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Jazerus posted:obviously methods of rationality sucks. but many of the fics supposedly inspired by it are a lot better than it, and metropolitan man is one of them. you are missing the point entirely I didn't read their negotiations as anything other than luthor stalling/reaching the best compromise position he could without intending to drop his ultimate goal. I was skimming a bit by then though. It was presented as an example of rationalists winning through rationalism and luthor's pov was the first two chapters iirc, so I assumed the story was presenting him as actually rational/an example of rationality to aspire to, and that his stuff was the main draw. I also thought it implicitly endorsed his goal, but that doesn't really matter. I really dug the idea of superman as a sort of inverse utility monster and what his moral obligations and responsibilities were, but it was half a chapter of that then back to bland plotting and experimentation, or deadshot hanging out with Mrs Kent, then maybe another chapter. What was there was pretty well done, and I legitimately enjoyed it, but I never felt it was given enough focus. Basically it was presented (correctly or not) as 'look at luthor be rationalist to kill superman' and the scenes with him as the focus were the worst parts of the story, so I came away with a negative impression. Unrelated, but one dude on the sufficient velocity forums said something like it would be hard to have rationalist sci-fi, since it's harder to give the protagonist something that would give them a realistic edge against the bad dudes than in fantasy. Rationalist methods are generally presented as problem solving steps, so that'll constrain the framing a bit, but you really can't think of any other source of interesting conflict it might apply to?
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Gitro posted:I didn't read their negotiations as anything other than luthor stalling/reaching the best compromise position he could without intending to drop his ultimate goal. I was skimming a bit by then though. Rationalist scifi is perfectly fine. The main edge that matters in most cases is having more information than your opponent while also having the initiative(in its simplest form, an ambush). "A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." - Gen. George S. Patton You're not always going to have infinite time to monkey around and be able to count on your ideal scenario existing when you want it to, no matter what methods you use. An AI or Rationalist that is crippled by indecision until it has run millions of scenarios is a dead AI or Rationalist.
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# ? Aug 30, 2017 05:13 |
I'm not even sure what rationalfic is. Whenever someone tries to explain it to me it always seems to be a story where the protagonist just kind of coasts through things by thinking Rational Thoughts and there are maybe some very video-y game-y elements.
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Milky Moor posted:I'm not even sure what rationalfic is. Whenever someone tries to explain it to me it always seems to be a story where the protagonist just kind of coasts through things by thinking Rational Thoughts and there are maybe some very video-y game-y elements. fanfics that Rational People like, which are therefore Better than other fanfics
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Milky Moor posted:I'm not even sure what rationalfic is. Whenever someone tries to explain it to me it always seems to be a story where the protagonist just kind of coasts through things by thinking Rational Thoughts and there are maybe some very video-y game-y elements. that's the really bad kind that directly apes MoR and tends to be by writers who just love tvtropes the better "rationalfics" tend to just feature a protagonist who's scientifically skilled and the author clearly has an academic background related to whatever kind of science the protagonist does. the setting is often altered somewhat to be more detailed and work according to some sort of scientific laws that the protagonist can figure out, if the original setting wouldn't really be amenable to that. they really have very little to do with MoR but many of them mention it as somehow inspiring them (perhaps to do better than yud?) so they're lumped in
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# ? Aug 30, 2017 07:59 |
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Tunicate posted:fanfics that Rational People like, which are therefore Better than other fanfics in practice, this is pretty much it: fanfic of other stuff written by the fan club for the fan club. And it's mostly still better than HPMOR.
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divabot posted:in practice, this is pretty much it: fanfic of other stuff written by the fan club for the fan club. And it's mostly still better than HPMOR. It's not that hard. Terry Goodkind's randian Opus Faith of the Fallen is better than HPMOR, and it is objectively terrible.
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Chapter 63: TSPE, Aftermaths part 2 Now to see how things affected our protagonist. I mean, we've already seen exactly how they affected him, but why not have a rambling recap for the dumber members of the audience? quote:There were much worse places to be trapped, Harry supposed. In fact you probably couldn't think of anywhere better to be trapped than an ancient castle with a fractal ever-changing structure that meant you couldn't ever run out of places to explore, full of interesting people and interesting books and incredibly important knowledge unknown to Muggle science. quote:And if there wasn't a Dark Lord, Harry couldn't defeat him, and he would be trapped in Hogwarts forever. quote:Why had he done it...? Don't let that stop you from discussion though. quote:Harry didn't want to confess and ruin his reputation forever and get everyone angry at him and maybe end up killed by the Dark Lord later. He'd rather be trapped in Hogwarts for six years than face that. That was how he felt. And so it was in fact helpful, a relief, to be able to cling to a single decisive factor, which was that if Harry confessed, Professor Quirrell would go to Azkaban and die there. quote:What was he going to do about Azkaban? quote:Harry stared up at the bright blue sky, and thought of the Milgram experiment. Yud omits the "learner" in the primary experiment being placed behind a wall, isolated from the "teacher" and subject. (He is referring specifically to the primary experiment, hence "26 out of 40") quote:But at the experimenter's prompting, they had, most of them, gone on administering what they believed to be painful, dangerous, possibly lethal electrical shocks. quote:Harry could hear Professor Quirrell laughing, in his mind; the Defense Professor's voice saying something along the lines of: Why, Mr. Potter, even I had not been so cynical; I knew men would betray their most cherished principles for money and power, but I did not realize that a stern look also sufficed. So yeah, evo-psych seems to be as good a fit for Yud as prophecies about a cyber-god. Moreso, really, at least he could mask his ramblings about human nature as quote:Harry blinked, then; because his brain had just made the connection between Milgram's experiment and what Hermione had done on her first day of Defense class, she'd refused to shoot a fellow student, even when Authority had told her that she must, she had trembled and been afraid but she had still refused. Harry had seen that happen right in front of his own eyes and he still hadn't made the connection until now... ... But seriously. We tend to write-off (no pun intended) HPMOR as rambling, dull, repetitive and badly written on our way towards denouncing the seemingly more grievous sins it commits. But being a badly written screed by an author who fundamentally doesn't care care about his craft. Someone who couldn't be bothered to start creative writing 101, much less pass it. Someone who aspires to the heights of competence exhibited by the tvtropes forums. Kind of a fundamental issue with Yud and his ilk. Once you self-diagnose as a genius, there's really not incentive to try and improve, at anything. (One of the reasons why relatively recent pedagogical science recommends you focus on actions, rather than character, when talking with a child. Don't let your kids categorize themselves as "bad" or "smart" - both may have really unfortunate consequences) quote:
quote:Why was he so sad, now, whenever he thought of Professor Quirrell? Harry was used to knowing himself, and he didn't know why he felt so sad... quote:Why am I different from the other children my age? quote:There ought to always be one real person who you truly were, at the center of everything... ... quote:Hermione nodded, she just nodded, she couldn't think of what to say. She'd missed Harry too, but she was realizing, with a guilty sort of feeling, that it might've been a lot worse for him. She had other friends, Harry... it didn't feel fair, sometimes, that Harry talked to only her like that, so that she had to talk to him; but Harry had a look about him like unfair things had been happening to him, too. It's also fairly accurate - people as up their own rear end as Harriezer don't have a lot of friends. Mind, both as a "genius manipulator" and as quote:Did Professor Quirrell do something wrong?" she said at last. quote:Harry stared up at the canopy above his bed. ... The chapter ends with Trewlaney: quote:She came awake with a gasp of horror, a disruption of her breathing that left her feeling deprived of air and yet her lungs didn't move, she woke up with an unvoiced scream on her lips and no words, no words came forth, for she could not understand what she had seen, she could not understand what she had seen, it was too large for her to encompass and still taking shape, she could not put words to that formless shape and so she could not discharge it, could not discharge it and become innocent and unknowing once more.
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Chapter 64: Omake Files 4, Alternate Parallels For our sins, we must suffer through Yud's take on rational fanfic for OTHER works. LOTR posted:The Shadow had foreseen every move they could make. Had almost - Frodo still could not imagine how it had been done, how the Shadow had arranged such a thing - had almost maneuvered the Council into sending the Ring straight into Mordor with only a tiny guard set on it, as they would have done if Frodo and Bilbo had not been there. quote:Frodo gazed at them all, feeling a wildness come over him, a despair; and as his heart weakened a shadow came over his vision, a darkness and a wavering. From within the shadow Frodo saw Gandalf, and the wizard's strength was revealed as weakness, and his wisdom folly. For Frodo knew, as the Ring seemed to drag and weigh on his breast, that Gandalf had not thought at all of history and lore, when the wizard spoke of how the Enemy would not understand any desire save power; that Gandalf had not remembered how Sauron had cast down and corrupted the Men of Númenor in the days of their glory. Just as it had not occurred to Gandalf that the Enemy might learn to comprehend foes of goodwill by looking... Ohwait: quote:All he had to do was put on the Ring. THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE posted:"I had the strangest dream," Lucy said, her voice even quieter, "where we didn't have to organize any creatures or convince them to fight, we just walked into this place and the lion was already here, with all the armies already mustered, and he went and rescued Edmund, and then we rode alongside him into this tremendous battle where he killed the White Witch..." (Actually, kinda? Once you invent the "original sin" as justification for Christ's sacrifice totally achieving something, the generations of Israel keeping the faith or breaking it are rendered irrelevant. And if you throw the rapture into the mix, every Christian did until it comes [any minute now] is also pointless) MY LITTLE PONY: FRIENDSHIP IS SCIENCE posted:Naruto posted:(This has now inspired an extended fanfiction, _Lighting Up the Dark_ by Velorien.) Anita Blake posted:ERDŐS IN CHAINS quote:THUNDERSMARTS quote:UTILITARIAN TWILIGHT Disney' Aladdin posted:"Excuse me," said Jasmine. "Aladdin, my darling, you're cute but you're an idiot, do you know that? Did you not notice how once Jafar got his hands on this lamp, he got his own three wishes - oh, never mind. Genie, I wish for everyone to always be young and healthy, I wish nobody ever had to die if they didn't want to, and I wish for everyone's intelligence to gradually increase at a rate of 1 IQ point per year." She tossed the lamp back to Aladdin. "Go back to what you were doing." Different authors will have different things to say regarding on the question of why everyone wish for "me" "myself" and "I". Better topic for discussion than "what would you wish for" as such, actually. Hamlet posted:
MOBY DICK AND THE METHODS OF RATIONALITY posted:
The Matrix posted:NEO: I've kept quiet for as long as I could, but I feel a certain need to speak up at this point. The human body is the most inefficient source of energy you could possibly imagine. The efficiency of a power plant at converting thermal energy into electricity decreases as you run the turbines at lower temperatures. If you had any sort of food humans could eat, it would be more efficient to burn it in a furnace than feed it to humans. And now you're telling me that their food is the bodies of the dead, fed to the living? Haven't you ever heard of the laws of thermodynamics? Best (and most bearable) saved for last.
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 19:50 |
Ugh. The lord of the rings one is annoying, because of how much it misses the point but oh my god the Hamlet one is so infuriatingly smug while being the absolute worst 13 year old's impression of Shakespeare. That's not he wrote! All of this is wrong!
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So why does the author hate on McGonnigall so much? Is it just that she's a woman? Because canonical McGonnigall is pretty fierce. She's one of the best Transfiguration wizards out there, she's a skilled animagus, she's smart, she's logical, she's self-disciplined, she doesn't out up with foolishness from others, she knows how to read people, she's pretty much the only teacher at Hogwarts who is impartial when it comes to rewards and punishments, and she's one of the few adults in the series (along with the Weaselys, maybe), who doesn't have any agenda beyond fighting Voldemort and keeping the kids safe. You'd think Yud would love her.
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Epicurius posted:So why does the author hate on McGonnigall so much? Is it just that she's a woman? Because canonical McGonnigall is pretty fierce. She's one of the best Transfiguration wizards out there, she's a skilled animagus, she's smart, she's logical, she's self-disciplined, she doesn't out up with foolishness from others, she knows how to read people, she's pretty much the only teacher at Hogwarts who is impartial when it comes to rewards and punishments, and she's one of the few adults in the series (along with the Weaselys, maybe), who doesn't have any agenda beyond fighting Voldemort and keeping the kids safe. You'd think Yud would love her. he literally didn't read the books to prep for MoR, he read bad fanfiction. yud doesn't know anything you just said
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# ? Sep 7, 2017 22:11 |
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get your filthy euphoric hands off LotR, yud
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Xander77 posted:Never read the original, but yeah, sure - the point of a Christ allegory is that mortals are unnecessary. Xander77 posted:Umm. Xander77 posted:Still a better love story than Twilight. Xander77 posted:My personal version of the three wishes does in fact include "just make everyone gradually smarter, and that should work out better for solving the worlds problems than individual wishes". Xander77 posted:Different authors will have different things to say regarding on the question of why everyone wish for "me" "myself" and "I". Better topic for discussion than "what would you wish for" as such, actually. Xander77 posted:Uuuuuuuuuuuuugh. Xander77 posted:Best (and most bearable) saved for last.
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Tiggum posted:I'm not sure what increasing everyone's IQ by 1 point a year would actually do though. Mmm. The truth is, it's an increase in empathy that would do more to save us than IQ. Tiggum posted:It's a funny idea, but he hasn't bothered to even try to make Neo sound like the original character. Plus, it's a tired critique that's been done a billion times, and it's pretty well known that it was originally going to be the matrix was harvesting the brain's computational power but that confused audiences. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Sep 8, 2017 |
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Tiggum posted:I'm not sure what increasing everyone's IQ by 1 point a year would actually do though. Not much - IQ already grows at about a third a point per year - it's the Flynn effect.
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Tiggum posted:No worse than the actual Anita Blake books. Boy is this true. She pretty much fucks her way through a list of wereanimals and vampires 30-some books long.
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 03:01 |
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The Matrix one is funny, and then you remember that Yud thinks we live in a simulation and wants to break the second of thermodynamics so he can live forever.
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 03:17 |
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Tunicate posted:Not much - IQ already grows at about a third a point per year - it's the Flynn effect. It "grows" when you compare new tests to old tests. The median test result is always IQ 100, with deviations from that median, so that wish is pretty meaningless. What the author tried to say is "make everyone gradually smarter" and failed, just like rationalfic
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Cavelcade posted:Ugh. The lord of the rings one is annoying, because of how much it misses the point but oh my god the Hamlet one is so infuriatingly smug while being the absolute worst 13 year old's impression of Shakespeare. That's not he wrote! All of this is wrong!
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 10:50 |
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MikeJF posted:Mmm. The truth is, it's an increase in empathy that would do more to save us than IQ. But how could they show how smart they are if not by justifying atrocities under a thin veneer of rationality?
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Junkozeyne posted:It "grows" when you compare new tests to old tests. The median test result is always IQ 100, with deviations from that median, so that wish is pretty meaningless. What the author tried to say is "make everyone gradually smarter" and failed, just like rationalfic I think the genie would answer the wish by killing enough people with top iqs that the survivors receive a collective bump of at least 1 point each year.
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Tiggum posted:I'm not sure what increasing everyone's IQ by 1 point a year would actually do though. In aggregate? Nothing. We lose more than that over time to mental degradation caused by age, so by the time enough years had passed to make it worthwhile for an individual they'd already be losing it. Victorkm posted:Boy is this true. She pretty much fucks her way through a list of wereanimals and vampires 30-some books long. I've been playing a game with these books for years. I'm going to buy one of them the moment I can pick up a new one, open to a couple random points in the book, and not hit a sex scene with a White Wolf reject. So far I have never paid a dime for an Anita Blake book.
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 09:50 |
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Chapter 65: Contagious Liesquote:Hermione Granger had read somewhere once, that one of the keys to staying thin was to pay attention to the food you ate, to notice yourself eating it, so that you were satisfied with the meal. This morning she'd made herself toast, and put butter on the toast, and cinnamon on the butter, and it really should've been enough to get her to notice, this time, the goodness that was in front of her... quote:"Every good thing in the world brings its own opposition into existence. Phoenixes are no exception." For one thing, we have in fact tried to test our politicians for suitable qualities, but the list of qualities that might make a politician qualified at his job is so vast (and so absurdly unrelated to the qualities that would make for a good expert for a politician to listen to) that we're still having trouble. Ah, got it. The notion that you have a measurable qualifier of "good person" that would also encompass "good leader", "intelligent person" "good scientist" and " In real life, of course, you can be a brilliant physicist or chemist, get your Nobel prize, then start writing about inherent traits of racial intelligence, or rail against evil SJWs. quote:She was getting the sense that Harry... Look, if you want your character to grow up, you kinda have to characterize them are needing to grow up first. Is Harriezer every going to look back upon his days as an insufferable brat (surely over by now) and regret them? Amend his ways in some manner? Your basic blindungsroman requires a progression to maturity from a point which is immature, rather than a mastery of rationalism. quote:"I have two pieces of good news for you, Mr. Potter. First - have you met Mr. Rubeus Hagrid, at all? The groundskeeper? He was an old friend of your parents." ... Back when I was in the army, someone corrected my attitude with the simple platitude of "every single person in the world knows something you don't, and has something to teach you. Whether a nobel-winning scientist or a street sweeper". I accepted this on an intellectual level (because you'd have to be monumentally blinded by your own ego not to), but still struggle to accept it in my daily behavior even now. And for Yud, that's just... obviously wrong on the face of it. There are people worth knowing, and there are untermenschen. quote:Harry's eyes narrowed for a moment. "I see. Then please remind the Headmaster that Godric Gryffindor, in his last words, said that if it had been the right thing for him to do, then he wouldn't tell anyone else to choose wrongly, not even the youngest student in Hogwarts." In other news, Cameron is apparently a fan artist. Peter is from Narnia. In other news, Quirrelmort woke up. (After a nice soothing rest he self inflicted, which goes back to the discussion we had about stun-spells apparently being safe above) quote:The stern old healer had then turned, and started to say to Professor Quirrell that he was absolutely not to overexert himself or... upset himself... quote:Six incantations the Defense Professor spoke then; six of the thirty that he had used to safeguard their important conversations in Mary's Room. Xander77 fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Epicurius posted:So why does the author hate on McGonnigall so much? Is it just that she's a woman? Because canonical McGonnigall is pretty fierce. She's one of the best Transfiguration wizards out there, she's a skilled animagus, she's smart, she's logical, she's self-disciplined, she doesn't out up with foolishness from others, she knows how to read people, she's pretty much the only teacher at Hogwarts who is impartial when it comes to rewards and punishments, and she's one of the few adults in the series (along with the Weaselys, maybe), who doesn't have any agenda beyond fighting Voldemort and keeping the kids safe. You'd think Yud would love her. She's a reasonable authority figure in the hands of someone who considers himself the final arbiter of reason. Someone convinced that he's been held back from greatness his entire life by everyone who has ever told him 'no'. He's not capable of respecting an authority figure unless he thinks they're smarter than him, and he thinks he's the cleverest man alive. At the beginning it might seem like she's being set up as the straight-man foil to Harriezer's lunatic ramblings, but once it becomes unavoidably clear that this is an author tract wherein the hero constantly uses his perfect genius to deduce the author's exact beliefs via horseshit inductive reasoning, she gets relegated to 'the slow-witted fuddy-duddy who just isn't smart enough to keep up', making shocked faces to a non-existent camera every time something happens. I'd like to assume sexism isn't involved, but we're talking about a guy who asked people to fill in an application form to be his sex slave. Assumptions like that just wouldn't be rational Besides, everyone knows that are just too emotional to be proper
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So I finally got around to reading Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. It reads like a bad fanfic, not MoR bad but still pretty bad.
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 16:05 |
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EvilTaytoMan posted:So I finally got around to reading Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. It reads like a bad fanfic, not MoR bad but still pretty bad. I wonder if it's better when seen as a play?
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Chapter 66: Self Actualization, Pt 1 Is Harriezer hesitating? Nah, he's just (rationally) lying in wait: quote:Harry understood the weaknesses of Ravenclaws well enough to know that you had to try answering your own quibbles. Did some plans call for waiting? Yes, many plans called for delayed action; but that was not the same as hesitating to choose. Not delaying because you knew the right moment to do what was necessary, but delaying because you couldn't make up your mind - there was no cunning plan which called for that. The difference between hesitation and looking for information is poignant, though you'd think a more relevant point was just how vital the missing information is supposed to be, rationally speaking. quote:"No," hissed Harry. quote:"Neville and Harry Potter are learning dueling from Mr. Diggory!" Hannah blurted as soon as they were a few steps away from the table.
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# ? Sep 23, 2017 09:35 |
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HPatMoR posted:Harry wanted to chuckle, but there wasn't any gesture in Parseltongue for the kind of laughter he wanted to express.
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# ? Sep 23, 2017 10:30 |
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Are the weights a Dragonball thing? I think they're some kind of anime thing.
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Dabir posted:Are the weights a Dragonball thing? I think they're some kind of anime thing. Let's Read: "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality": I think they're some kind of anime thing
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# ? Sep 23, 2017 17:58 |
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Dabir posted:Are the weights a Dragonball thing? I think they're some kind of anime thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XYCjVIP_yY
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Dabir posted:Are the weights a Dragonball thing? I think they're some kind of anime thing. It's actually one of the "cleverer" ideas Harriezer has for the Battle School, which mainly comes about because Yud bends the rules for him again.
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 06:43 |
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Yeah, it's an anime thing, though lord knows it may hail from an older tradition, legend, myth or something. I have no idea what the bit with the store was going on about.
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 07:36 |
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Pvt.Scott posted:Yeah, it's an anime thing, though lord knows it may hail from an older tradition, legend, myth or something. weeaboutique
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 12:55 |
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Does this fan fiction do anything with sirus black? He was my favorite character when I read the books as a kid and it'd be cool to have more about him
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 08:51 |
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Chapter 67: Self Actualization, Pt 2 Possibly (hopefully) the last battle school episode? Hermione refuses to align with Draco to fight Super-Seyan Harriezer. Draco manages to put Chaos between the two armies (thanks to compasses that show the where the main enemy force is) quote:The Noble and Most Ancient House of Malfoy had maintained their influence over Britain for centuries by understanding that you couldn't always be the most powerful. Sometimes another Lord was just stronger, and you had to settle for merely being his foremost lieutenant. You could build up quite a position of wealth and power over a dozen generations of being second in command. You just had to be careful, each time, not to let your House be dragged down with the fall of the Lord you served. That was the Malfoy tradition which centuries of experience had honed... ... Chaos still crushes everyone, as the metal is apparentl a bulletproof vest for sleep spells. I'm not sure if anything in the HP universe can actually stop spells - it's either a defensive spell or a dodge, from what I recall. You'd think someone would bring it up? (they couldn't ecause the author hadn't thought of it) Anyways, Daphne suddenly develops a crush on Neville (I guess someone finally saw whatever film the actor got hot in) and they duel: quote:Daphne's wand swung to point to her left, and she shouted "Tonare! " She still gets taken down, because... you know, girl. Also, not a part of Harry's super awesome army. quote:"You know," said Hermione Granger, "I understand that it's not really your fault, but I'm getting tired of hearing people talk about the Boy-Who-Lived like you're - like you're some kind of god or something."
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 09:13 |
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Lurks Morington posted:Does this fan fiction do anything with sirus black? He was my favorite character when I read the books as a kid and it'd be cool to have more about him There is some stuff with Sirius Black and Peter Pettigrew but it's minor and more about metafictional commentary and response to other fanfics than a plot point in its own right.
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 09:23 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:There is some stuff with Sirius Black and Peter Pettigrew but it's minor and more about metafictional commentary and response to other fanfics than a plot point in its own right.
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Xander77 posted:We already went over that bit. Unless there's another one. There is, much later.
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 11:51 |