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Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO



2022 FIA Formula 1 WDC

Minidust posted:

Were they expecting two phones though? I feel like the most obvious way to handle that scenario is just "make the 2017 phone really good."

Another revenue stream.

Personally I'm gonna try and get a 256GB iPhone X. Just gonna stop thinking about it and trust that it will be a poo poo hot product.

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Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer
Did anyone upgrade with ATT Next last year? I enrolled when I bought my 6S, but on apple.com the only option is to pay 24 monthly installments that add up to the full price of the phone, rather than the lower payments where you send it in after 12 or 24 months.

If I want to continue with ATT Next, I suppose I have to upgrade using ATT's front end rather than through the Apple Store app?

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Sock The Great posted:

Did anyone upgrade with ATT Next last year? I enrolled when I bought my 6S, but on apple.com the only option is to pay 24 monthly installments that add up to the full price of the phone, rather than the lower payments where you send it in after 12 or 24 months.

If I want to continue with ATT Next, I suppose I have to upgrade using ATT's front end rather than through the Apple Store app?
Apple can't do anything with or about Next. You need to preorder through ATT.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Josh Lyman posted:

Apple can't do anything with or about Next. You need to preorder through ATT.

The Apple Store (app or in store) can absolutely process you into AT&T Next, I've done it in the past. AT&T does some reshuffling of Next plans every year, I hope they didn't get rid of the Next Every Year program because thats what I'm on and want to get an iPhone X with.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


rage-saq posted:

The Apple Store (app or in store) can absolutely process you into AT&T Next, I've done it in the past. AT&T does some reshuffling of Next plans every year, I hope they didn't get rid of the Next Every Year program because thats what I'm on and want to get an iPhone X with.
They can start you on Next but I didn't think they could upgrade you.

Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer

Josh Lyman posted:

They can start you on Next but I didn't think they could upgrade you.

This appears to be the case. The only options I have to upgrade through Apple are the AUP and Installments through ATT that add up to the full price of the phone.

Looks like I am pre-ordering with ATT. Wish me luck.

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot
Can you just tap the piece of poo poo bar at the bottom to go back home or do you need to swipe like a monkey every time?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

rage-saq posted:

Make sure you dockerize it and put it on github so everyone can easily get it up and running.

Also stream the map tracker live on twitch.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Josh Lyman posted:

They can start you on Next but I didn't think they could upgrade you.

I did my 7+ AT&T next upgrade with them last year, they even took my phone and mailed it off.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Michael Scott posted:

Can you just tap the piece of poo poo bar at the bottom to go back home or do you need to swipe like a monkey every time?
What bar at the bottom would that be?

Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer

rage-saq posted:

I did my 7+ AT&T next upgrade with them last year, they even took my phone and mailed it off.

Yeah they will do it in store. I'm more interested in whether I can pre-order through the Apple Store app or the awful myATT app. Looking like myATT is the way to go if you are/want to stay on Next.

dc3k
Feb 18, 2003

what.

Michael Scott posted:

Can you just tap the piece of poo poo bar at the bottom to go back home or do you need to swipe like a monkey every time?

You have to swipe

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


APPUHL RIPZ US OFF AGAIN

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/9/14/16307588/iphone-8-plus-battery-size-compared-iphone-7

Evidently Apple's confident iOS 11 and the new iPhone 8 hardware will sip less energy, because the iPhone 8 battery has 7% less capacity than the 7's.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


My former roommate, a CS prof who is otherwise oblivious to tech, said "if iphone is $1000, truly unreasonable for what it is. Their advertising is super powerful."

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Well duh. Everyone knows Apple puts an enormous markup on everything they sell.

But everyone also knows Apple sells something you can actually use, is built with quality, will get support for years, and in a complete reversal for every other tech device in history, retains enough value that a secondhand market is actually viable.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Josh Lyman posted:

My former roommate, a CS prof who is otherwise oblivious to tech, said "if iphone is $1000, truly unreasonable for what it is. Their advertising is super powerful."

Well someone oblivious to tech would surely know the value of tech

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Josh Lyman posted:

My former roommate, a CS prof who is otherwise oblivious to tech, said "if iphone is $1000, truly unreasonable for what it is. Their advertising is super powerful."

Is this a comment on the hardware markup or on the idea that people want such devices?

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

dc3k posted:

You have to swipe



This is such a letdown

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Jealous Cow posted:

Is this a comment on the hardware markup or on the idea that people want such devices?
It's a comment that Apple marketing has failed super hard because he thought there was ONLY a $1,000 iPhone.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

My friend, who is an idiot, is confused about things easily.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004




(not actually, though...)

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Josh Lyman posted:

It's a comment that Apple marketing has failed super hard because he thought there was ONLY a $1,000 iPhone.

Ahhh oh yeah. They didn't do much expectations management ahead of the announcement.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Pivo posted:



(not actually, though...)

hahahaha :wtc:

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Michael Scott posted:

This is such a letdown

Don’t sign your posts.

Also, seriously? Whinging about having to swipe? Just buy the 8, it’s not like they didn’t release a perfectly good product that meets your needs.

Edited to remove misogynist term. My bad.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.
https://twitter.com/KeithKrimbel/status/908389997891538944

Well hopefully this is all true.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


UI guidelines for X, 12min video

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/fall2017/801/

CoasterMaster
Aug 13, 2003

The Emperor of the Rides


Nap Ghost

Pivo posted:



(not actually, though...)

I saw a gif that looked like this, except the notch was on the left instead of the right and the text in the list items slid over to avoid the notch. I can't find that gif anymore...does anyone have it?


edit: found it again

https://twitter.com/vojtastavik/status/907911237983449088/video/1

CoasterMaster fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Sep 14, 2017

Celery Jello
Mar 21, 2005
Slippery Tilde
Here's a question. I've not gotten a Plus before but am thinking about upgrading to the 8 Plus. If I end up deciding I'm not a fan after some extended use (rather than in-store), would Apple already be accepting those as tradeins for the X, or is there generally a delay before they do?

Minidust posted:

Were they expecting two phones though? I feel like the most obvious way to handle that scenario is just "make the 2017 phone really good."

With all the screen shortage rumors floating around, it's entirely possible that was the plan, but they had to come out with another phone they knew they could produce in large quantities to cover for the extra two months of time they needed to prevent the launch from flopping.

Celery Jello fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Sep 14, 2017

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
nvm

Books On Tape
Dec 26, 2003

Future of the franchise
Do they make a hat or something that will hold the phone in position over your eyes so that I can use aug reality to watch a porn through my phone like its happening on my bed but also have both my hands available to be able to jerk off and have a finger in my butt?

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO



2022 FIA Formula 1 WDC

Grassy Knowles posted:

Don’t sign your posts.

Also, seriously? Whinging about having to swipe? Just buy the 8, it’s not like they didn’t release a perfectly good product that meets your needs.

Edited to remove misogynist term. My bad.

Please tell me the misogynistic term was 'bitching' because that would be loving hilarious.

Over There
Jun 28, 2013

by Azathoth

Theophany posted:

Please tell me the misogynistic term was 'bitching' because that would be loving hilarious.

lmao

GhostOfTomNook
Aug 17, 2003

El gallo Pinto no pinta,
el que pinta es el pintor.


Celery Jello posted:

Here's a question. I've not gotten a Plus before but am thinking about upgrading to the 8 Plus. If I end up deciding I'm not a fan after some extended use (rather than in-store), would Apple already be accepting those as tradeins for the X, or is there generally a delay before they do?


With all the screen shortage rumors floating around, it's entirely possible that was the plan, but they had to come out with another phone they knew they could produce in large quantities to cover for the extra two months of time they needed to prevent the launch from flopping.

You'll end up losing at least $300 from the 8+ purchase price to trade it in, even in 2 months.

You can buy the 8+ and try it... if you don't like it you have 14 days to return/exchange for a regular 8.

Celery Jello
Mar 21, 2005
Slippery Tilde

pragan4 posted:

You'll end up losing at least $300 from the 8+ purchase price to trade it in, even in 2 months.

You can buy the 8+ and try it... if you don't like it you have 14 days to return/exchange for a regular 8.

Yeesh, I underestimated how much the price would drop in that short of a time.

I can live with the Plus for a year then do the XS, I guess. I was gung-ho about the X until it became clear there wasn't a huge difference between it and the 8 compared to the price/hassle of getting it.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


Celery Jello posted:

there wasn't a huge difference between it and the 8

The OLED display, FaceID, Portrait mode on the selfie camera, and dual OIS on the rear cameras are banner features ...

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.




I believe it. The issue he had on stage made it look like it wasn’t authenticated, just like when Touch ID devices restart.

Being able to instantly disable the feature when handing your phone over is nice as well.

Celery Jello
Mar 21, 2005
Slippery Tilde

Pivo posted:

The OLED display, FaceID, Portrait mode on the selfie camera, and dual OIS on the rear cameras are banner features ...

I guess I should clarify for me. The OLED is super nice, but I don't mind about camera features at all other than "it takes nice pictures", which both of them cover, and I'm ambivalent about FaceID.

I'm not sure I want to spend another month and a half plus however many extra shipping months I get stuck with on an aging 6 to get the OLED.

I want to jump on the new thing as much as the next person but I feel like if I stick to my 3 year cycle on the X, rather than doing a stopgap and getting the XS next year, I'll regret it.

Celery Jello fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Sep 14, 2017

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Pivo posted:

The OLED display, FaceID, Portrait mode on the selfie camera, and dual OIS on the rear cameras are banner features ...

Pretty sure FaceID is a negative for most people. Camera stuff, meh.

OLED is nice but that screen shape is fugly, so balances out.

Celery Jello
Mar 21, 2005
Slippery Tilde
More than anything I just wish they'd provided FaceID as an alternative to the fingerprint rather than just doing the typical Apple thing of "Nah we know what we're doing" and removing the old thing.

If they're right, they're right, but there's enough weird question marks around it that it doesn't seem unreasonable to shy away from dropping a grand on it.

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Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


The original iPhone was $599 on contract. Unsubsidized iPhones cost $400 more, so you're actually getting the iPhone X for the same price, and that's without even accounting for inflation.

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