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Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

Never felt at home in reality
Always hiding behind avatars


nine-gear crow posted:

No, titles are beyond one's control so they don't count towards the tax. Though I appreciate you trying to get Sally and Fedule to turn on me, however.

Just trying to take a page from your book and cause infighting

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6rjCK3-ZA8&t=79s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhZZqWdVruI


You see, its about a girl who dies, so she becomes an angel, and she was just dancing so....

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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
Heavy Command Cruiser

Mission 9: Operation Dead Sea – February 20th, 2016


Overview: The time has arrived. Emmerian Intelligence has located the Estovakian P-1112 Aigaion heavy command cruiser, and uncovered a critical flaw in its design. Garuda, Windhover, Avalanche, and Sky Kid Teams are dispatched to an intercept point in the Fuscum Sea to ambush and destroy the Aigaion.



Guest Commentator: I am joined for this hands-down singular best Ace Combat level ever by the sparkly one himself, Herr Tog. And anyone who doesn’t think this mission is the best thing the franchise has ever done, I will personally fight. Got it?






FENIKS
Real Name: Lorenz Riedel
Callsign(s): Gault 7, Feniks
Age: 48
Sex: Male
Nationality: Belka
Signature Plane: Su-47 Berkut, Su-33 Flanker-D
Voice Actor: None

They turn up in the strangest places, don’t they?

Among other things, Lorenz Riedel is the designer and chief engineer of the Estovakian Air Force’s Aerial Fleet, consisting of the P-1112 Aigaion Heavy Command Cruiser, the P-1113 Kottos Electronic Warfare Cruisers, and the P-1114 Gyges Heavy Assault Cruisers. But Riedel isn’t some run of the mill Estovakian aeronautical genius—in fact he isn’t even Estovakian—but one of the world’s most wanted war criminals. An evil genius’s evil genius.

When we last crossed paths with Riedel, he was flying for his homeland in the Belkan War in the unassuming, utterly inconspicuous role of Gault 7, the second-lowest post on Dr. Anton Kupchenko’s Gault Squadron. Despite being Kupchenko’s long-time apprentice, both in the South Belka Munitions Factory and the Belkan Air Force, his closeness to the Golden Woodpecker earned him no favours or special treatment from Kupchenko, as evidenced by his low standing on Gault’s original roster.

After the Seven Pillars nuclear strike on the Belkan heartland by Waldmarr Rald’s government, Riedel joined Kupchenko along with the rest of Gault Team as he formed the terrorist organization A World With No Boundaries, joining Kupchenko’s leadership team alongside the likes of Joshua Bristow, Anthony Palmer, and Lawrence Foulke. Between the June 6th nuke strike and AWWNB’s first strike against the Allied Forces on Christmas Day of 1995, Riedel was put in charge of the reactivation of the SBMF’s abandoned XB-0 Hresvelgr heavy command cruiser, meant to be the centerpiece of AWWNB’s military power and its mobile command center.

In getting the XB-0 skyworthy again, Riedel was able to reverse engineer his mentor’s masterwork, and was able to take copies of its blueprints (stolen from the SMBF by AWWNB members before the firm’s feigned shuttering) into exile with him following AWWNB’s defeat on New Year’s Eve of 1995. It was this experience and his apprentice work under Kupchenko’s wing that allowed him to design the Aigaion heavy command cruiser and her sister ships for the Estovakian Eastern Faction.

As other members of AWWNB prepared to launch their stolen V2 MIRV against Osea, Sapin, Ustio, and other Allied Forces member states, Riedel and the rest of Gault Team followed Kupchenko into the B7R Roundtable mountains near the Belkan border in order to intercept and destroy the Demon Lord Cipher and his wingman Galm 2 PJ before they could reach the Avalon Dam complex and stop the V2 launch. While the majority of Gault Team, including Kupchenko himself, were killed in the engagement, Riedel survived his encounter with the Demon Lord and bailed out over B7R. With his status as a war criminal and terrorist agent about to become public knowledge after the UAF AWACS Eagle Eye reported the encounter with Gault to Allied Command, Riedel went into hiding rather than return to Belka.

As the South Belka Munitions Factory reformed itself into North Osea Gründer Industries the following year, Riedel remained in the shadows for the rest of the 90s and early 00s. He was spotted in Oured by Osean authorities at some point during this time, but he slipped away before they could apprehend him.

Rumor has it he spent the next decade hopping the globe acting as a black market arms dealer to various unstable nations such as Sotoa, East Clavis, Leasath, and Erusea until 2007. During the Estovakian Civil War, he approached Eastern Faction leader General Gustav Dvornik with the designs for a further upgraded version of the XB-0 Hresvelgr platform, a battlecruiser he dubbed “Aigaion.” Seeing the Aigaion as the key to victory over the Lyes United Front in the war, Dvornik accepted Riedel’s offer and put him to work constructing his new “Aerial Battle Fleet” with whatever funds and materials he could spare from the general war effort.

Construction of the fleet would take six years to finish.

Yet, when the Aigaion and her sisters took to the sky alongside the Strigon and Vampire Teams, they turned the tide against the LUF in an instant, and their overwhelming power helped the EF crush the majority of Lyes’s forces in under a week. When Dvornik formed his post-war government, The Generals, he rewarded Riedel handsomely from the spoils of the EF’s victory and promised other incentives to secure his continued loyalty and service to Estovakia, including potential plundered treasures from his next target: the Republic of Emmeria.

In his later years, however, Riedel inherited his old mentor’s obsessive-compulsive and micro-managerial tendencies, especially when it came to his prized creation. Riedel insisted on being aboard the Aigaion and overseeing its operations every time she was in the air, much to the consternation of her actual command crew.

During the Emmerian surprise attack on the Aigaion, Riedel remained on the cruiser until the last possible minute, abandoning the airship only after it became certain the ship was doomed. He flew off the Aigaion’s flight deck in an EAF Special Operations Su-33 and attempted to shoot down Garuda 1 Talisman and Garuda 2 Shamrock, who had been identified as the ones leading the attack on the Aigaion to avenge his fallen creation. He was instead shot down and killed by Talisman over the Galva Islands, finally accomplishing what Cipher failed to do 20 years ago.

Picture of Dimitri Yuriev from Xenosaga mildly unrelated.



PASTERNAK
Real Name: Ilya Pasternak
Callsign(s): Strigon 1
Age: 37
Sex: Male
Nationality: Estovakia
Signature Plane: Su-33 Flanker-D, [INFORMATION REDACTED]
Voice Actor: Steve Van Wormer

The Ladies Man.

In the wake of Victor Voychek’s injury and grounding by Estovakian Command, Ilya Pasternak was given control over all Strigon Team operations for the foreseeable duration of the Emmeria-Estovakia War. However, political bureaucratic concerns kept him in the Estovakian homeland for much of the war while Strigon functionally operated under the command of Darijo Kovac in the Emmerian theater.

With the death of Kovac and the destruction of the P-1112 Aigaion, Pasternak has been sent to Gracemeria by Dvornik and the Generals to take full command of Strigon in an effort to stem the mounting losses suffered by the EAF as the Emmerian forces, led by Garuda Team, press back towards the capital. Though sources close to Estovakian command claim he was ordered to Gracemeria personally by Supreme Commander Dvornik specifically to face Garuda Team and Garuda 1 Talisman in combat, most likely in response to the death of Dvornik’s daughter Irena at Garuda’s hands above Silvat.

With Irena gone, the EAF couldn’t hope for a more perfect poster boy for their efforts in Emmeria. Even before he assumed command of Strigon Team, Pasternak was one of the air force’s most highly decorated officers, just under his mentor Voychek in terms of honours and accreditations. During the Estovakian Civil War, he was awarded the Golden Medal of Marksmanship, among other commendations, for his service to the Eastern Faction.

During the war, he flew as Vampire 1, the leader of the EAF’s dreaded Vampire Team, an offshoot of Voychek’s Strigon Team. Together with Strgion, Vampire Team dealt many crushing blows against the Lyes United Front and its competitor factions, ultimately helping the Eastern Faction claim victory and assume complete control over the Federal Republic. After the war, Strigon and Vampire Teams were merged into a single unit, with Pasternak reporting directly to Voychek, despite running what was functionally an entirely separate squadron.

As a person, Pasternak is a model of humility, warmth, and professionalism. Despite his proclamation of hatred for Garuda Team, in truth there isn’t a hateful bone in his body. If Victor Voychek is a proud father to the men under his command, then Ilya Pasternak is the cool big brother, a different kind of mentor and authority figure, but still someone the younger and less experienced members of Strigon can turn to for stability.

With his deadly skill and commanding charisma, he will surely be a very dangerous opponent for Garuda and the Emmerians now that he has entered the fray.



Along with Voychek, Pasternak basically forms the other half of Ace Combat 6’s Yellow 13 analog. While Voychek is the aloof father figure side of 13, Pasternak is the deadly enduring rival side of 13. Only, as you’ve probably tweaked to by now, neither of them actually connect the way OG 13 does because the other half of those signifiers don’t exist in 6. There is no one there for Voychek to form a fatherly bond with, and despite his endearing arival and proclamation of hated rivalry with Garuda, we only encounter him in combat once, as opposed to how Mobius 1 and Yellow 13 make each others lives miserable all across Shattered Skies.





HECATONCHEIRES

Literally the “Hundred-handed ones”. The Hecatoncheires were a trio of sea giants from Greek mythology consisting of Kottos, Gyges, and their leader Briareos—or more pointedly, Aegaeon. They were the children of the Titans Gaea (Earth) and Uranus (Sky), and helped to overthrow the Titans during the Titanomachy, where Zeus and the Olympians defeated his father Cronus and the Titans and imprisoned them in Tartarus, the gates of which Hecatoncheires became the guards of to ensure the Titans never escaped again.

Aegaeon ultimately became the namesake of the Aegean Sea, the arm of the Mediterranean Sea separating the Greek peninsula from from the Anatolian peninsula in Turkey.


Aside from here in Ace Combat, the Hecatoncheires have seen references in other video game series like Final Fantasy. A boss pallet swap called Kottos appears as an enemy in Final Fantasy X, and the Eidolon summon of Oerba Dia Vanille from Final Fantasy XIII is Hecatoncheir, notable for its numerous arms and hands.





AIGAION

The next evolution of the SBMF’s XB-0 Hresvelgr heavy command cruiser, and flagship of the Estovakian Air Force’s “Aerial Fleet”.

Constructed over the course of 6 years by the then-Eastern Faction of the Estovakian Civil War, the P-1112 Aigaion became the EF’s trump card in their war with Lyes United Front, and the latest reminder to the world that the ghosts of Belka will never truly stay quiet, thanks her lead designer, Belkan ex-pat war criminal Lorenz Riedel, and his team of Belkan engineers, most of them headhunted from North Osea Gründer Industries both before, and especially after the Circum-Pacific War between the Osean Federation and the Union of Yuktobanian Republics.

Measuring over twice the size of the original XB-0 prototype, the P-1112 Aigaion was, before its destruction, the single largest man made aircraft ever to take to the skies. The Osean Federation's Aerial Arsenal Ships, codenamed "Arsenal Bird", however, will ultimately eclipse the Aigaion in size once they are launched next year to defend the currently under construction International Space Elevator site at Selatapura. Held aloft by four massive thruster banks and an ingenious air frame design, the Aigaion, in theory, is capable of remaining in the air with up to three of the four engine blocks in a failure state. Even then, if all four engines suffered a catastrophic failure, the Aigaion could be glided to a deadstick landing with relative ease thanks to its redundant systems. The beveled underside of the Aigaion, resembling several ship hulls stacked together horizontally, belie its origins as a water-based craft. When not in the air, the Aigaion lands in the water and moves via an array of aquatic thrusters built into her ventral hull.

Precise details on the Aigaion’s inner workings are a closely guarded Estovakian state secret. Riedel made certain his masterwork’s blueprints were properly archived, as opposed to the XB-0 and other SBMF designs, which now permeate the global black markets. While the Aigaion relies on standard jet fuel to power its engines, Emmerian Intelligence speculates that its other systems are possibly handed by an internal nuclear reactor.

The Aigaion’s reliance on liquid fuel is ultimately its one fatal weakness. The vessel requires so much fuel to remain airborne that it needs to be refueled at least once a day by 6 dedicated EAF KC-10 Extender jets. During this midair refueling, the tankers block the Aigaion’s forward radar arrays while in UNREP position, effectively blinding the beast until they disengage. This leaves the Aigaion vulnerable to attack from an enemy daring enough to approach it from head on.

Among the Aigaion’s other features are a fully functional flight deck with CATOBAR system and hangar facility in its core, effectively making it the world’s only airborne aircraft carrier. The EAF’s Strigon Team is officially based off the Aigaion. All Strigon planes bear the tail marking AI, denoting the Aigaion as their home carrier, despite the Su-33 not being a carrier-based jet under normal circumstances. Using its catapult launch system and tow cables, any aircraft capable of fitting on its flight deck can in theory land and take off from the Aigaion.

In addition to its suite of point-defense anti-air cannons and missiles, the primary armament of the P-1112 Aigaion is her Nimbus burst missiles. Launched from a collection of silos on the dorsal side of her upper hull, the Nimbus cruise missiles can strike targets across a vast firing range, either guided remotely by tracking drones piloted from Aigaion, or dumb fired at close range against locally calculated firing coordinates. As Emmerian Intelligence has confirmed that the Aigaion is the only craft in the Estovakian arsenal capable of launching Nimbus missiles, with its destruction over the Fuscum Sea, the threat of the Nimbus against Emmeria has been ended for good.

All other air support and electronic warfare duties are handled by her sister ships, the P-1113 Kottos and the P-1114 Gyges.



KOTTOS

A pair of dedicated electronic support and jamming aircraft designed to function in tandem with the P-1112 Aigaion and P-1114 Gyges to enhance their combat capabilities and defend them from any possible enemy attack.

At roughly half the size of the Aigaion, the Kottos ESM cruisers are still the second largest currently existing self-propelled aircraft in the world, roughly equal in size to the original XB-0 Hresvelgr which they were based on partly.

Lacking any proper weaponry, the Kottos instead house a massive suite of electronic warfare systems inside their armored hulls. While the Gyges and Aigaion protect it with their AA weaponry and flack screens, the Kottos enhances their radar and electronic warfare systems by remotely handling the majority of their firing computer calculations and targeting coordination for the Nimbus systems. Its jammer arrays also disrupt enemy communications, radar functionality and missile lock ons to blut any potential attack on the Aigaion itself.

However, much like her sister ships, the Kottos crafts also require a generally prohibitive amount of fuel to keep aloft. While all five ships have seen increased flying time as of late by feeding off the captured Emmerian fuel reserves, their time as effective weapons for the Estovakians was diminishing as the Emmerians liberated more and more of their home territory and pushed them back into the resource-strapped Estovakian homeland. Though now that all five members of the Aerial Fleet have been destroyed, that point is quite moot.



GYGES

The two P-1114 Gyges battlecruisers were constructed from a pair of heavily modified P-1113 Kottos air frames. The electronic warfare systems were stripped away from the Gyges craft and in their place were installed hardpoints for mounting all manner of heavy air-to-ground and air-to-air ordinance.

While capable of bombarding ground targets on its own, the primary role of the Gyges is to defend the Aigaion and Kottos from any air attacks. While the heavily armed Gyges does present an intimidating show of force from afar, in close combat situations, its air-to-air capabilities ultimately proved insufficient to protect the fleet from an eventual attack as the Emmerian Air Force’s attack wing easily overwhelmed the two assault ships with a limited number of planes.

Despite their vast size, the Gyges were highly agile craft, capable of pulling high speed maneuvers in combat that neither the Aigaion nor Kottos were able to. A favored tactic of the Gyges commanders to defend their fellow ships was to intentionally ram attacking aircraft, using the reinforced bulk of the Gyges itself as a battering ram to splatter attacking planes against while taking comparatively minimal hull damage in return. During the Emmerian attack on the Aigaion, more planes were lost to impacts with the Gyges (accidental or intentional) than to any of the Aerial Fleet’s actual weaponry or to Strigon Team.






    #04
    Strigon 5
    Federiko Jarni
    33, Male, Estovakia
  • Plane: Su-33 Flanker-D
  • Mission 9
  • Spawn conditions: Lauches from the Aigaion shortly after the first mission update.

quote:

Estovakian Central Forces Precinct Air Force
370th Aviation Regiment, 9th Tactical Fighter Squadron

Federiko Jarni's years of real battle experience, training and simulations certified his position as a mentor of rookie Strigon pilots. Both of his wingmen were shot down by Emmerian forces while battling to defend the Aigaion. Although his team lost the battle, he continued an all out assault on the Garuda Team, recording the battle data until the moment of his defeat, it is said, for future generations of pilots to learn from.



    #05
    Strigon 2
    Darijo Kovac
    38, Male, Estovakia
  • Plane: Su-33 Flanker-D
  • Mission 9
  • Spawn conditions: Lauches from the Aigaion shortly after the first mission update.

quote:

Estovakian Central Forces Precinct Air Force
370th Aviation Regiment, 9th Tactical Fighter Squadron

Midway through the Estovakian Civil War, the Eastern Faction formed the Vampire Team through forceful integration of various insurgent ace pilots. Strigon Team's second in command, Ilya Pasternak, was assigned with leading the Vampire Team, while Darijo Kovac took his place as Strigon's number two. Kovac's stern attitude is said to have played a key role in holding the team together.

Strigon Team leader Lieutenant Commander Voychek's injuries sustained during the attack on Gracemeria, saw Kovac promoted again, to team leader. While defending the Aigaion, he, and two wingmen, were shot down by the Garuda Team.



    #21
    Feniks
    Lorenz Riedel
    48, Male, Belka
  • Plane: Su-33 Flanker-D
  • Mission 9
  • Spawn conditions: Lauches from the Aigaion after the final mission update, once every target except the Aigaion Cockpit has been destroyed. Only appears on Expert difficulty or higher.

quote:

Estovakian Central Forces Precinct Air Force
60th Aviation Regiment, 5th Tactical Fighter Squadron Leader

Born in the Principality of Belka, Lorenz Riedel is one of the several Belkan defectors to have helped create the Aigaion. Investigative reports claim that the military technology these defectors brought with them after being ousted from their homeland during the Belkan War, became the deciding factor in the outcome of the Estovakian Civil War. Details regarding the nature of the shared technology remain undetermined. He was shot down by Emmerian forces while defending the Aigaion.

Feniks is a unique Named Ace in many ways, as you can see in his Assault Record. He is our lone Belkan ace in the game, the only Assault Record associated with neither Emmeria or Estovakia. He’s one of a select group of characters who appear in more than one Ace Combat game, appearing as Gault 7 in Ace Combat Zero and then as Feniks here in Ace Combat 6. Barring non-canon material, he’s also one of only three characters who appear as a Named Ace in more than one Ace Combat (the other two being Ashley Bernitz (Grabacr) and Michael Heimeroth (Ofnir)). And lastly, Riedel is one of the few Named Aces who flies the iconic Su-27PD colours which made their debut in Ace Combat 2 on the game’s elite late-game enemies.

Riedel’s appearance in Fires of Liberation also marks our first ACTUAL callback to Ace Combat Zero that’s an actual callback rather than a retcon. It’s easy to forget, since we’ve gone in chronological order rather than release order, that Ace Combat 6 came out only one year after Ace Combat Zero did, meaning both games were in development concurrently at one point.

In fact, it’s actually been longer since the start of the Ace Combat Zero LP to the time of this post than it was between the releases of Zero and 6.

Do you feel old now?






Tracks featured in Mission 9:

DISC 2




I am the Tax Man now.

    Psycho Landlord – 19
    Jobbo_Fett – 17
    Shinjobi – 15
    Lazy Bear – 10
    Akujiki – 6
    Sword Hunter Gil – 6
    Kal-L – 4
    Tythas – 4
    Materant – 4
    Back Hack – 3
    KDavisJr – 3
    GhostStalker – 3
    Paingod556 – 3
    HereticMIND – 3
    Minrad – 3
    EagerSleeper – 3
    LEGO Genetics – 3
    Pythonicus – 3
    painedforever – 3
    Blind Sally – 2
    Strayed – 2
    LostCosmonaut – 2
    Captain Hygiene – 2
    Triggerhappypilot – 2
    TyrantSabre – 2
    nine-gear crow – 2
    Calax – 2
    buglord – 2
    Roobanguy – 2
    Thefluffy – 2
    AirborneNinja – 2
    Dreamsicle – 2
    Atomikus – 1
    Son Ryo – 1
    Rorahusky – 1
    NHO – 1
    XavierGenisi – 1
    IronSaber – 1
    OddHaberdasher – 1
    NobleSixFour – 1
    Phy – 1
    OutofSight – 1
    Icedude – 1
    MrLonghair – 1
    KnoxZone – 1
    Mraagvpeine – 1
    Argas – 1
    Herr Tog – 1
    loving love Fiona Apple – 1
    Condoleezza Nice! – 1
    PBJ – 1
    Nostalgia4Infinity – 1
    Tunicate – 1

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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

I like that the game is so incredibly boring that the main activity in the thread is getting probated.

PBJ
Oct 10, 2012

Grimey Drawer
The Aigaion's reliance on liquid fuel always seemed like such a weird oversight. I mean, it's an airship the size of a small airbase, even an A4W reactor or two would have enough output to keep it aloft for months.


Genesis 28:12
He had a dream, and behold, a ladder was set on the earth with its top reaching to heaven; and behold, the angels of God were dancing upon it.

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Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Pretty sure seeing a video of the Aigaion being taken out by rocket pods was the reason I pretty much did the same for the one boss fight in HAWX.
With pretty much the same result.

VhenRa
Aug 1, 2016
I swear I remember when you splash those Strigons in like the 4th mission... they say something about they are ejecting. Explaining where the rest of the squadron keeps coming back.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
I've given the superweapons of the series a lot of poo poo over the course of these LPs, but this one, I genuinely like the mission to destroy. Still feels like it could have had more meat on it, but this one was good.

NobleSixFour
Jul 12, 2016
Crow, where on Earth did you get the idea that the Su-33 is not normally a carrier-based aircraft?

ETA:

Cooked Auto posted:

Pretty sure seeing a video of the Aigaion being taken out by rocket pods was the reason I pretty much did the same for the one boss fight in HAWX.
With pretty much the same result.

My first time through I tried using FAEBs since that was what the internet said I should do. gently caress me but that was hard to line up properly without crashing into poo poo. Also I'll forever wonder what it would have felt like not knowing that AtG weapons would work on it the first time through and having to grind away at it with XMA4s

NobleSixFour fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Sep 15, 2017

Pythonicus
Apr 1, 2011

I just wanted to say...
I love you.
Power and internet finally just came back on, so I guess it's time to do another number with those holier-than-thou pricks.

I love the fact that these monstrous planes sky whales are big enough to where you can reliably kill them with rocket salvos. Belka :allears:

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Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

NobleSixFour posted:

Also I'll forever wonder what it would have felt like not knowing that AtG weapons would work on it the first time through and having to grind away at it with XMA4s
You launch a few missiles and then take out the remaining engines in each bank with your guns. It only takes a few bullets for each one so you can just strafe along the line. It's not bad.

Thefluffy
Sep 7, 2014
funny you make a moby dick reference given how they beat you to death with it in infinity's verson of this mission. also you would think the thing would be purely powered by unshielded nuke reactors because belka is like 50's america but with :moreevil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear-powered_aircraft

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

Transform and waaauuuugh out!
Eat poo poo Feniks. Go dance with the rest of your Evil !Nazi Angel pals.

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Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
Jeez, I gotta catch up to Jobbo.

Go dance with the angels!

Also, man, gently caress Strigon team, and the Gyges.

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Lazy Bear posted:

Jeez, I gotta catch up to Jobbo.

Go dance with the angels!

Go dance with the angels, too, pal! :argh:

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Go dance with the angels, too, pal! :argh:

But I'm too cheap to pay for an avatar! :argh:

WampaPartyEX
Jan 13, 2012
Holy poo poo.

I kind of love the Aigaion. I wasn't sure what to expect when it showed up in the first mission; compared to Zero, which held Hresvelgr close to its chest and Morgan even closer, or 5, which had a dozen superweapons and all of them kind of insane, the Aigaion seemed kind of lackluster. Okay, the same gimmick as the submarines, but it flies? Cool.

And now that I see it - now that I see it IN ACTION, dancing with the angels, I love it. It's massive. It's stupid. It's big and bold in a way that screams ABSURD to me in a way that the Hresvelgr really didn't and the submarines absolutely never did. Hresvelgr was a really big bomber; the submarines were really big missile submarines. The Arkbird and the SOLG were absurd but in a science-fiction nonsense way, a flying laser space glider and a sattelite cannon.

This? This is Excalibur, a laser with a giant sprawling base full of rail-mounted heavy cannons and missile launchers and all kinds of other bullshit. This is the Helicarrier, HYDRA-style, sold to Yugoslavia Greece to start a war with Canada Rome. This is stupid on a beautiful, insane level, an in-your-face level that lacks any kind of subtlety in the same way that the narrative lacks any kind of subtlety, except instead of being dull and poorly-written it's exploding with character and also missiles. It's almost a knowing nod to the story; it's certainly the most over-the-top superweapon the player gets to see, because the Arkbird sure the hell didn't need a mid-air fuel depot and have room for a huge squad of aces and helicopters and...god. drat.

Feniks showing up is a topper on the cake. The Belkan War never ends; it just goes into remission while its aces dance with the angels some more.

WampaPartyEX fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Sep 15, 2017

Paingod556
Nov 8, 2011

Not a problem, sir

NobleSixFour posted:

Crow, where on Earth did you get the idea that the Su-33 is not normally a carrier-based aircraft?

The implies Russia has carriers worth a drat :colbert:

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Lazy Bear posted:

But I'm too cheap to pay for an avatar! :argh:

Its only $5 to Dance with anyone in the club, Angels included.

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Thefluffy
Sep 7, 2014
Posting these to show there is no end to the madness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rYGFTVXDSE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrl-oGZwWaI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juE-f3Z8RlE *spoiler warning* as youtube has no qualms about recommending videos of endgame ace combat 6 missions. :argh:

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
The fattest angel to ever take to the skies danced its last today. Respect.

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Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

Night10194 posted:

I like that the game is so incredibly boring that the main activity in the thread is getting probated.

Honestly I'd say the angel tax had the opposite intended effect :v:

Thefluffy
Sep 7, 2014
now we all take bets on when they go the final step and have you fight an entire armada of Aigaions.

NHO
Jun 25, 2013

Fun fact: Feniks is (at least) transliteration from Russian "Феникс". And other slavic languages got the same or same-ish word. With same meaning.
Meaning?

Phoenix.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Its only $5 to Dance with anyone in the club, Angels included.

Yeah, but where's the fun in that? If I dance well enough, I dance for free!

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!

Minrad posted:

Honestly I'd say the angel tax had the opposite intended effect :v:

And it wears me out... it wears me out...

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
So if crow's secret evil plot was to get the mods to fight each other after his instigation of the tax, so that he could rise and become a mod himself, does that make crow ... Belka???

or just emperor palpatine? Cos Palpatine, maybe, if I'm remembering that SotE reference right.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
The only thing wrong with Crow's new avatar is that it doesn't have an Idolmaster skin.

HereticMIND
Nov 4, 2012

Can't wait to see/hear the best goddamn song in this game. Far as I am aware, it's the next mission!

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

Never felt at home in reality
Always hiding behind avatars


In the Ace of Aces version of this mission You have to fight a huge naval fleet as well including aircraft carriers and special named Aces : Mobius 1,Gryphus, Blaze (Razgriz 1), Cipher (Galm 1), Yellow 13 , Jean-louis, and Ilya Pasternak Spoiler Video for Ace of Aces mission https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efc3RKXJSGM

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Yeah, Airwhale 2: The Dancening here is my other favorite mission in this game. It's super fun, the Gyges are hilarious bastards, and flying through the Aigaion's hangar during one of your attack runs is the sign of a true ace/angel. It's a good mission.

Also I think I have more friendly fire kills on Shamrock from this mission than every other one combined, because it starts out as a pretty tight furball and he's a stupid gently caress.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
Go dance with the complimentary sixer

Enjoying the LP

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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

M_Gargantua posted:

Go dance with the complimentary sixer

Enjoying the LP

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Thank you. I've been doing this for years now, but it still always makes me smile when someone says that. Sorry for the probation.

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Man even with the CrowRS I'm still dancing away with angelic murder in this thread :v:

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Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


nine-gear crow posted:

Thank you. I've been doing this for years now, but it still always makes me smile when someone says that. Sorry for the probation.
Yeah, this LP series is one of the very best.

Dammit, he who has a clear rap sheet has never lived.

Go dance with the angels!

There, I said it!

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Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

Never felt at home in reality
Always hiding behind avatars


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The Cypher and Pixy DLC skins were the best thing in this game other than the F-14 Zipang and Idolm@ster skins

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Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

I'm not going to lie: the moment I fought the Aigaion I realized that the Ace Combat series was something I wanted more of.

For now (we'll see if 7 can top it) this is bar none the best superweapon fight in the entire series, and I refuse to believe otherwise :colbert:

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

It really is, despite being more conventional (lol) than a lot of AC superweapons. Feels more like a bullet hell boss than a just an HP block with an instant death zone like most of the other bossfight style superweapons.

Lazy Bear
Feb 1, 2013

Never too lazy to dance with the angels
Any mod that probates me for this post can go dance with the angels!

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Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Psycho Landlord posted:

It really is, despite being more conventional (lol) than a lot of AC superweapons. Feels more like a bullet hell boss than a just an HP block with an instant death zone like most of the other bossfight style superweapons.

I think I can break down what makes it so good into a few good points:
-Great Design: Face it, the Aigaion just looks cool, with a design reminiscent of a B2 stealth bomber but with a shiny chrome instead. Relatively simple, but memorable given its size.
-Multiple Threats: You're not only fighting the Aigaion, but the Kottos and Gyges support craft and the Strigons. It makes the battlefield feel incredibly hectic and really gives you the sense that you're going against the odds.
-Good Difficulty: The aforementioned threats are just enough to be challenging, but not enough to be impossible. Not to mention that the Aigaion whipping out its Nimbus missiles keeps it a threat even after it's lost most of its weapons.
-A Feeling of Progress: Because you're knocking out the Aigaion's guns and engines with the rest of the enemies on the field, every gain whether it be a plane shot down or a turret destroyed feels massive, and not like you're just whittling down a health bar.
-It's Just Pure Ace Combat: You've got a shitton of missiles, a superweapon in front of you, and an ace squadron guarding it. No bullshit about protecting allies or anything, it's you and your guys vs. them in a massive slugging match. And isn't what you really want?

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