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https://twitter.com/CNN/status/907756671438528512 Is filming vertical a sin? chernobyl kinsman posted:went to my first Latin Mass on sunday and it was like i'd never been to church before Welcome to the thread Trad-curious buddy.
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Worthleast posted:Welcome to the thread Trad-curious buddy. thanks bud. i went from 'i should start going back to mass' to following a bunch of trad twitter accounts and developing strong opinions about vatican II in like ~6 months. none so righteous i guess
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Sep 14, 2017 04:03
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Y'know, I tell myself sometimes that I should read the documents of Vatican II, but I've already got so much on my plate. Right now I'm something like 1/8th of the way through Don Quixote.
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Sep 14, 2017 04:14
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Keromaru5 posted:Y'know, I tell myself sometimes that I should read the documents of Vatican II, but I've already got so much on my plate. Right now I'm something like 1/8th of the way through Don Quixote. when you're done with that - i'm also a medievalist grad student so if anyone wants weird medieval christian texts i've got a bunch of fun recommendations
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Sep 14, 2017 04:38
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chernobyl kinsman posted:i'm also a medievalist grad student so if anyone wants weird medieval christian texts i've got a bunch of fun recommendations You have found yourself around excellent company.
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Sep 14, 2017 04:39
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i know it's not the only reason but whenever people say "i have serious problems with vatican ii" i'm just like "the parts where it paves the way for contextual theology and liberation theologies or the part where it says freedom of religion is a human right"
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Sep 14, 2017 04:54
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chernobyl kinsman posted:when you're done with that - i'm also a medievalist grad student so if anyone wants weird medieval christian texts i've got a bunch of fun recommendations you should talk to HEY GAIL, she studies 30YW Saxon soldiers who wield pikes and throw people out windows etc Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Sep 14, 2017 04:58
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Senju Kannon posted:i know it's not the only reason but whenever people say "i have serious problems with vatican ii" i'm just like "the parts where it paves the way for contextual theology and liberation theologies or the part where it says freedom of religion is a human right" realizing that the sspx is less about latin and more about jews is when i started to get woke
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Sep 14, 2017 05:13
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Lol, SSPX is about jews? What chodes. I'm not a fan of my local church, so I tend to listen to Sunday mass over internet radio. They do it from different churches erry time, and let me tell you, I'll take Latin and organs over Lithuanian and guitars.
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Sep 14, 2017 06:22
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Lithuanian and guitars does sound pretty trill, though!
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Sep 14, 2017 06:39
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Imagine English and guitars, like the stereotype with youth reach out churches, but in Lithuanian. If they came up with cooler lyrics, maybe...
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Sep 14, 2017 07:01
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Caufman posted:The benefactor remained anonymous, but it almost certainly means what you think it means. I have no problem with it; what happens in the dark should come out in the light, in this life if not the next. 1) Bloody hell I had no idea Caufman, I am so sorry! 2) But you are, seriously, one of the nicest and most geniuine people I've seen on here, it seems unfair to give you a bad avatar like that.
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Sep 14, 2017 07:28
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I don't think of it as a bad avatar. It may have been given to me in mockery, but I happen to like Catholicism, stylized black & white imagery, and swing sets. And it doesn't come with an angry red caption, either. Regardless, the story behind Spotlight is not one to be ignored or avoided, even if those events were perpendicular instead of parallel to my own.
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Sep 14, 2017 07:40
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JcDent posted:Imagine English and guitars, like the stereotype with youth reach out churches, but in Lithuanian. If they came up with cooler lyrics, maybe... I know exactly what you mean, it's a thing here too. I like the sound of lithuanian vocals in general, though! Caufman posted:The benefactor remained anonymous, but it almost certainly means what you think it means. I have no problem with it; what happens in the dark should come out in the light, in this life if not the next. drat, I'm sorry dude. Seconding that you're a mighty decent christian and all-around cool guy, and I shall pray that you do well in all future endeavours. If that av irks you the slightest, I would be happy to cut my chocolate budget and buy you a new one, just let me know.
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Sep 14, 2017 07:42
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That's nice and generous of you, thank you, but I would only want it changed if it bothered other people. SA is not a safe space, but I don't need to be unintentionally making it less safe. edit: In a related story, after the allegations and lawsuits regarding clergy sex abuse and cover-up scandal, it became my parish's policy (and possibly the policy of the entire archdiocese) that adults have to be in groups of at least two when working with children. I think it's a pretty good policy for any adult who spends a lot of time around kids. Caufman fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Sep 14, 2017 07:47
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Yeah, Caufman, you're a certified cool guy/goon! Meanwhile, what is happening here?
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Sep 14, 2017 08:30
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JcDent posted:Meanwhile, what is happening here? A scam by the sounds of it, Bloody hell.
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Sep 14, 2017 08:37
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Looks like a crook to me. Legit healers won't ask for more after they are already done taking an old lady for all that she got, in my experience. Dude's an Ethiopian Creflo Dollar, which is pretty sad  That picture of women in sari prostrating themselves before the picture of Christ is pretty breathtaking, though!
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Sep 14, 2017 08:39
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chernobyl kinsman posted:thanks bud. i went from 'i should start going back to mass' to following a bunch of trad twitter accounts and developing strong opinions about vatican II in like ~6 months. none so righteous i guess Greetings Senju Kannon posted:i know it's not the only reason but whenever people say "i have serious problems with vatican ii" i'm just like "the parts where it paves the way for contextual theology and liberation theologies or the part where it says freedom of religion is a human right" The Vatican 2 mass should have just been the Tridentine in vernacular
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Sep 14, 2017 13:19
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from what i hear the missal these days isn't too far off from that
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Sep 14, 2017 13:23
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Senju Kannon posted:from what i hear the missal these days isn't too far off from that It has been trimmed down significantly and gently caress the sign of peace
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Sep 14, 2017 13:27
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Why the gently caress is the priest looking at me I'm the least important part of this event
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Sep 14, 2017 13:28
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Smoking Crow posted:gently caress the sign of peace  why the heck did they change it so much, the original sign of peace is between the dudes on the altar why am I involved
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Sep 14, 2017 13:46
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Smoking Crow posted:Why the gently caress is the priest looking at me maybe the priest wants to share the miracle of the eucharist with everyone in the congregation and not hide it behind his back like a magician doing sleight of hand
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Sep 14, 2017 13:48
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I'm already sharing in the miracle by ingesting the eucharist
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Sep 14, 2017 13:52
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the eucharist can be a feast for your eyes AND your insides
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Sep 14, 2017 13:55
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StashAugustine posted:realizing that the sspx is less about latin and more about jews is when i started to get woke Well I never. The anti-semites were all kicked out along with the 9/11 truthers. I just met a newly ordained SSPX priest who is a convert from Judaism and he has some exceedingly choice words about anti-semitism.
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Sep 14, 2017 14:29
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I apologize for the insult, but the fact remains that the SSPX, at least at a high level, does seem to have more to do with arguments over ecumenism and religious liberty than the liturgy per se
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Sep 14, 2017 15:04
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doesn't really change the fact that a lot of the most vocal critics of the second vatican coucnil were critical of it specifically because of a, the religious freedom clause, and b, the fact that proselytizing the jews was now discouraged
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Sep 14, 2017 16:04
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StashAugustine posted:I apologize for the insult, but the fact remains that the SSPX, at least at a high level, does seem to have more to do with arguments over ecumenism and religious liberty than the liturgy per se Careful between those still in the SSPX and those who say that they are "the true SSPX" despite being kicked out for racism etc. For whoever wanted to read the documents of Vatican II, I suggest the Decree on Social Communication, which is only three pages long, and basically says "The Church recognizes that TV now exists, and people are influenced by it".
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Sep 14, 2017 16:22
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Senju Kannon posted:the eucharist can be a feast for your eyes AND your insides you can only see the host when he holds it up anyway and id rather he be facing the cross than me at that point
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Sep 15, 2017 00:55
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Worthleast posted:Is filming vertical a sin? Unequivocally yes.
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Sep 15, 2017 05:42
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JcDent posted:Meanwhile, what is happening here? Someone who was doing their PhD research on this just visited my parish. I didn't get a chance to talk to her at all, but my wife did and the lady mentioned that exorcisms were virtually unheard of within Orthodoxy in Ethiopia until some pentecostal group came and made it all the rage.
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Sep 15, 2017 05:46
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tie your sleeves back TIE YOUR SLEEVES BACk she could loving die
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Sep 15, 2017 10:54
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Senju Kannon posted:i know it's not the only reason but whenever people say "i have serious problems with vatican ii" i'm just like "the parts where it paves the way for contextual theology and liberation theologies or the part where it says freedom of religion is a human right"
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Sep 15, 2017 10:54
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Smoking Crow posted:The Vatican 2 mass should have just been the Tridentine in vernacular
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Sep 15, 2017 10:56
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Senju Kannon posted:maybe the priest wants to share the miracle of the eucharist with everyone in the congregation and not hide it behind his back like a magician doing sleight of hand the miracle is shared when we participate in the ritual. moreover, "communion by the eyes" is a medieval thing, it's entirely possible to do it within the rubrics of the old rite--there are reports of elevations lasting up to an hour. You can bring that back if you want.
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Sep 15, 2017 10:58
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StashAugustine posted:realizing that the sspx is less about latin and more about jews is when i started to get woke broke: being an anti-semite in the latin mass woke: being an anti-anti-semite in the latin mass bespoke: you can have an even older ritual that was never changed, all you have to do is cross the bosporous...
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Sep 15, 2017 10:59
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anyway i did not mean to imply the bourgeoisie is good, which is why i am literally ennobling myself
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HEY GAIL posted:no the parts where it talks about the vernacular but that part is good. what does latin mean to cultures with no connection to rome? it seems like an imposition, especially since translating from latin to indigenous languages usually requires an english translation in between
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