AP posted:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/174501278?t=02h32m07s

This is the funny guy from the other night, hope he gets a refund.

Colostomy Bag posted:

I'm not dissing Uwe Boll. I was pointing out unironically (or however one uses the term) that a director who brings to life video games to film does a better job than our Lord and Saint Roberts at a fraction of the cost.

Yet one got chastised out of the market; the other is still milking whales.

ZekeNY posted:

Say what you like for Uwe Boll, but his poo poo comes out on time and on budget

peter gabriel posted:

oooh he's live

Berious posted:

The best part is shitizens think that handwavium is still coming. Chris just gotta stay up all night coding a couple of times then they patch in the whole loving game

Mr.Tophat posted:

Getting a creepy bossy vibe from this steamer

Mr.Tophat posted:

Getting a creepy bossy vibe from this steamer

Scruffpuff posted:

Truga posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLKnCeeAW48

quote:

‘I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or my grandchildren’s time — when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantative content in the enormously influential media, the 30-second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance.’

peter gabriel posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdHyzGXAJPg&t=90s

Scruffpuff posted:

It took incredible balls to do this while simultaneously claiming, with a straight face, that the physics were fully 100% modeled on thruster action, so that if you lost a part of one thruster in a firefight, that loss would be reflected in the ship's handling - not by "cheating" such as having a simple code check to force yaw one way if a thruster is damaged, but on the fly by the physics engine itself as it calculates thrust vector dynamically based on localized damage. They also bragged that the ship damage was completely dynamic, and you could "patch up" parts of the ship based on the type of damage you took, where, what materials, and based on what repair utilities are at hand.

It takes balls of steel to say all of that, and to deliver physics-free noclip ship-shaped player entities that explode along the same exact loving predetermined patterns each time, no matter how they blow up.

bacalhau posted:

The refunds have got to stop. Star Citizen is going to crash very soon and it's just going to be the scapegoat.

Scruffpuff posted:

This is correct. It still amazes me, years later, that they hacked a FPS engine, removed the ground, left the water effects in, rended player entities as spaceships, turned on NOCLIP, and set a handful of variables to mildly affect movement between ship types, and passed it off - largely successfully - as a space flight simulator.

It doesn't even qualify as a CryEngine mod because those work.

It took incredible balls to do this while simultaneously claiming, with a straight face, that the physics were fully 100% modeled on thruster action, so that if you lost a part of one thruster in a firefight, that loss would be reflected in the ship's handling - not by "cheating" such as having a simple code check to force yaw one way if a thruster is damaged, but on the fly by the physics engine itself as it calculates thrust vector dynamically based on localized damage. They also bragged that the ship damage was completely dynamic, and you could "patch up" parts of the ship based on the type of damage you took, where, what materials, and based on what repair utilities are at hand.

It takes balls of steel to say all of that, and to deliver physics-free noclip ship-shaped player entities that explode along the same exact loving predetermined patterns each time, no matter how they blow up.

That alone is false advertising, bait and switch, or just loving lying.

Now remember that this is one of literally thousands of examples where CIG promised the stars, and delivered either steaming poo poo, or, more frequently, nothing at all.

Mirificus posted:

Scruffpuff posted:

In case anyone thinks I'm lying about how detailed and dynamic ship damage and repair is according to CIG's fever dream, please feast your eyes on this page, and try to mentally reconcile it with the reality of the PU:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/15062-Design-Notes-Ship-Repair-And-Maintenance

Or feast your eyes on this masturbatory fantasy, and refresh your memory on CIG's claims by scrolling down to the "Real Physics" section:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game/spaceflight

If this isn't outright fraud, then the only other explanation is that the entire current game is a placeholder.

Sappo569 posted:

Someone post a gif of that one ship with the thrusters that look like washing machines , spinning and gyrating wildly as the ship just does the most benign maneuver

Physics are in !

Thoatse posted:

As much as the janky flight model pisses me off and as funny as it is to call it such, it really isn't noclip which imo is even worse because this is literally their idea of awesomesauce and they went to great lengths to make it this way. There was much back and forth from a large chunk of the active community that didn't appreciate multi million dollar bait and switch they saw happening in real time, hence the 2000 page 'controls katamari' thread which was the original forum gulag. That thread occasionally forced cig's hand into begrudgingly clarifying their shifting intentions and the more they divulged the worse it was. Like every other mechanic of consequence, they really tried to leave it as vague and imagination defined as possible and squelch the subject at every turn because they know as soon as they commit to a polarizing mechanic they will certainly lose a % of backer$. CIG's attitude and handling of this matter were about on par with PGI's handling of ECM and 3pv combined, but on a scale beyond Harold Camping's 110million dollar crowdfunded game that got canned in pre-alpha, Rapture.



I know they have ghost thrusters and cheats and poo poo to make the janky artmobiles fly straight and physics is a four letter word at cig, but they do have the framework and basis what *could have been a decent flight model (not talking about their netcode issues, just vehicle dynamics) if anyone at the company _in a position of influence_ had a clue or inclination that something is horribly wrong. Most ships are so twitchy that they move in a way nearly indistinguishable from noclip so it's fun to point and laugh at the balsawood, but it really is the preposterous thrust values (and ghosters) they insist on and have only dug in their heels and doubled down about over the years because they know they are no longer making a game for limited number of sim whales but instead for the masses of fps players that have long since displaced and outnumbered the original 75% sim whale crowd were patient zero of the hype infection. The fps and console devs working for mr micromanager with his thorough understanding of physics plus a bunch of graph charts showing current ratios of kbm players vs joystick/hotas/cockpit folk and simple cold math made their choice.



Watch wtf trying to fight at the end of his 3 day yawn drive to the comm array. He's flying one of the only ships that doesn't whip around fast as you can spam the mousepad (Herald) and he gets his rear end kicked because the other ship can still fly like noclip so just jousts him to death while he ineffectually flails his nose around without the slightest clue how to manage the situation without missiles to spam.

http://i.imgur.com/RFTrut1.gifv

Players used to have access to the xml values for offline mode experimentation and Tazius and others made some alternative flight models using the framework there and all of them were insanely better than what passes for a flight model at cig. All of this is just an annoyance for crobbler who just wants to make his lovely movies in peace and everyone else just wants to get their checks and go home hopefully before the sun comes up this time.

gently caress this, i'm out
http://i.imgur.com/0NT7pVY.gifv

Mr.Tophat posted:

I've just discovered this while looking for other people streaming FEAR

I've discovered that most people who stream this game are cowards.

Always
Be
Closing (With Your Enemy)

Jobbo_Fett posted:

You should see me play Reinhardt!

Mr.Tophat posted:

Maybe I should do so! While healing you! Because I play Mercy! Emphasis!

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Gonna go Grandmaster/Top500 with Reinhardt only, will you be my pocket Mercy? <3

[X] Yes
[ ] No

Thoatse posted:

Players used to have access to the xml values for offline mode experimentation and Tazius and others made some alternative flight models using the framework there and all of them were insanely better than what passes for a flight model at cig. All of this is just an annoyance for crobbler who just wants to make his lovely movies in peace and everyone else just wants to get their checks and go home hopefully before the sun comes up this time.

Taintrunner posted:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/464360/3030_Deathwar_Redux/

A fusion of Elite-style space exploration, frantic and fast-paced combat, and a healthy dose of Lucas Arts-style comedic adventuring, 3030 Deathwar Redux sets you free to roam the entire galaxy, after a mysterious War left planets uninhabitable and the remaining stations on quarantine lockdown. Help freewheeling space pilot John get back on his feet in a huge open world, and pilot your own course through the game's dizzying array of missions, stories and features.

Will you take on some local delivery jobs so you can afford a better ship. Downsize to a jetsuit and go shooting space-junk for quick money? Or focus on finding that missing gold shipment, before the local gangs and salvage teams get there first?

Meanwhile, there's that drat mechanic who sold you a stolen ship, and this mysterious 'Taoist' group who everyone keeps talking about. Before long, John finds himself inextricably caught up in a plot of intergalactic intrigue...

Features
* Open-world space adventure with frantic combat and 30 star systems to explore
* Board stations, visit the bars and talk to an array of space scum
* Ghostly derelict ships to find on your Star-Map, spacewalk into, and salvage valuables
* Large variety of fun jobs and missions, with amusing and exciting side-quests
* Diverse array of ships to buy and upgrade for Performance, Defence and Combat
* Get a fuel-scoop and refuel from the corona of a sun without frying yourself!
* Find Pirate Stations and begin a life of crime, attack innocent traders, steal cargo from traffic
* Invest in a large cargo ship and go asteroid mining for metals, or haul goods between systems
* Hidden wormhole shortcuts, comets, unique stations and other secrets to find
* Get caught up in an irreverent, amusing and enthralling main story
* A whole load more!

wrap it up crobberts

aleksendr posted:

No matter how far they tweak the flight model, they will always have to keep it relatively slow for the server physic frames to be able to keep up.

Cryengine hit registration netcode is notoriously slow on the uptake and PGI (Caretaker of Mechwarrior Online) realised early on that anything moving above 1.30kph tend to not register hits properly. Add a little lag and you would get ligh mechs being really hard to kill, lateral hits almost never registering properly. Ultimately they had to slow everyone down to bring the lighter mechs max speed within the limit the netcode could handle.