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This whole argument is really dumb since they are adding a matchmaking system for raids soon Sorry it wasn't up Day 1 I guess Or sorry it isn't exactly what you want I guess.
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Lmfao. Raid is hours old and the baby crew is already, "Bungie failed because good players weren't forced to carry me through in 2 hours immediately, #nevergoingtoseetheraid." Try socializing like a decent human being. I did in D1 and it lead to doing every raid countless times. And by decent, I mean no God drat Kinect mics.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:09
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DrNutt posted:Talking about the raid actually. So now you're willfully misinterpreting what I say in order to get in some tepid burns of your own I see. I was clearly responding to a post about Nightfalls, and they were the subject of the response. Could you put your dick away for five seconds and understand what it is you're getting upset about? You didn't answer my actual raid related question anyway. Why are you so threatened y the idea of.more.options being made available to players?
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Sep 14, 2017 15:09
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You clowns make up arguments that people aren't even having
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Sep 14, 2017 15:10
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FishBulb posted:This whole argument is really dumb since they are adding a matchmaking system for raids soon It was a passing comment about a slight disappointment with the game. It's escalated because of some seriously bizarre hostility towards not working a 9 to 5 job.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:11
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The problem with raid matchmaking is that ransoms won't be able to clear it, full stop. Then they start bitching the raid is too hard and it gets upvoted in Reddit and bungie responds and now the raids are basically as hard as a story mission.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:11
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This thread loving sucks you idiot assholes
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Sep 14, 2017 15:11
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It's not a retuned easy mode raid matchmaking so it doesn't really appeal to me or most people complaining. I'm pretty sure most of us want to see the Raid in the way matchmade Strikes work. Add matchmaking, strip out or dumb down the complex mechanics, knock the difficulty down, maybe add extra players, give same gear models with maybe a less cool default shader and lower levels. But nah that ruins the raids for the people running them normally. Because reasons.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:12
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Yes it's called thinly veiled elitism
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Sep 14, 2017 15:13
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Norns posted:Yes it's called thinly veiled elitism Microsoft® Thinly Veiled Elitism™ (w/ 90 day warranty)
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Sep 14, 2017 15:14
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it would almost be worth implementing it just to see the clusterfuck
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Sep 14, 2017 15:15
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FishBulb posted:
I think the 50% was from people who actually stuck with the game, I'll see if I can find it but they mentioned it in the context of long-term players. But yeah, it's still probably a case where most people who really wanted to do raids got to do at least a few. Like I'm probably not going to even attempt this one until the paths get figured out, because as much as I'd enjoy exploring a new area totally blind, I definitely do not have 10 hours straight to play. Even 4 hours is pushing it pretty hard for me, but I also totally get that I'm not the target audience for hardcore MMO-style raiding. It just feels like that's basically what the entire endgame is based around, so I want to at least try it out eventually.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:15
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Hey, great idea. Take the raid, which is suppose to be the hardest mechanics, bested only by good team work and make it a colouring book for the tists. You want to see what Callus' shag carpet looks like then watch a video.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:15
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Kilometers Davis posted:It's not a retuned easy mode raid matchmaking so it doesn't really appeal to me or most people complaining. I'm pretty sure most of us want to see the Raid in the way matchmade Strikes work. Well they aren't doing that. Sorry.
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Spiv posted:Hey, great idea. Take the raid, which is suppose to be the hardest mechanics, bested only by good team work and make it a colouring book for the tists. Elitism aside, how does that change the standard raid? It doesn't. You would still get the same experience while I would get mine.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:18
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Kilometers Davis posted:It's not a retuned easy mode raid matchmaking so it doesn't really appeal to me or most people complaining. I'm pretty sure most of us want to see the Raid in the way matchmade Strikes work. Yes you are correct that removing mechanics, dumbing down the puzzles, and adding extra players would in fact ruin the raid.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:18
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They are adding raid matchmaking I understand it isn't the system you want. But they are adding it Can we talk about cool guns now?
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Sep 14, 2017 15:19
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Load up someone's twitch Grab a controller Pretend you're playing
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Sep 14, 2017 15:19
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Its extremely cool that its acceptable in MMOs for the developer to have to personally learn the lessons of the last 13 years rather than just play WoW and copy their poo poo so players can just continue have the exact arguments over and over again in this inescapable hell as if LFG raid groups weren't a solved problem.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:20
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Yes a dumbed down raid would certainly ruin the normal one because no game ever has had adjustable raid difficulty
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Sep 14, 2017 15:20
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poptart_fairy posted:It was a passing comment about a slight disappointment with the game. It's escalated because of some seriously bizarre hostility towards not working a 9 to 5 job. When I raided in D1 I had all kinds of weird work hours to deal with and a girlfriend who loving hates Destiny and somehow I still managed to find five other people who wanted to play when I was able. Norns posted:Yes it's called thinly veiled elitism 
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moist turtleneck posted:Load up someone's twitch
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Sep 14, 2017 15:21
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Y'all act like they didn't have 3 years to smooth any of this poo poo out. The sherpa thing is a step in the right direction .
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Sep 14, 2017 15:22
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Maybe they don't think it's an issue that needs sorting out
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http://i.imgur.com/dI1M8Ey.gifv
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Norns posted:Y'all act like they didn't have 3 years to smooth any of this poo poo out. The sherpa thing is a step in the right direction . It is but hopefully it doesn't take them until Destiny 3 to implement lfr. FishBulb posted:Can we talk about cool guns now? The way Coldheart ramps up makes it one of the most satisfying game guns I've ever used. Keeping it focused on the head of a boss the entire clip is bliss. I'm sure there are better ones like the solar hand cannon but I've only got two exotics so far. Coldheart and the power SMG I can't remember because I've never used it.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:25
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9/14 never forget
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So hey I played the first game for about a week and it didn’t click, but in the interim I’ve kept an eye out on news on the first one and it sounded more and more my speed Combine that with wanting to have a new fun hangout game because I’m sad brain and lonely, my question is raids aside does this game support a couple plays a week habit or is this an every day kind of game? If this has been answered already feel free to laugh at me
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Celery Jello posted:So hey I played the first game for about a week and it didn’t click, but in the interim I’ve kept an eye out on news on the first one and it sounded more and more my speed You can play the game a small amount a week and still have fun as long as your brain isn't broke and you eventually get mad that you can't see 100% of the content in the game (raids or extremely high level pvp poo poo). More specifically there are weekly goals called "milestones" that will help you keep gaining levels incrementally if you don't have the time for higher level content or if you just like to see numbers getting bigger.
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Celery Jello posted:So hey I played the first game for about a week and it didn’t click, but in the interim I’ve kept an eye out on news on the first one and it sounded more and more my speed Raids aside it can be a super casual game. There isn't really a right pace. You're actually going to be better off popping in a few times a week vs playing all day every day.
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Celery Jello posted:So hey I played the first game for about a week and it didn’t click, but in the interim I’ve kept an eye out on news on the first one and it sounded more and more my speed However you want to do it. There's a ton of daily/weekly stuff to do but none of it's strictly mandatory and if you're not really worried about gearing up to raid or whatever it's actually perfect for popping in for a 20 minute shootmans session here and there.
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DrNutt posted:You can play the game a small amount a week and still have fun as long as your brain isn't broke and you eventually get mad that you can't see 100% of the content in the game (raids or extremely high level pvp poo poo). No because soon when he loads up, Bungie will force other players to carry him while he eats chips into his Kinect mic. He can see everything.
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 did they just flat out remove mercy rule or something, jfc
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Actually I'd be totally cool with Bungie implementing lfr or raid matchmaking or whatever now that they have finished the raid design. Have fun with the Pleasure Gardens, brave matchmakers! I got the scout rifle from that encounter, you might get it too! Pozload Escobar fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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DrNutt posted:When I raided in D1 I had all kinds of weird work hours to deal with and a girlfriend who loving hates Destiny and somehow I still managed to find five other people who wanted to play when I was able. Why are you so threatened by the idea of more options being made available to players? Finding half a dozen people to play a game for six hours straight, when I'm typically only able to play around midday GMT, is a fiddly experience. Regular Nightfalls and raids would not at all be altered by having random matchmaking available for the former and altered mechanics for the latter. Emalde posted:
I keep getting this sort of result and it's always been when the other side has a premade, ugh. The common defense I see for these matches continuing is that "comebacksa are possible" but...uh, no, they're really not when things have gone that far.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:33
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I can't wait to be chastised by 5 sweaty nerds grinding out guide XP because I am slow and bad at this game. I'm glad they put a system in that will actually mark me as a plebian scrub. I will grovel and beg for each guided games token they offer me.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:35
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I hope MMOs never evolve from early 2000s raid design
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Sep 14, 2017 15:36
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Emalde posted:
MErcy rule is basically hitting a specific score imbalance at certain timeframes IIRC, it's surprisingly easy for one sided games to avoid this
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Actually I'd be totally cool with Bungie implementing lfr or raid matchmaking or whatever now that they have finished the raid design. No but then the antisocial sperglords on reddit will upvote a plea to nerf raid mechanics to the front page and Bungie will acquiesce.
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