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Pomp and Circumcized posted:With the dashboard and heater core out, I can replace the missing/cut carpet with a full carpet. It's annoying how the carpet tucks under the HVAC system, requiring hours of work to remove it. If the car had been complete, I imagine that the coolant (and maybe AC) would need to be drained to do this. Mazda did this on the first and second gen RX-7s as well. Most of us just cut the carpet as far under the box as possible, which is usually out of site, and pull it out that way. Unless you've already got it apart, like you did. I like your style - fix all the things first, then you know it's fixed.
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Please tell me you aren't putting a Ford v6 in it. 
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Sep 8, 2017 22:43
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Please tell me you ARE putting the ford v6 in it.
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Sep 9, 2017 06:47
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You are doing good work. I love your posts 
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Sep 9, 2017 07:48
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A bit of a weird question, but that looks like it is set-up for 2+2seats, was that an option on fd's? I've only seen two seaters here in America. I used to have an fc with the 2+2 and liked it and now that I have growing kids a 2+2 fd could really fit the bill.
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Bibendum posted:A bit of a weird question, but that looks like it is set-up for 2+2seats, was that an option on fd's? I've only seen two seaters here in America. I used to have an fc with the 2+2 and liked it and now that I have growing kids a 2+2 fd could really fit the bill. Yes, many came with back seats. Complete with more legroom that you could possible imagine! https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/do-rx7s-have-back-seats-467611/ I'm not sure on how many came with rear seats vs storage bins, I'll be putting seats back in mine as that's what it's already set up for, and for the comedy. As for the growing kids - if they've grown past the age of 5, and you are more than 5' tall yourself, then it's unlikely that the rear seats will be of much use!
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Sep 10, 2017 18:18
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Larrymer posted:Please tell me you aren't putting a Ford v6 in it. Cop Porn Popper posted:Please tell me you ARE putting the ford v6 in it. This might be quite a controversial post. I've been talking to a guy today who owns a garage full of JDM cars, mostly Silvias and RX7s. We spoke about engines at length, and he mentioned that he had a motor which might fit the bill for my ride. What does SA think about this? I know it's probably quite a controversial choice for an RX7? Edit: It's not a loving Ford V6 (if anyone wants to buy a Ford V6 mated to a FE 6-speed, let me know...)  I've not decided if I want to go this route, or choose something a little more sensible. But the price is about right for what's included, and I think I'm ready to descend one step further into the madness of these machines. Pomp and Circumcized fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Sep 10, 2017 |
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Sep 10, 2017 18:24
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:What does SA think about this? I know it's probably quite a controversial choice for an RX7?  Unless it was a ford ecoboost v6, that would be ok then too. I think what you're looking at is a fine choice given that you can't get cheap and plentiful LS motors there. You seem to like working on cars, so that will probably keep your hobby going.
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Sep 10, 2017 22:41
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Do it. It's not like 13bt parts are getting thin on the ground yet. According to my mate the apex seals 'problem' on big boost builds is 'solved' now (his FC has moved on to popping difs and gearboxes now instead). What's the E85 situation like in the Motherland?
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Thanks guys. I'm falling in love with this car really quickly...I spent a long time looking for a shell so that I could put in any engine I choose, but now I realise that this particular motor will give me a cool, fun project car with good power potential (the motor pictured is built for fahv hunnert), and still itch my fabrication/modification bug, especially as the cooling system, engine electrics, etc, need to be done from scratch, and I can spec them how I choose.Don Dongington posted:What's the E85 situation like in the Motherland? Nonexistant, as far as I know. 
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Sep 11, 2017 00:10
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:
That's a drat shame. A lot of the big power rotor builders are doing E85 fuel systems here in aus now, because it's so much easier to tune for bug boost/big turbo. My friend's has the GTX35 and it's super responsive for a big turbo. There's another guy with an RX4 I think running a GTX40 so sky's the limit, if you can fuel it. Starting fresh with a big single setup will be so much less painful than dealing with the sequential nightmare, too.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:33
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Don Dongington posted:Starting fresh with a big single setup will be so much less painful than dealing with the sequential nightmare, too. My options are: 1) Buy that rebuilt motor with the turbo and downpipe and bolt everything else on 2) Buy a stock motor, convert to single 3) Buy a questionable/blown motor, rebuild, add a single turbo. Option 1 looks to be the best, but I a was after a 300-350hp motor, not a 450+hp motor.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:59
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Get an ECU with scramble boost, then it'll be a 350hp motor until you decide you want a 450hp motor and plus you get a cool red button you can tell people not to push. Or you could just sell the turbo and get a smaller one... Nahhhh. Do the first thing. Running a motor built for 450 on a safer tune with more fuel and less boost will almost certainly result in a more reliable and trustworthy experience.
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Sep 11, 2017 01:11
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:Option 1 looks to be the best, but I a was after a 300-350hp motor, not a 450+hp motor. From reading spyder's threads, I'd be very wary of rebuilds on rotaries. Sounds like a lot of potential for gently caress ups. What do you know about that build and builder? I'd personally rather have a stock motor to rebuild yourself/pick your builder vs. getting an unknown quantity.
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Sep 11, 2017 01:27
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Don Dongington posted:Do it. It's not like 13bt parts are getting thin on the ground yet. According to my mate the apex seals 'problem' on big boost builds is 'solved' now (his FC has moved on to popping difs and gearboxes now instead). 13bt? That's a lot. 4bt is enough bt for anyone! 
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Sep 11, 2017 02:19
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No one here will fault you for doing anything you want. You've become a certified car expert stripping and building these Soarers you do you man.
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Sep 11, 2017 05:14
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I mean if a 1UZ would fit I'd say loving do that. But it's a really wide motor, needs boost to make any power and and not really worthwhile for the application in general. Plus rotors are fun as gently caress to wind out when you're used to driving land boate built for cruisin'.
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Sep 11, 2017 10:47
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FDs are such pretty cars, give it triangles and make it scream Pomp. How fast will it rev?
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Sep 11, 2017 11:19
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Depends on who rebuilt that, IMO? Unless it's very ported, 350whp vs 500whp is mostly just a matter of turbo sizing and boost level. I'm given to understand that 350whp is pretty thoroughly figured out in TYOOL 2017 and should be relatively reliable even on premium unleaded. I've also seen some people advocating water/meth plus pumpgas instead of E85 as there's some question about what premix oils work with E85. Mind you, I'm a rotary guy but not a turbo rotary guy, so things I'm saying particular to boosted ones are secondhand.
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Now you're talking. When I have a bit more time I'll give a quick brain dump of the off-the-shelf parts for a ~400whp FD.
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Yeah, listen to him. Last time I looked into 13Bs of that power level with turbos, 60-1/P-trim turbos were the proven setup and GT35Rs were the new hot thing.
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everdave posted:No one here will fault you for doing anything you want. You've become a certified car expert stripping and building these Soarers you do you man. The great part is that he's effectively tamed these nightmare future cars into stable daily drivers and now this project is considered the risky project. We're well past the looking glass here Pomp, don't stop now.
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:Hah, I was originally thinking about doing a YouTube series on it I wholeheartedly approve of this. For any of your projects, rust included.
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Holy poo poo, lots of replies. The rotary love is still strong around here Larrymer posted:From reading spyder's threads, I'd be very wary of rebuilds on rotaries. Sounds like a lot of potential for gently caress ups. What do you know about that build and builder? This is what I'd prefer to do. I'd much rather spend 2k on a good stock engine that needs a rebuild, than 4k on a built engine, as where's the fun in that? Of course, the risk is me loving up my first rotary build, vs buying a poorly built rotary. The seller is a very reputable member of the RX7 community in the UK, but I would still ask for all the facts and a compression test before buying. mekilljoydammit posted:Depends on who rebuilt that, IMO? I'm not a huge horsepower junkie - I love to drive my cars as they were intended, and adding 200hp to the motor isn't going to increase the fun factor for me. I've never enjoyed driving on a racetrack, I'd much prefer to just feel like a baller cruising in a loudish brap-brappy RX7 while occasionally shooting flames, than getting to 60mph 1 second quicker. So yes, 350whp on a well built rotary with a lazy amount of boost, with a turbo that spools up readily, would be perfect for me. The turbo on the engine I pictured is almost as big as the drat motor ritself! :p cakesmith handyman posted:FDs are such pretty cars, give it triangles and make it scream Pomp. How fast will it rev? I do love the sound and the revviness of those motors. Kinda the opposite to a 1UZ, which would be a nice change . As for rev limit, I believe it's limited by your ignition system, and that having a strong ignition system is key to long engine life. I'd likely keep it to the stock rev limit.everdave posted:No one here will fault you for doing anything you want. You've become a certified car expert stripping and building these Soarers you do you man. A certified Soarer expert, maybe :p. RX7's are completely new to me, and I'm entering a new world of brittle interior plastics. Which is great, as it offers so much more that I can learn. 5 years from now I'll probably have a small pile of broken FDs in my garden, and I'll move onto something else :p the spyder posted:Now you're talking. When I have a bit more time I'll give a quick brain dump of the off-the-shelf parts for a ~400whp FD. Please do! I love your thread, I think your thread was partly responsible for my interest in FDs :p. Though I always skipped over the 13B build posts as I never thought I'd be interested in owning a 13B RX7, which is kinda good because now I can go back and re-read it all Don Dongington posted:I mean if a 1UZ would fit I'd say loving do that. 1UZs are great, but I already have 2 1UZ cars, and yes, they are big and that compact v6 required me to hack the poo poo out of an RX8 to fit, so I dread to think what people have to do to a RX7 to get a 1UZ in. [posts that picture of a 1UZ next to a LS1 for the shock value] BoostCreep posted:I wholeheartedly approve of this. For any of your projects, rust included. The issue is that I work away from home for long periods - I may only be home for one or two days per month. I know that filming project work makes everything take longer unless you really do a n-fucks-given shaky cellphone camera job of "i did this and now im doing that". I had been meanign to write that post about the latest UZZ32 since June, I've only just had enough time to sort the pictures, upload, organise into the post, and write the text. I might see about doing the odd clip here and there, maybe a walkaround of the car every time I do some work so you can see what I've been up to reticently.
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Bibendum posted:A bit of a weird question, but that looks like it is set-up for 2+2seats, was that an option on fd's? I've only seen two seaters here in America. I used to have an fc with the 2+2 and liked it and now that I have growing kids a 2+2 fd could really fit the bill. Not only were the FDs available with rear seats (though approximately none made it to the US), SA/FBs and FCs were, too. More of those made it stateside. I have a '90 with rear seats. As with the FD, they are hilariously useless.
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Darchangel posted:they are hilariously useless. The bucket design of the FD rear seats look like they'd be quite useful at keeping bags of groceries from rolling around when you drift back from the store.
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:The bucket design of the FD rear seats look like they'd be quite useful at keeping bags of groceries from rolling around when you drift back from the store. Well, yeah, probably. FCs are the same way, though not quite as deep, I think. I can actually sit back there, just, you know, not with anyone in the front seat. Or the front seat actually latched upright.
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I think I'm going to need to ask about renaming this thread. I've got 2 Soarers still, both of which need work, but this thread is no longer solely a Soarer thread. Also I've had my name changed since then. Any name suggestions?
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Yeah, I owned an FC with them and they turned it into a useful 3 seater if the passengers were modest size although I nearly broke my brothers neck going over a bump once. Living in the states I'd never seen an FD with them but after looking at more pics it looks like Pomp is right, if my daughter was behind me and my son behind my wife it might work for a little while but not long. I guess maybe a 1-series BMW is in my future.  I got no ideas for thread names but thanks for posting, you give me hope that I'll be able to put my interior back together with only a few broken tabs.
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:Any name suggestions? It should probably include "foreskin" in the title, given your new name. And that F could be part of FD. I'm drawing a blank beyond that, though.
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Larrymer posted:It should probably include "foreskin" in the title, given your new name. And that F could be part of FD. I'm drawing a blank beyond that, though. ..."-Now with added Foreskin Dilemmas"
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Not bad. Doesn't really get to the meat... er, capsulize the contents, though.
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Darchangel posted:Not bad. Doesn't really get to the meat... er, capsulize the contents, though. Foreskin Disasters. This poor thread.
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:Foreskin Disasters: Stories about half off day Sorry. continue.
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Is this a horrible, horrible idea? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302445486409 Not a fan of the idea of "resurfacing" rotor housings, surely the increased clearance will negatively affect the engine. The porting looks like a 5 year old did it. No idea if a 20B will fit in a FD without modifying the subframe and engine bay. I don't need the power output of a 20B, this would be purely for the adventure and uniqueness :p I'm thinking of passing on the 13B posted above. The AR70 compressor housing looks to be much larger than I'd need. The seller admitted it would take a long time to spool. Rebuilt 4k miles ago, the seller recommended changing the water jacket as it had been sitting for "a while". Not sure what that would mean for the condition of the irons and rotors if the motor had been sitting. It has a port but the seller isn't sure what kind. There are receipts, etc from a reputable supplier who carried out the rebuild. I think if I'm going to buy a motor that I'm not 100% on the status of, I should just get a cheap blown motor or one that would likely need a rebuild, and go from there. Anyway, 20B parts auction runs out soon. Thoughts?
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It's probably a better idea, as you say whatever you buy has unknowns, why not build it yourself and get rid of those unknowns whilst learning? I vote 20B.
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:Is this a horrible, horrible idea? I can guess who that seller is. It's probably the chap who runs MX5 Motors / "Hayward Rotaries North". I used to go to him to look after my MX5, until one day he left the top bolts off my suspension and I drove a hundred miles cross-country that morning before he realised. Nice chap but there were usually little errors when I used him and that was the last straw for me. My mate and I stopped going to him after that. meltie fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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meltie posted:I can guess who that seller is. It's probably the chap who runs Hayward Rotaries North. I used to go to him to look after my MX5, until one day he left the top bolts off my suspension and I drove a hundred miles cross-country that morning before he realised. (if it's not him then it's MX5 City that's selling that and I have no idea wtf they're doing with rotary bits)
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If you're looking to have rotor housings refinished, consider contacting goopy performance. The shipping might be cost prohibitive, but they are a really well known name in the rotary community. As for quality, you'd have to ask someone like spyder who may have experience with them. I unfortunately still have yet to own a vehicle with a spinning dorito in it.
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You can't resurface rotor housings. you can clean them up a little bit, but generally if the plating is damaged it's an ornament. Many people say they can do it, but they're not going to warranty the rest of the expense of a rotor rebuild or probably even their product. If it was easily possible then 12a parts wouldn't be rare-ish. Even if you build a rotor, your best bet is finding good factory housings rather than repair. (even goopy that cop porn popper mentioned stipulated they do not refinish housings, they just refurbish - whatever that means (find good s/h ones and clean up a bit? what happens spyder?) The end plates/irons is some thing else, people refinish them all the time
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