, functional differences between you and the likes of Borderlands or The Division then this may not fully be for you since it's a lot of the same cooperative mission-style shooter gameplay with incremental loot ladders interspersed with big shiny drops.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Waffle House posted:

Uggggh so hyped for the PC release, I can't wait to see how my Crucible ratios differ between M/K and Controller.
According to this stats website I found, my Vanilla Destiny 1 K/D (I quit when the first expansion hit) was 1.09. According to my memory of the 2 days of beta I played, I always hit about a 1.5+ K/D. So as long as you're a die-hard "I loving hate playing first person shooters with a controller" person like me, you can extrapolate based on that data.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 38 hours!
Really bad news:

You will be able to put your K/D in your emblem. For some people this is the equivalent to have the porn name "Mr 11 inches".

You are going to meet people that the first thing you know is their K/D is 2.4

I just can't put into words how bad is this. The boasting, the boasting is sending comicron particles back in time, is like a Big Bang in the future altering events in the past. That bad.

Hamburger Test
Jul 2, 2007

Sure hope this works!
Only play PvP once, get one kill before dying and immediately leave. Be the baddest guy around.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 38 hours!

Hamburger Test posted:

Only play PvP once, get one kill before dying and immediately leave. Be the baddest guy around.

Nah, that will show has "1 KD", I believe.

What could be fun is to find one that track K/D in pve, and use that one to confuse people.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
KD at the end of POE rounds was great because there would always be that one idiot that pulled a 0.5 against dregs

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

moist turtleneck posted:

KD at the end of POE rounds was great because there would always be that one idiot that pulled a 0.5 against dregs

We are sorry that you need to team up with ABGD

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
im not owned

Tahirovic
Feb 25, 2009
Fun Shoe
The real question will be how many people from the PS2 euro goonsquad will play this.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010
I don't know the question but the real answer has to be Tijuana street vendor hotdogs. They're best at 2:30 am.

Murgos fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Sep 12, 2017

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

__________________

Tei posted:

You are going to meet people that the first thing you know is their K/D is 2.4

Literally me. *teabag then salty emote*

Hey Fingercuffs
Nov 29, 2007

Yo baby, you ever had your asshole licked by a fat man in an overcoat?

Waffle House posted:

Uggggh so hyped for the PC release, I can't wait to see how my Crucible ratios differ between M/K and Controller.

I worry that my muscle memory from using a PS4 controller means I'm going to be garbage with M/K for a while.

Also hello everyone in here that I used to hang out with in PS4 Destiny. I plan on getting D2 so I'll see ya'll there.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
there is no way I'm putting a KD thing on me

im loving awful

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Tei posted:

Really bad news:

You will be able to put your K/D in your emblem. For some people this is the equivalent to have the porn name "Mr 11 inches".

You are going to meet people that the first thing you know is their K/D is 2.4

I just can't put into words how bad is this. The boasting, the boasting is sending comicron particles back in time, is like a Big Bang in the future altering events in the past. That bad.

rules

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

eonwe posted:

there is no way I'm putting a KD thing on me

im loving awful

I need people to know exactly how better than me they are at all times

Hey Fingercuffs
Nov 29, 2007

Yo baby, you ever had your asshole licked by a fat man in an overcoat?

eonwe posted:

there is no way I'm putting a KD thing on me

im loving awful

Put it on and give your foes a false sense of security.

Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/8x84kp/destiny-2-included-a-legendary-gauntlet-with-a-white-supremacist-logo?utm_source=wpfbus

Hurray!!

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009
vice is such a loving joke

THESE LETTERS LOOK A MEME! RACISM!!!!111

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
Who knew that playing WoW and using the terminology made you a racist?

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
'kek' isn't the problematic part but rather the fact it's pretty much literally the kekistani flag, but please do not allow context to prevent you from tilting at windmills in your ardent defense of 4chan racists

Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

SpookyLizard posted:

vice is such a loving joke

THESE LETTERS LOOK A MEME! RACISM!!!!111

Vice wasn't the only one to notice

There were goons pointing it out yesterday

Regardless of intention Bungie has acknowledged the similarity and is changing it

Where's the problem?

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Kek emblem removed from game.

PREORDER CANCELLED

Karnegal
Dec 24, 2005

Is it... safe?

A 50S RAYGUN posted:

'kek' isn't the problematic part but rather the fact it's pretty much literally the kekistani flag, but please do not allow context to prevent you from tilting at windmills in your ardent defense of 4chan racists

This 100%. You have to be dense as gently caress to not think that that was intentional on the part of some artist at Bungie (come the gently caress on, it's even green). I'm sure at the corporate level they would never have green lit it if people who had seen it in development recognized what they were doing.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?
They should has snuck goatse in like a proper human being would have

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
I am very upset at this grievous assault on free expression and speech by corpor---

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009
it's almost like people havent picked up on kekistan being a satirical joke or something

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

it's almost like people haven't picked up on a satirical joke becoming a full on racist banner.

el B
Jan 30, 2004
holler.

Marlow posted:

This game checks so many of my boxes I think I may need to preemptively start seeing a marriage councilor. I won't be joining a goon clan or squad or corp or blob or whatever metric of measurement they're using for this game because my friends group is more insular than those tribes that you see shooting arrows at helicopters on YouTube every now and again. I would like to play with m'goonbros though, so maybe add me on bnet? I'll join the discord and pester people when the game comes out as well.



Still, you may as well form a clan with your friends even if it's kept private. You get loot just by accumulating points doing any activity in the game. This can come in handy when you need help getting over a power level threshold.

Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

Can you explain the satirical joke of marching in lockstep with the actual KKK

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
i mean, kekistan may be a 'satirical joke' but it was a satirical joke made up by racists and gamergaters to give plausible deniability to their hate speech

like, there were honest to god white supremacists carrying the flag in charleston. we're not talking about jokes on the internet here, we're talking about people publicly aligned with radical racist groups.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 38 hours!
The traveler have joined all the humanity, we are fighting for survival, together.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Shoehead posted:

They should has snuck goatse in like a proper human being would have

Would the average teenage scrub even know what the heinous anus even is now? We need a Rectal Renaissance to ensure it is never forgotten.

Kind of like the gunpowder plot, but with gaping holes.

Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

In the setting are engrams ever used for non-loot macguffin purposes?

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Shoehead posted:

They should has snuck goatse in like a proper human being would have

Should've learned from the best.

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Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

Eej posted:

Should've learned from the best.



nice try but it's been done far better.

Example A & B.

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