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Nessus posted:Would it somehow be better if it was Winston, Reinhardt, and D.va or Zarya? You forgot barrier donkey Orisa, I love being the only one shooting her barrier for it finally break only for her to insta pop a new one, truly engaging gameplay.
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Three D.vas who are grouped in mystery heroes is unfair. We just all boop one guy for 120 damage, one person DM's and the other two shoot him. Rinse and repeat for their whole team over and over again. It's also why mystery heroes is fun.
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We had one match in mystery heroes where, kid you not - we had one lucio, one Mercy, and the rest of us were all Mei's... On King's row defense. Needless to say, at one point, the enemy team wasn't even able to get out of their spawn room. The other team seriously questioned what pact we made with the devil to get that result. Guigui fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Sep 10, 2017 |
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Sep 10, 2017 14:29
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Had a mystery heroes were we spawned as 3 Reins, Mercy, Ana and Bastion on Dorado and basically I think only the Ana and one Rein ever died? I was the Bastion.
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Sep 10, 2017 22:26
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Just had a mystery heroes game the past hour where the play of the game was two DVA ults coming in and a strike squad of three mini DVAs gunning people down.
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Sep 11, 2017 05:17
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Just reported a dude saying in allchat "i want to brutally rape every female employee at blizzard headquarters." I wonder how many days he'll be silenced for.
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Sep 11, 2017 06:29
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You don't actually have to quote the disgusting things people say in the game that you report them for.
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Sep 11, 2017 07:55
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turtlecrunch posted:You don't actually have to quote the disgusting things people say in the game that you report them for. It's been a while since I've seen someone being so blatantly lovely for no real reason, is all. Someone just kinda spontaneously deciding "hmm what's one of the worst possible things I could say right now just because I can" once again makes me wonder why it's taken so long for Blizzard to even acknowledge that there are some serious deficiencies to their moderation if people feel comfortable dropping bon mots like that. I'm also confused as to why allchat...the white text chat that you see show up in the menu screens...even exists. Unless I'm completely blind there isn't any sort of chat channel browser like you see in other games, so all it seems to attract is a bunch of pointless shitposting between rounds. It's especially weird given how Blizzard has previously gone out of their way to limit open communication in other games of theirs like Hearthstone.
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Sep 11, 2017 08:12
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Kai Tave posted:It's been a while since I've seen someone being so blatantly lovely for no real reason, is all. Someone just kinda spontaneously deciding "hmm what's one of the worst possible things I could say right now just because I can" once again makes me wonder why it's taken so long for Blizzard to even acknowledge that there are some serious deficiencies to their moderation if people feel comfortable dropping bon mots like that.
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Sep 11, 2017 10:01
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Why does Hanzo feel so much more resilient with 200 HP than other heroes? Is his hitbox considerably smaller than his model? https://youtu.be/XWhV7WwCGMQ This is an older clip, where Reaper still had his health globes, but I still notice this in the current version. I'm having a way harder time to kill Hanzo with Reaper (or Roadhog), even at close range, than with, say McCree, Soldier or Tracer. As you can see, the shots are all well on the body with some pellets hitting his head, he just won't die. Well, eventually he does, but it takes 5 hits, which gives him plenty of time to potentially land one of his bullshit headshot tree logs. Is there something wrong with Hanzo's hitbox? Notice how the first hit, which seems perfectly fine, only does about 37 HP damage.
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Kai Tave posted:It's been a while since I've seen someone being so blatantly lovely for no real reason, is all. Someone just kinda spontaneously deciding "hmm what's one of the worst possible things I could say right now just because I can" once again makes me wonder why it's taken so long for Blizzard to even acknowledge that there are some serious deficiencies to their moderation if people feel comfortable dropping bon mots like that. You can click on the names in it and get a menu of options. Maybe the idea was to use it to look for a group, although no one ever uses it that way.
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You know, I was wondering why it was so much harder getting hits with Doomfist, since I haven't heard anything about any nerfs, but apparently they did nerf him, and just didn't say anything. I just thought I sucked. I mean, I do, but it's nice to know that his hitbox is the reason I keep missing very clear hits as well. Too bad, he was real fun to play.
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Is Junkertown and the Mercy/DVA changes going live today?
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Rirse posted:Is Junkertown and the Mercy/DVA changes going live today? Next Tuesday
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turtlecrunch posted:Next Tuesday Another week of avoiding competitive then, otherwise it just be the typical "yay we won...oh 'heroes never died"
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After the Mercy ult change all these need to do is fix Scatter Arrow and I have no complaints about the state of the game. Why can't they just make it so the first impact with something splits it into 2 arrows, and then each of those split into 2 more when they hit? It achieves the same thematic ability without letting him one shot half the heroes in the game.
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Sep 13, 2017 18:28
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Hanzo is a very weak character though. e: To elaborate, how do you remove scatter while buffing Hanzo's ability to do his job (secure kills)? He is not a "gently peppers you with tiny damage then fires Helix Rocket" character, he is all-in. turtlecrunch fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Sep 13, 2017 18:43
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Make scatter arrow shoot a single, regular arrow, but with a cooldown.
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Sep 13, 2017 18:48
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Enallyniv posted:Make scatter arrow shoot a single, regular arrow, but with a cooldown. this but also it deletes Widowmaker from the game
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Is there a character you're bad with that you wish you were good with? For me it's Tracer. I'm absolutely incompetent with her due to my terrible reaction time but she seems like so much fun for players that are good with her.
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Enallyniv posted:Make scatter arrow shoot a single, regular arrow, but with a cooldown. Straight White Shark posted:this but also it deletes Widowmaker from the game These are both wonderful ideas. Why put snipers in a team based objective game E: I apologize for being salty but there's nothing fun about being 1 shot from across the map with no chance of rebuttal! Also I'm a junkrat/Lucio main so I can't aim Truecon420 fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Sep 13, 2017 19:03
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Dick Trauma posted:Is there a character you're bad with that you wish you were good with? Pharrah. I don't have particularly good aim with her rockets, I'm terrible at staying in the air with her, and...I just suck with her in general. Like I went 5 and 17 with her in Comp last season. I had no other hero I was even close to as bad with.
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the problem with scatter arrow is that it sucks at its intended purpose (of scattering). It's unintentionally designed to be a super normal arrow, in that you aim it at a precise location to deal focused damage. if you let it scatter and ricochet then you usually end up losing its efficacy. it's kind of backwards. presumably the concept is that it's supposed to synergize with his tracker arrow so you can see into a room someone's hiding in and ricochet a bunch of shots into it, but it's not very good at that, because it's not guaranteed to hit and it's on a long cooldown so you can't actually pressure that room more than once. The most you can do is secure a kill on an already low-hp person who's fled. Idk, could maybe make it a mode or an alternate weapon where you switch between regular arrows and scatter arrows, removing their 1hko qualities and making them more of a reusable area of effect denial ability. Maybe make it so that they ricochet randomly when you fire them normally, but if your tracker arrow outlines enemies for you then it 「ʟᴏᴄᴋs ᴏɴ」 and makes them more lethal or something.
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Sep 13, 2017 19:10
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Replace scatter arrow with a boxing glove arrow
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Dick Trauma posted:Is there a character you're bad with that you wish you were good with? Genji, because it's embarrassing to be ripped apart by him but not be able to do anything with him. Ana, because she's fantastic and I just can't aim worth poo poo. Zarya, because managing shields is just something I haven't mastered yet. I kind of suck at aiming overall so I tend to run with close-quarters or spray and pray heroes, and Mercy as support. 
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I absolutely cannot wallride as Lucio for more than 2 seconds.
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Truecon420 posted:E: I apologize for being salty but there's nothing fun about being 1 shot from across the map with no chance of rebuttal! Also I'm a junkrat/Lucio main so I can't aim On the contrary, I guarantee at least one person in this interaction is over the moon with how much fun he's having.
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Reduce Scatter Arrow's damage by about 200, give it a two second charge time before you can fire it, and instead of launching an arrow it instead launches Hanzo forward with an arrow in his hand that he stabs someone with.
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Dick Trauma posted:Is there a character you're bad with that you wish you were good with? Tracer play is loving intense. She's a blast to play with but God she gives you such tunnel vision. I wish I could play Reinhardt or orisa. They're just so...meh.
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turtlecrunch posted:Hanzo is a very weak character though. Scatter arrow is kind of a weird ability for Hanzo when you think about it. Especially when hes a very high damage hero capable of one shotting people already with his normal attack when used well. Strictly speaking, I don't think he needs a buff to secure kills since hes already very good at that, though its a bit tricky to aim with. The only buffs I can really think he needs is either something that lets him operate better at close range, or something to perhaps do AOE damage. Since I think the original intention of Scatter was to allow players to hit around corners.
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Sep 13, 2017 19:46
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make scatter arrow a second sonic arrow
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Replace scatter arrow with a grapple arrow so he can use it for mobility and also if he shoots you with it he grapple kicks you like Batman But then he dies instead of you
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Fix the floor hitboxes so scatter reliably scatters the way you'd expect it to, reduce it from 6x75 to 6x60, increase the CD to 12 seconds.
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hot take: I think scatter is good in theory because it lowers the skill floor and makes it easier for Hanzo to contribute without feeling overly oppressive to play against The only problem is that it's super finicky and random and that doesn't feel good on either the giving or receiving end, so it still needs to be reworked
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Sep 13, 2017 20:03
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I dunno seems fine to me
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Armacham posted:I dunno seems fine to me this i'm actually ok with. its the 450 single target damage potential i am not ok with
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So my two baby friends are getting into Overwatch and I'm rolling with them just for fun. What are some dumb character builds I can do to entertain myself and make it more fair? So far I've got Recon Mode Bastion Chicken Mode Pharah (No fly. Only hop.) Combat Lucio (No heals. Only speed.) Battle Mercy (obvious). Any other fun ideas?
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No shield reinhardt Laser murderer symmetra Torb
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I've told this story before but the first time I realized how dumb scatter arrow was it was when I was trying to bank a shot off a wall behind a Reinhardt to hit him around his shield, and not only did every single splinter miss the enormous German man in power armor but one of them bounced off two walls, down to the level under the walkway I was standing on, and killed a Mercy I didn't even know was there. Like yeah, I guess it's a little funny-if-you-were-there but no part of it was anything that I was actually trying for and I can only imagine that Mercy felt pretty hard done when they saw the deathcam if you want to talk about "no counterplay."
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Move scatter arrow to 24x10, have each arrow on impact stack 2d/s for 5s with cancel on Bubble/Heal, have Hanzo take FF from his own scatter arrow and have targets hit light up like sonic arrow. Increase cooldown to 12s. More reliable damage, more team functionality, better zoning, and no random bouncing shard to kill someone half the map away.
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