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Seebach
Jul 14, 2012

Mierenneuker posted:

Something is being teased:
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/908374937294876672

New hero? New skin? Hanamura remake? Who knows.

So its going to be a Varian Wrynn skin. I think the Arm is Raynor's armor though right?

The ground is most likely Volskaya Framework, the cobble steps are probably a lead up to the nexus starting point?

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banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




cyber valeera

Disargeria
May 6, 2010

All Good Things are Wild and Free!
I have played with tcjimbo a few times and some of them were good and some of them were bad. That's pretty much how all of my goon games go so maybe I'm the real wild card.

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

beejay posted:

First Overwatch map didn't work out let's make another one!
I've only experienced Hanamura through old videos and brawls, why is it so universally despised?

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Gobbeldygook posted:

I've only experienced Hanamura through old videos and brawls, why is it so universally despised?

Comparatively to other maps, it is confusing, poorly explained and difficult to figure out what to do when.

I personally hate it because of the way pushing works on it being really badly balanced. At least it's like the one map I can play TLV on.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Every time I play with Goons there's always one person like super obsessively shot calling but his calls aren't any better than everyone just doing what they were doing anyways and his observations even when correct aren't particular useful things like "we are definitely going to lose here because we didn't draft X" and then we don't and rally. I'm not sure if I'm crazy or if this is always just tcjimbo, but it feels like this always happens with or without jimbo's presence.

When I shot call it's pretty much "move directionally Up/Down/Left/Right and I can keep you alive in 3 seconds" or "I can keep everyone alive, please kill them all" while playing a technically flawless support game and I find that usually helps out a lot more than complaints disguised as calls.

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

TheLawinator posted:

I remember playing with tcjimbo and having him talk about how we didn't have enough wave clear for the whole game then he rage quit. We went again as 4 and drafted 4 specialists and had our pub last pick garrosh. We won that game so hard it was insane. Tcjimbo is a genius.

That one was fun.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Gobbeldygook posted:

I've only experienced Hanamura through old videos and brawls, why is it so universally despised?

It's possible for there to be four objectives active at the same time, on top of all of the other usual map distractions (mercs, boss, pushing lanes) and in its original incarnation it was actively detrimental to even bother with the carts until you had built up shots by knocking down forts. And even in the rare instance where you might fight over a cart, they neither move fast enough nor move through varied enough terrain to create any kind of interesting tension.

In a greater sense, they basically cargo-culted the concept of "push cart to point" but completely missed why that design works, or more the point why payload maps are linear attack/defend in nature. The payload Brawl map works far better because it's exactly that, even if I don't like that much either.

Also, Hanamura isn't even a goddamn payload map in OW.

Edit: Oh, and the merc camps work completely different from every other map in the game for Reasons, granting powerful active items to use and most notably featuring a mini-boss camp that can be captured with a single bribe stack which gives a huge chunk of XP. Combined with the the carts being useless until you stocked up shots, it warped the entire metagame of the map around hard pushing and each team absolutely had to have a bribe hero.

The second pass they made to the map made things slightly less poo poo but in the process they inexplicably removed the siege bomb minions. I guess in an attempt to depower hard pushing...while still granting more core shots for taking down forts so... But what that actually meant is that if one team got sufficiently ahead, it was possible for them to be dickheads and lock the opposing team into the game because the map would never eventually self-terminate.

John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Sep 15, 2017

beejay
Apr 7, 2002

Seebach posted:

So its going to be a Varian Wrynn skin. I think the Arm is Raynor's armor though right?

The ground is most likely Volskaya Framework, the cobble steps are probably a lead up to the nexus starting point?

What picture are you looking at and/or are you inebriated?

Yukari
Feb 17, 2011

"That's going in the cringe reel for sure."


John Murdoch posted:

The second pass they made to the map made things slightly less poo poo but in the process they inexplicably removed the siege bomb minions. I guess in an attempt to depower hard pushing...while still granting more core shots for taking down forts so... But what that actually meant is that if one team got sufficiently ahead, it was possible for them to be dickheads and lock the opposing team into the game because the map would never eventually self-terminate.

Adding to this, the other map that would have this issue (Towers of Doom), ends up not having the issue because they have the tunnel that leads to the center, and 3 lanes that you can leave from, and that if you happen to take all 3 towers, you will die eventually from the total control bombardment. Whereas with Hanamura, you have two exits that can be guarded and you can literally be stuck and spawn-camped.

TheLawinator
Apr 13, 2012

Competence on the battlefield is a myth. The side which screws up next to last wins, it's as simple as that.

Libertine posted:

Every time I play with Goons there's always one person like super obsessively shot calling but his calls aren't any better than everyone just doing what they were doing anyways and his observations even when correct aren't particular useful things like "we are definitely going to lose here because we didn't draft X" and then we don't and rally. I'm not sure if I'm crazy or if this is always just tcjimbo, but it feels like this always happens with or without jimbo's presence.

Nah that's jimbo.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO

Seebach posted:

So its going to be a Varian Wrynn skin. I think the Arm is Raynor's armor though right?

The ground is most likely Volskaya Framework, the cobble steps are probably a lead up to the nexus starting point?

I bet that's the mid boss on Hanamura and we're going to have to play that map again in exchange for a techno Varian skin :(

Seebach
Jul 14, 2012

NeurosisHead posted:

I bet that's the mid boss on Hanamura and we're going to have to play that map again in exchange for a techno Varian skin :(

Then it is an impossible skin to get.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Mind over Matter posted:

If you make someone play with tcjimbo you're not their friend.

Actually, the first game was fine. Me, tcjimbo, and the rage quitter were 3 queued and on Discord, but the rage quitter doesn't have a mic so he was just listening. Our team played really well, there wasn't much chatter, and we won handily.

Game 2 was the same setup, we played okay, which meant jimbo gave some commentary along the way. Quitter said it was annoying, but was difficult to say how pissed he was via his short messages.

Game 3, however, we went 5-stack so there was much more Discord chatter, and thus more jimbo chatter. Someone asks what we meant by goons. I told him it was a community of chill duders, though tcjimbo was more of an educational experience. Jimbo comments that he's been playing MOBAs since 2004 or 2005, so he just feels like he knows what's up. Game starts, we were winning pretty easily, until around level 13 when on the way to a successful boss sneak the jimbo got to be too much which lead to rage quitting, after which we lost.

To put it another way,

Summer, wins, and peace
Autumn brings the jimbo out
Creeping cold and rage

TheLawinator
Apr 13, 2012

Competence on the battlefield is a myth. The side which screws up next to last wins, it's as simple as that.

2004 isn't even that special come on man Aeon of Strife came out in 02 get good.

Samu
Jan 11, 2010

The only thing I hate more than hippie neo-liberal fascists and anarchists are the hypocrite fat cat suits they grow up to become.
Jimbo bitched for almost 15 minutes about not taking the correct mercs at the correct time when I was playing as Sonya. I said going into the game that I like Sonya but I don't know the merc timings and I'm trying to get better with her. Then I told him he needs to be more polite if he wants people to do the stuff he wants, and I tried to explain that I have a different skill level than him and that I'm just trying to have fun, not execute some game plan I don't know.

Later in SAGOONS he told me to kill myself.

:smith:

TheLawinator
Apr 13, 2012

Competence on the battlefield is a myth. The side which screws up next to last wins, it's as simple as that.

I haven't had the same outright hostile experiences yall have had with jimbo but maybe that's because i'm a lowly level 100 and he takes pity on me for not knowing any better.

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

i played with goons once and i think that jimbo guy was there. he said he wouldn't do HL because he's real particular about who he teams with, so i said like "la dee da mr fancy pants". he ranted for like 5 minutes about how good he is or whatever and then i got a message about someone blocking me.

RevolverDivider
Nov 12, 2016

tcjimbo is literally insane and you are too if you willingly subject yourself to him.

Gustav
Jul 12, 2006

This is all very confusing. Do you mind if I call you Rodriguez?
Never play with goons.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
I can't wait for technodemon varian's version of the "HUARGH" scream.

tcjimbo
May 15, 2008

This is Jimbo!
Hey-hey, man!
We got this!
yall need to get laid

just bob
Sep 6, 2017

by Reene
I can't have sex without tcjimbo calling shots

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010
"What are you doing in that lane? You need to go for objectives. I wouldn't have bothered coming if I knew you were going to waste my time like this." :pervert:

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Oh my god. I have a friend who invited me to a group of 4. Riiiight after the queue pops one of them says "ohhh poo poo man we shouldn't have done cocaine today bro". Two of them were tweaking out, YELLING on Discord the whole game. Most of it was "FOCUS X!" where X was whichever hero was closest the whole time, or "It's okay, I just got <talent> we're going to start 110% wrecking them!" One of them said they never go Taunt varian, so make sure to pick another tank. I say "that's okay, can you go Smash?" and he says sure.

Sure enough, once we finally get 10, he goes Twin Blades.

What I'm saying is, the War on Drugs is justified.

von Metternich
May 7, 2007
Why the hell not?
So how do I do Chromie? I get like, twenty stacks of the Sand quest and ten of the dragon one, and die like twenty times per match. I assume that's not the way to do it.

tcjimbo
May 15, 2008

This is Jimbo!
Hey-hey, man!
We got this!

von Metternich posted:

So how do I do Chromie? I get like, twenty stacks of the Sand quest and ten of the dragon one, and die like twenty times per match. I assume that's not the way to do it.

Draft a solid Frontline and shoot your poo poo towards the mass of people while far away. If a nerd is near you, holler on voice for some peel and make sure time traps are near you. If there is a genji, pray he doesn't find you.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Go into Try mode and practice landing shots after time trap. Timing is always the same, and with the staggered windups you can have both hit at the same time.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


BrianBoitano posted:

Go into Try mode and practice landing shots after time trap. Timing is always the same, and with the staggered windups you can have both hit at the same time.

For time traps, you want to use Dragon's Breath when the circle is a quarter depleted, and sandblasts at half I believe.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the one time i joined goon discord, i said hello and some dude started whining about never winning and seemed to talk about offing himself, i said goodbye and he told me to shut the gently caress up.

i don't join hotsgoons anymore.

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

von Metternich posted:

So how do I do Chromie? I get like, twenty stacks of the Sand quest and ten of the dragon one, and die like twenty times per match. I assume that's not the way to do it.

Always have a time trap out. Don't solo lane. Get good at predicting enemy movements. Make the enemy pick between getting hit with some sand or wasting time running serpentine patterns if they want to get anywhere. Use your ult to create a no-man's land to prevent the enemy from approaching you or retreating depending on the situation. You want to be so far away from the action that diving you requires getting out of range of their own support. If someone dives on you, you have three choices:

1) Lead them into a time trap (which you have out, right?) and then combo the poo poo out of them.
2) Alt-W while running away (they'll end up in the middle of it) and hit them with a Q. This might not be enough to kill them, but it should be enough to get them to back off if your team is in striking distance (unless they're going for a 1-for-1 trade, in which case :shrug: ).
3) Ok, bye.

Drythe
Aug 26, 2012


 
have you guys ever tried gitting gud? then jimbo wouldnt have anything to say to you

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Drythe posted:

have you guys ever tried gitting gud? then jimbo wouldnt have anything to say to you

Jimbo told me I was the best Cho he had ever seen. Then my internet disconnected for about 2 minutes and when I got back he told me that I should quit so the AI could come back.

Then he quit the party.

jimbo is Tsundere ~ツンデレ

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





BrianBoitano posted:

Oh my god. I have a friend who invited me to a group of 4. Riiiight after the queue pops one of them says "ohhh poo poo man we shouldn't have done cocaine today bro". Two of them were tweaking out, YELLING on Discord the whole game. Most of it was "FOCUS X!" where X was whichever hero was closest the whole time, or "It's okay, I just got <talent> we're going to start 110% wrecking them!" One of them said they never go Taunt varian, so make sure to pick another tank. I say "that's okay, can you go Smash?" and he says sure.

Sure enough, once we finally get 10, he goes Twin Blades.

What I'm saying is, the War on Drugs is justified.

These stories make me very happy with my current break from the game.

Ronnie
May 13, 2009

Just in case.
Some of you guys sound like sadists.

Do

Not

Play

With

tcjimbo!

Indecisive
May 6, 2007


Ronnie posted:

Some of you guys sound like sadists.

Do

Not

Play

With

tcjimbo!

beejay
Apr 7, 2002

Nephzinho posted:

These stories make me very happy with my current break from the game.

Here's what makes me very happy with my current break from the game:

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Firebat, Ana, Junkrat, Alexstrasza.

https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/908374937294876672

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/21033994

a witch
Jan 12, 2017

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



I remember getting GM #55 in season 1 and as soon as jimbo noticed he was all over my balls all the time wanting me to team league with him

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Star
Jul 15, 2005

Guerilla war struggle is a new entertainment.
Fallen Rib
He should clearly play with me. Finally got my first QM win as ETC after 12 games.

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