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spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Zopotantor posted:

Just make sure the paper doesn't get tangled in the bell that announces a new message.

Oh Christ, what is this???

Dr Strangelove?

E; found it! You had my brain working for quite some time.
Andromeda Strain

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TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

spog posted:

Oh Christ, what is this???

Dr Strangelove?

E; found it! You had my brain working for quite some time.
Andromeda Strain

You can't tweet in here, this is the White House!

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Platystemon posted:

You can pry my document feeder from my cold, dead hands.

I have one purchased second-hand about 15 years ago which I tried to use for the first time recently and the feeder wheels aren't working very well. They seemed to have some coating on them, maybe mold. I looked up the instructions for how to clean them, and it specified that I use some particular chemical, but when I googled it it says it's now considered carcinogenic. I'm not sure I need the document feeder that much. I suppose there must be some other way to clean rubber wheels though, maybe I'll try to figure that out next year, I've done enough this year :effort:

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Buttcoin purse posted:

I have one purchased second-hand about 15 years ago which I tried to use for the first time recently and the feeder wheels aren't working very well. They seemed to have some coating on them, maybe mold. I looked up the instructions for how to clean them, and it specified that I use some particular chemical, but when I googled it it says it's now considered carcinogenic. I'm not sure I need the document feeder that much. I suppose there must be some other way to clean rubber wheels though, maybe I'll try to figure that out next year, I've done enough this year :effort:

Ask the FOOF thread about how bad the chemical actually is.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3602006

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Zopotantor posted:

Just make sure the paper doesn't get tangled in the bell that announces a new message.

That only matters when a Directive 7-12 is involved.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
It’s probably a solvent you can pick up in the paint aisle.

Most of the good ones are carcinogenic.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Platystemon posted:


Most of the good ones are carcinogenic.

Perfect thread title for FOOF or OSHA threads

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
Wait, are we talking like actually carcinogenic, or just California carcinogenic?

GazChap
Dec 4, 2004

I'm hungry. Feed me.

Horace posted:

And they deserved it. Those earbuds were terrible.

I saw one of these yesterday:



It's a car stereo where you place your iPod on a little slide out tray and the radio ingests it.

I have that exact head unit in one of my cars, although I don't use the internal iPod dock any more and just Bluetooth it up to my iPhone.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
So the TI-99/4A isn't working. It just emits a horrible noise through the TV and no picture. Hopefuly, taking it apart and reseating things will be enough, 'cause I dunno how to do much omre than that.

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related
Telex is still in use on ships, sorta. The GMDSS console has some Telex capability as some posts still is it, but honestly email/Inmarsat has replaced it.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Keiya posted:

actually carcinogenic, or just California carcinogenic?

lol, I'd never seen it put quite that way.

Sometime I might go and dig out the manual again and post to the FOOF thread as suggested and report back.

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice
Obsolete: windmills, thanks to the LIMPET - Linear Induction Machine Programmed Electric Turbine - a prototype wind-powered generator from the 1980s. (From an article on renewables in the 1990 edition of the Collins Encyclopaedia's yearly science update supplements.)



It looks like a shorter version was originally published in the more entertainingly obsolete Radio Electronics, May 1987, which has a whole supplement of its own about life in 2001.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


uvar posted:

Obsolete: windmills, thanks to the LIMPET - Linear Induction Machine Programmed Electric Turbine - a prototype wind-powered generator from the 1980s. (From an article on renewables in the 1990 edition of the Collins Encyclopaedia's yearly science update supplements.)



It looks like a shorter version was originally published in the more entertainingly obsolete Radio Electronics, May 1987, which has a whole supplement of its own about life in 2001.


But isn't the point of a windmill the fact that wind direction doesn't really matter?

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
That thing has to have crazy frictional losses

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


No way could that work unless the roof is being blown off.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Fo3 posted:

I have to admit I know next to nothing about telex. All I knew was businesses had them for written comms before they were replaced with fax. I had no idea that were typewriters used for chat sessions.

Also I need to get me one of these new-fangled smartphones that do everything. I've owned phones that were supposed to be 'smart', like the early android or last nokias, but data has always been so expensive I just used them as regular mobiles phones and nothing else, (just with camera and mp3 playing). I haven't had a phone for 3-4 years, but now I'm moving out on my own I suppose I'll need one for everything :(

afaik a Motorola moto g is the best price/performance choice right now. they're amazing pieces of kit.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


the 2nd-gen Moto X is the greatest smartphone I have ever owned and you can get a certified refurb for $110 outright

e: the only real downside is they stopped releasing Android updates for it at Lollipop (even 6.0/M is tricky; they released an OTA update for it on some versions of the phone so you can manually apply that patch with a bit of fuckery but it's literally never been an issue for me and I'm sure it would never come up for someone who hasn't had a cell phone in 3 years.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Kelp Me! posted:

the 2nd-gen Moto X is the greatest smartphone I have ever owned and you can get a certified refurb for $110 outright

This doesn't really count, but I got a Moto Nexus 6 cheap a few months ago. All my Samsung/iPhone fanyboy friends like it. I mostly enjoy the "oh what Motorola are still around?"

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Humphreys posted:

This doesn't really count, but I got a Moto Nexus 6 cheap a few months ago. All my Samsung/iPhone fanyboy friends like it. I mostly enjoy the "oh what Motorola are still around?"

yeah, I dunno why they had separate names, the N6 was basically the Moto X2+; slightly better specs and a bigger screen. One of the reasons I like the X2 so much is it's the perfect size for me, even the very-slightly-bigger X Pure and N6 felt a bit too large in my hand.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

The downside to getting one of the slightly older but otherwise good phones is the lack of security updates, though. It certainly helps that the apps and the frameworks still get updates through play store, but you're still theoretically vulnerable to whatever OS-targetting badness goes around. I'm genuinely unsure how much of a real problem that is, but it's not ideal.

I lay a lot of the blame at Qualcomm and the other component manufacturers for giving up very quickly on driver support; hopefully Google's Treble effort (to standardise a base OS that both drivers and new android versions can target for longer) will eventually help with this.

Computer viking has a new favorite as of 18:12 on Sep 13, 2017

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
You can pry my waterproof, replaceable battery and sd card S5 from my cold, dead hands.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Im happy enough with my waterproof micro-sd S8, and by the time the battery begins to fade I'll have to replace it to get software updates anyway. Which is annoying on multiple levels, by all means.

I'm personally of the opinion that phones should be sold with prominent "will get security updates until at least X date" and "will retain 75% battery capacity for at least Y years of realistic use" labels on the packaging.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I believe one of the big changes with Oreo is that they're changing the way they develop to make software updates more available across phone models

e: yeah https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-thoroughly-reviewed/2/#h1

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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Oreo seems fine so far. No big deal difference at all.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Kelp Me! posted:

I believe one of the big changes with Oreo is that they're changing the way they develop to make software updates more available across phone models

e: yeah https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-thoroughly-reviewed/2/#h1



Thank god. It's ridiculous that over half of Android devices aren't even on Marshmallow because currently updates need to be signed off by both the OEM and, for some bizarre reason, the carrier.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

i still carry a nexus 6 because it's awesome getting the new android versions right away and its big and fast and you can pry it from my cold dead hand

oh and theres no bloatware

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Efexeye posted:

i still carry a nexus 6 because it's awesome getting the new android versions right away and its big and fast and you can pry it from my cold dead hand

oh and theres no bloatware

Yeah that was a big deciding factor in picking up the Moto X2, it's about as close as you can get to a Nexus as far as the "pure" android experience. The original Moto X was similar, I loved that phone as well.

Hell, I'm pretty much a Motorola fanboy, my cell phone history was Nokia candybar->Samsung Alias 2-> Motorola Razr -> Treo 650 -> Motorola Q -> Moto Droid X2 -> Moto Bionic -> Moto Razr Maxx -> Moto X -> Moto X2. I've never had a single issue with any of them, and some of them (the Q and the Bionic, notably) were pretty far ahead of the pack for their time.

Shame the Moto Z and Z2 are supposed to be pretty meh.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Motorola needs to stop using the X. No poo poo I've thought that the droid X or whatever was a fanboy phone that was still popular 3-4 years on because people shorten the name the same. This conversation is actually what cleared it up.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

i broke teh screen on my first nexus 6 and when i told the guy in the store that i wanted to use the jump program to get a reconditioned nexus 6 instead of something new he looked at me like i was insane. i'll be sad when something happens to this one and i can't get another one

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Kelp Me! posted:

Yeah that was a big deciding factor in picking up the Moto X2, it's about as close as you can get to a Nexus as far as the "pure" android experience. The original Moto X was similar, I loved that phone as well.

Hell, I'm pretty much a Motorola fanboy, my cell phone history was Nokia candybar->Samsung Alias 2-> Motorola Razr -> Treo 650 -> Motorola Q -> Moto Droid X2 -> Moto Bionic -> Moto Razr Maxx -> Moto X -> Moto X2. I've never had a single issue with any of them, and some of them (the Q and the Bionic, notably) were pretty far ahead of the pack for their time.

Shame the Moto Z and Z2 are supposed to be pretty meh.

I went from Motorola cheap flip phone (T720?) -> Razr v3m -> Moto Droid -> Moto Droid Razr -> Moto Droid Maxx -> Moto Droid Turbo 2 -> Google Pixel

I loved the original Droid because it weighed a ton and you had no fear of breaking the thing.

The only truly bad experience I had was with the Turbo 2.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Still using my 5x. I really like it and the perfect size for me.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Sup 5X buddy. It really is a great phone, especially at its price.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Kelp Me! posted:

Yeah that was a big deciding factor in picking up the Moto X2, it's about as close as you can get to a Nexus as far as the "pure" android experience. The original Moto X was similar, I loved that phone as well.

You'd think. Lollipop came out...Fall of 2014 I think. I just looked up when my Moto X finally got 5.1. October of 2015. So a year, on one of the purest Google phones not called a Nexus (originally sold when Google still owned Motorola). After waiting 8 months for Android 5, I ditched my Moto X for an iPhone. Sucks because it was a nice phone. And I know OS versions aren't as big a deal on Android, but Google really shouldn't have to backdoor updates via the Play store. It's like Apple is the only one who can strong arm carriers.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Collateral Damage posted:

Sup 5X buddy. It really is a great phone, especially at its price.

They own :cool:. I'd get another if this one was lost.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


also the Motorola Droid 4 was the single greatest slide-out-keyboard Android phone of all time by a wide margin

look at this indestructible motherfucker

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!
They don't even make phones with keyboards anymore that don't cost like 600 bucks.

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Probably because it's redundant since they have keyboards on the screen.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


With practice you can type really quite well on those.

I'd like a quality Android keyboard phone for <moonbucks.

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Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I loved the androids with keyboards, I had the first tmobile android phone and that swing down keyboard was awesome. So much better than using the on screen.

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