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.Z. posted:The bit where they are stripping the seasoning off a pan by simmering tomato sauce for 10 minutes + whatever time it spends waiting for the chicken to get made + oven time. 10 minutes of simmering tomato sauce in a cast-iron pan isn't going to do poo poo if it's a couple years old. This whole obsession people have with treating cast-iron pans as if they are these incredibly complex things that must be babied is nonsense.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:It's a food that is almost impossible to ruin (although many people, like the broccoli and carrot guy try to) as long you aren't an idiot, so when theirs turns out good they think they are the second coming of gordon ramsay. They think adding their own personal "twists" like that guy who adds a "shot" of beer (as if you'd even be able to taste that after you mix it in) makes it unique but unless you really mess with the base ingredients they are all more or less the same and the only differentiating factors are spice and quality of meat you use.
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I've been living in the UK for a while and been invited to some chilli dinners, they use carrots and sugar. That poo poo aint right man
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Sep 13, 2017 19:32
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Putting sugar in savory food is like putting fish sauce on dessert.
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Sep 13, 2017 19:39
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doverhog posted:Putting sugar in savory food is like putting fish sauce on dessert.  sugar balances acidic flavours in food, so no, it's not like putting fish sauce on your brownie. Elizabethan Error has a new favorite as of 19:53 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Sep 13, 2017 19:51
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Who said they needed balancing?
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Sep 13, 2017 20:06
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Sep 13, 2017 20:11
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Check out these scrubs who don't put fish sauce on ice cream.
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Sep 13, 2017 20:13
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Goddamn you guys are weird sometimes.
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doverhog posted:Putting sugar in savory food is like putting fish sauce on dessert. This is so hilariously wrong
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Sep 13, 2017 20:14
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Yawgmoth posted:By that argument, the fish sauce balances the sugary flavors of your dessert. 
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Sep 13, 2017 20:19
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I add a few rice krispy treats to my recipe when I make chili.
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Sep 13, 2017 20:29
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I'm actually curious, why don't/didn't people sauté veggies instead of boiling them to death? Throwing poo poo in a pan is my go to preparation method, and I don't recall ever eating boiled veg growing up (just lots of raw and lightly steamed stuff). Plus a lot of foods people complain about (broccoli, for ex) is tasty and easy sautéed. Was there a point in recent history where people thought they had to boil the disease off veg or something? Or is boiling just that much less effort??
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Sep 13, 2017 20:45
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I'm sure there are plenty of ways to make good boiled vegetables, and plenty of ways to make awful sauteed vegetables.
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Sep 13, 2017 20:53
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Elizabethan Error posted:if you're dumb/pedantic enough to think that the flavor of brownie/whatever needs balancing, go nuts with your half drop of fish sauced covered brownie
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Sep 13, 2017 20:54
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doverhog posted:Putting sugar in savory food is like putting fish sauce on dessert. You put sugar in an Old Fashioned, but that sure as hell doesn't make it taste sweet.
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Sep 13, 2017 20:57
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Theokotos posted:Was there a point in recent history where people thought they had to boil the disease off veg or something?
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Sep 13, 2017 20:58
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Yawgmoth posted:If you're dumb enough to think chili needs balancing, go nuts with your frosted stew meat & tomatoes
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Sep 13, 2017 20:59
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doverhog posted:Putting sugar in savory food is like putting fish sauce on dessert. I will never stop adding brown sugar to my beef stews or thick, brown sauces with beef bases.
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Sep 13, 2017 21:13
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Elizabethan Error posted:it does, but then i don't get my 'chili' from a can. sorry about your terrible uninformed opinions on food
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Sep 13, 2017 21:18
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Acidic/sharp/vinegary is God's own flavor, sorry y'alls broken goonyass tastebuds can't appreciate it
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Sep 13, 2017 21:21
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Yawgmoth posted:If you're going to accuse someone of "uninformed opinions on food" you should lead with something other than putting sugar in chili. Sorry your parents never taught you that foods can taste like things other than candy. gee i wonder why your opinions on food are trash
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Sep 13, 2017 21:22
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Haifisch posted:It's also why people argue over what goes in it so much. Your chili recipe is clearly the exact right one, so if you add beans but someone else doesn't, clearly they are Wrong and Bad. Same goes for using premade spice mixes/ground beef vs chunks of whole beef/etc. you'd think by this point i'd be so conditioned to seeing people in threads like this immediately, seemingly unconsciously proving posts like this correct for it to still be funny but no, it still is. you loving galoots
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Sep 13, 2017 21:23
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Xen Tricks posted:Acidic/sharp/vinegary is God's own flavor, sorry y'alls broken goonyass tastebuds can't appreciate it This is why Eastern North Carolina style is the superior barbeque!
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Sep 13, 2017 21:23
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*whistling and throwing together a dry rub* *Ingredient list contains brown sugar* WHAT THE gently caress IS THIS BULLSHIT
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Sep 13, 2017 21:26
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Anyone who hates brown sugar is racist probably.
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Sep 13, 2017 21:35
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Elizabethan Error posted:Pastry of the year clearly. Large Pastry
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Sep 13, 2017 21:36
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The anti-sugar people realize that the chili doesn't actually become sweet right? It just balances out some of the other flavors and gives the whole thing more depth. This is pretty basic poo poo.
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Sep 13, 2017 21:43
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Basebf555 posted:The anti-sugar people realize that the chili doesn't actually become sweet right? It just balances out some of the other flavors and gives the whole thing more depth. This is pretty basic poo poo.
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Sep 13, 2017 21:44
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"If your food is slightly oversalted, you can balance it out a bit with sugar." "WHAT IS THIS SORCERY?"
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Sep 13, 2017 21:47
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Elizabethan Error posted:Wait, you mean that adding a single grain of sugar to something doesn't instantly make it candy? gently caress, there goes my new business idea. ＡＬＬ ＴＨＥＳＥ ＦＯＯＤＳ ＡＲＥ ＣＡＮＤＹ ＥＸＣＥＰＴ ＥＵＲＯＰＡ ＡＴＴＥＭＰＴ ＮＯ ＥＡＴＩＮＧ ＴＨＥＲＥ
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Sep 13, 2017 21:48
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Basebf555 posted:The anti-sugar people realize that the chili doesn't actually become sweet right? It just balances out some of the other flavors and gives the whole thing more depth. This is pretty basic poo poo. Yeah but come on, just putting straight sugar in chili is gross and unnecessary. Put in something with some inherent sweetness instead of just pure sweet. A thick stouty beer, sweet paprika, orange juice, dark chocolate, something that has flavors other than just sugar e: tbf tho if you're not already making your chili with a dark beer, you hosed up somewhere along the way
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Pastry of the Year posted:ＡＬＬ ＴＨＥＳＥ ＦＯＯＤＳ Xen Tricks posted:Yeah but come on, just putting straight sugar in chili is gross and unnecessary. Put in something with some inherent sweetness instead of just pure sweet. A thick stouty beer, sweet paprika, orange juice, dark chocolate, something that has flavors other than just sugar
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Sep 13, 2017 21:59
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Elizabethan Error posted:great, now i'm stuck in a monolith. thanks rear end in a top hat Yeah, but acidic flavors don't need balancing, they need complementing. Great food comes in part from a complex marriage of complementary flavors, and to just isolate one and say, let's turn this down some with nothing else added, doesn't do much to benefit the dish as a whole. If you're cooking your chili in a way that the acidic flavors come out so sharp that they need to be toned down, that's a problem in the original recipe, not something that needs to be fixed by adding straight sugar.
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Sep 13, 2017 22:05
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My chili almost always has an oatmeal coffee stout at its core, a Breakfast With Churchill if I can get it.
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Xen Tricks posted:Yeah, but acidic flavors don't need balancing, they need complementing. Great food comes in part from a complex marriage of complementary flavors, and to just isolate one and say, let's turn this down some with nothing else added, doesn't do much to benefit the dish as a whole. 
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