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Thirteen Orphans posted:Found this icon of St Mark Ji Tianxiang: I love the image of him finally trampling his opium pipe. yesssssss
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Tias posted:So I'm taking Religion 101 as mentioned previously, and I'm being taught that neither orthodox or catholics believe in inherited sin! Or, the caths do, but that the baptism washes it away.
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Sep 12, 2017 11:38
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The teacher did say that both orthodox and catholics have the myth, but without going into details. Our bullshit government-dictated curriculum says we have to focus on protestantism and islam, other christianities are for odd foreigners with brutal hats.
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Sep 12, 2017 12:39
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Tias posted:islam,...hats.
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Sep 12, 2017 12:47
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I went to Istanbul and checked out the tombs, they are in fact bitching double-hats. It is good
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Sep 12, 2017 12:50
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Tias posted:Can we not do this? Fetishizing other races is really uncomfortable, especially where these are socially and economically marginalized to the point of spiking drug use and youth suicide rates. Remember, children - the thought that you might find someone not of your own race attractive is evil and criminal. You've all heard this before, but it was different the first time.
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Sep 12, 2017 14:36
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Numerical Anxiety posted:Remember, children - the thought that you might find someone not of your own race attractive is evil and criminal. You've all heard this before, but it was different the first time. yeah because "best native hotties" isn't fetishizing a population far more likely to experience rape or sexual assault than the national average for women
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Sep 12, 2017 14:47
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"actually having jungle fever is progressive" not that many degrees separated from what you just said m'man
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My sympathies - you were born too late and in the wrong place. Truly, your talents would have placed you at the forefront of soviet psychiatry.
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is that a "your psychic powers sure did let you know what i meant" joke or something else because i don't know much about soviet psychology, or psychology in general other than "i took a class once"
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I don't know much about the plight of Native Americans or how their hotties look like, but my ignorance is no excuse, I guess.
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https://www.drugabuse.gov/about-nida/noras-blog/2014/09/substance-use-in-american-indian-youth-worse-than-we-thought (native american schoolkids do thrice as much heroin and prescription opiates as other groups) http://www.hcn.org/articles/why-native-american-women-still-have-the-highest-rates-of-rape-and-assault (one in six native women are subjected to rape once or more in their lives) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/native-american-youth-suicide-rates-are-at-crisis-levels_us_560c3084e4b0768127005591 (native american communities state they are "cried out", teen suicides rates are so staggering they can do nothing to respond to it) Numerical Anxiety posted:Remember, children - the thought that you might find someone not of your own race attractive is evil and criminal. You've all heard this before, but it was different the first time. Yes, because that's what I said  Take ten and get off the net, dude. We're not discussing some SJW poo poo you can pull your jowls and be smug about, but one of the worst( and still-perpetuating) crimes against a population ever.
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Senju Kannon posted:is that a "your psychic powers sure did let you know what i meant" joke or something else because i don't know much about soviet psychology, or psychology in general other than "i took a class once" Soviet psychiatry was less about treating mental illness than it was an adjunct to the police apparatus. When someone's behavior smelled possibly of dissent, but this couldn't positively be established, one stamped them as a pathological type - anything but complete assent to the historico-political project of Communism was of course not thinking correctly. And yes, what I said is perhaps several degrees away from "having jungle fever is progressive," but I'd like to think that there's a significant distinction in that interval. Tias posted:We're not discussing some SJW poo poo you can pull your jowls and be smug about, but one of the worst( and still-perpetuating) crimes against a population ever. I don't mean to minimize the plight of native americans, but whether or not one finds certain individuals amongst them attractive has no necessary relation to that history?
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Yeah, this looks like SJW stuff to me, though. I made joke about choosing church on hot women, which just happened to take Native flavour considering that he's in a reservation. It's like the third joke in 6 days I'm supposed to feel bad about (some BA players were angry when I said that some people who play WWII Germans might be Nazis, and one dude felt like I was seriously accusing him of being bourgeois when he "started from nothing before getting where he is" when I said that his bourgeois existence prevents him from grasping how to play Soviets in a videogame) and I'm getting annoyed.
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Sep 12, 2017 17:28
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can we just, like, kill this discussion now before it gets bad
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Sep 12, 2017 17:34
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StashAugustine posted:can we just, like, kill this discussion now before it gets bad Fine, whatever. It's just not loving funny, and if you knew people who had to see their kids kill themselves and their entire family do dope you'd realize what colossal dicks you're being.
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Thank y'all for the well wishes, I'm fine and so are my parents and the house, we just lost power and internet for a while.
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Tias posted:Fine, whatever. It's just not loving funny, and if you knew people who had to see their kids kill themselves and their entire family do dope you'd realize what colossal dicks you're being. Tias, the issue isn't that anyone here is apologizing for the treatment of native americans. It's that you took a joke that no one would have batted an eye at had the word "native" not been there, and used it as occasion to start accusing people of being okay with rape and genocide. That is rather a stretch, particularly since the adjective wasn't added gratuitously in this case. Cythereal posted:Thank y'all for the well wishes, I'm fine and so are my parents and the house, we just lost power and internet for a while. Glad to hear it, welcome back.
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♫ There's no controversy like sexual morality controversy, like no controversy I knooow. ♫Cythereal posted:Thank y'all for the well wishes, I'm fine and so are my parents and the house, we just lost power and internet for a while. Eyy, all things considered, that's not half bad. What have you been up off the grid?
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Caufman posted:Eyy, all things considered, that's not half bad. What have you been up off the grid? Writing, reading a book, and playing cards with my family. And, yesterday morning, picking up a lot of storm debris out of the yard and off the roof. I'll probably head back to my apartment in a day or two.
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That avatar.
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Valiantman posted:That avatar.
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Yo folks. I just finished a ~4 year long prog+vaporwave+dream pop album project. It's quite heavy on the ol' Christianity, so I figure a few of you may dig it. It's hard to get any traction even on 'indie' Christian music blogs because by 'indie' they pretty much mean "the same as CCM only with ukulele, acoustic guitar, and bells." It's on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR19S1rh82c ...and bandcamp here: http://music.jaytholen.net ...and there's even an ~Interactive Multimedia Experience~ I made for it here: http://jaytholen.net/celestialarchive/ Doesn't work on mobile browsers as far as I know. Hope y'all like it! If you enjoyed that, I have like 29 other releases floating around the internet. Some are from my charismatic days, so uh, don't hold those lyrics against me.
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I'm as speechless as you.
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HEY GAIL posted:Depending on the Protestant, I think this is accurate. However, I don't think the description of original sin you got is entirely accurate: the Catholics believe Original Sin still binds us to a sort of legal contract with God the Father, in which we deserve to die. Christ took that upon himself and died in our stead, which is the Catholic interpretation of why he had to die. I would say "are barred from heaven" rather than "deserve to die" but that may be nitpicking. Baptism erases that aspect of original sin but not the tendency towards 'actual' or 'personal' sin that goes with it. (As far as I know Catholics aren't required to accept penal substitutionary atonement, i.e. Christ allowing us to escape the death penalty. YMMV on whether "Christ died to satisfy a debt we couldn't" is meaningfully different.)
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Protestants are big on original sin and total depravity but that doesn't necessarily lead to a fatalistic or negative view towards life and humanity. Luther's (in)famous "sin boldly" is basically addressing that. Yeah we're all inherently sinful and can never do anything to merit God's grace, but don't get caught up in mental torment over your own sinfulness. Sinners gonna sin, accept that and "sin boldly" knowing that Christ has atoned for you and God's grace is freely offered.
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Pellisworth posted:Protestants are big on original sin and total depravity but that doesn't necessarily lead to a fatalistic or negative view towards life and humanity. Luther's (in)famous "sin boldly" is basically addressing that. Yeah we're all inherently sinful and can never do anything to merit God's grace, but don't get caught up in mental torment over your own sinfulness. Sinners gonna sin, accept that and "sin boldly" knowing that Christ has atoned for you and God's grace is freely offered. Depends on which Protestants you talk to. 
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Caufman posted:I'm as speechless as you. I am hesitant to ask but, who got you that and does it mean what I am dreading it means?
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JcDent posted:Yeah, this looks like SJW stuff to me, though. I made joke about choosing church on hot women, which just happened to take Native flavour considering that he's in a reservation. edit: also, i'm amused that the same people who use sjw as a slur have now discovered leftism
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Not a fight to be had on the thread, but you can totally call out someone for going too far, even on the left. Else we're no different from tumblr.
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Josef bugman posted:I am hesitant to ask but, who got you that and does it mean what I am dreading it means? The benefactor remained anonymous, but it almost certainly means what you think it means. I have no problem with it; what happens in the dark should come out in the light, in this life if not the next. And I've already disclosed as much of my story as I feel I need to on these dead forums. A few years before the events of Spotlight took place, I was sexually abused by an older, non-religious family member, and it was a Catholic deacon and his church lady wife who were among the first to tell me that what happened to me was abuse, and that it wasn't my fault.
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Numerical Anxiety posted:Tias, the issue isn't that anyone here is apologizing for the treatment of native americans. It's that you took a joke that no one would have batted an eye at had the word "native" not been there, and used it as occasion to start accusing people of being okay with rape and genocide. That is rather a stretch, particularly since the adjective wasn't added gratuitously in this case. No, the issue is that no one bats an eye at a joke that trivializes native womens choices. I'd have been offended even if the world native was not in there, because it's dumb and sexist. I was not going that far, you're just acting like I was because you feel attacked - because a clueless white person being told they shouldn't joke about something, is somehow worse than admitting that we should maybe not jest about further making GBS threads on some of the most suffering people on earth. Like, I realize it's not a popular opinion, but I'm not going to be dissuaded from having it just because it makes others uncomfortable. Tias fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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HEY GAIL posted:almost all of us are bourgeois and so are you i'm homeless and work on a factory production line
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HEY GAIL posted:almost all of us are bourgeois and so are you I am absolutely not
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https://twitter.com/Nikki_Levy/status/907813876577832960/photo/1 https://twitter.com/CelesteKatzNYC/status/907816727093923841 Well there's something you don't see every day, especially not in the US.
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HEY GAIL posted:almost all of us are bourgeois and so are you I work as a hardware store clerk and pay a rent to my folks to live in their house with them. My boss isn't even bourgeois- he's petty bourgeois. You overestimate the economic outcomes of nerds.
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Cythereal posted:https://twitter.com/Nikki_Levy/status/907813876577832960/photo/1 good: recognizes the superiority of the one holy catholic apostolic church bad: listens to michael loving voris
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